Author Topic: "Legitimate Rape" - new republican ethical position??????? (Read 2761 times)

hillbill · « **Reply #30 on:** August 21, 2012, 02:26:19 PM »

Akin has come across as a buffoon and im not happy with him.however he was standing against the killing of unborn babies, regardless of their heritage. a rape baby is still a human life.where i stand on this im not really sure. however, the opposition is running on the platform of "any unwanted baby should be killed".so which do youall agree with more?

i will tell yu this, ill vote for a buffoon over Claire any day.she is obamas court jester.

lakota · « **Reply #31 on:** August 21, 2012, 02:47:10 PM »

It was a dumb comment but the fact of the matter is that if it had been a democrat that said something stupid like this it would recieve little to no media attention, and any attention it would recieve from the media would be in defense of a misspoken sentence.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 21, 2012, 03:15:32 PM »

Is obama an advocate for this concept of "legitimate rape"?

hillbill · « **Reply #33 on:** August 21, 2012, 04:04:52 PM »

Quote from: Cabin4 on August 21, 2012, 03:15:32 PM

Is obama an advocate for this concept of "legitimate rape"?

i dont think obama or any other political figure would condone any kind of rape. however we do have a prominent dem figure who has been accused of it and other things and he is highly revered by the dems. i think he will be speaking at the dem nat convention.if they can afford him that is.

crustylicious · « **Reply #34 on:** August 21, 2012, 05:20:33 PM »

Quote from: powderman on August 21, 2012, 07:54:32 AM

guzzi. For you to have to ask proves to me that liberals do indeed see things backwards. He meant that if the rape was indeed rape and not a guilty conscience the next day. POWDERMAN.

Is Romney backwards or a liberal?

Romney calls on Akin to drop out of Senate race
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57497634-503544/romney-calls-on-akin-to-drop-out-of-senate-race/

Cabin4 · « **Reply #35 on:** August 21, 2012, 06:14:10 PM »

Quote from: crustylicious on August 21, 2012, 05:20:33 PM

Quote from: powderman on August 21, 2012, 07:54:32 AM
guzzi. For you to have to ask proves to me that liberals do indeed see things backwards. He meant that if the rape was indeed rape and not a guilty conscience the next day. POWDERMAN.

Is Romney backwards or a liberal?

Romney calls on Akin to drop out of Senate race
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57497634-503544/romney-calls-on-akin-to-drop-out-of-senate-race/

obama is apparently an advocate for "legitimate rape". Thats what I think is the case.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #36 on:** August 21, 2012, 08:10:47 PM »

Quote from: crustylicious on August 21, 2012, 05:20:33 PM

Quote from: powderman on August 21, 2012, 07:54:32 AM
guzzi. For you to have to ask proves to me that liberals do indeed see things backwards. He meant that if the rape was indeed rape and not a guilty conscience the next day. POWDERMAN.

Is Romney backwards or a liberal?

Romney calls on Akin to drop out of Senate race
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57497634-503544/romney-calls-on-akin-to-drop-out-of-senate-race/

Hoop te do! I called on Romney to drop out, and throw his support behind a good man running. But the fool wouldn't listen

We need to pass some mind your own business laws for folks running for Mob Bosses! Got an idea for one......Make it against the law for a candidate to say anything good about themselves, and only good things about the opponent.

That would be a hoot to watch BTW! I see where Akin told him and Obama to buzz off!

magooch · « **Reply #37 on:** August 22, 2012, 04:42:16 AM »

Yes indeed, William Jefferson Clinton proved that there is legitimate rape. And he also proved you can get away with it if you're a Dumycrat. The Missouri Congressman should have known that only Dumycrats can misspeak without being castigated and told to get lost.

Maybe this Akins guy isn't the best chance for the Republicans to capture that Senate seat, but I have to wonder if Mitt Romney plans to drop out if he happens to make a little booboo as he has suggested for Akins. If this were the standard for all politicians, we'd have to give up on elections to hire our lawmakers and leaders.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #38 on:** August 22, 2012, 05:14:55 AM »

Yes, Clinton and the democrats are advocates for "Legitimate Attempted Rape". When Bill Clinton assualted that women in the hotel room, the democrate were just fine with that.

I beleive obama is a supporter of the legitimate rape concept as well.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #39 on:** August 22, 2012, 06:01:11 AM »

Quote from Mcgooch:
"Maybe this Akins guy isn't the best chance for the Republicans to capture that Senate seat, but I have to wonder if Mitt Romney plans to drop out if he happens to make a little booboo as he has suggested for Akins. If this were the standard for all politicians, we'd have to give up on elections to hire our lawmakers and leaders."

It is way more than a little booboo, it is the mind set to even say what he said that is the problem.
GuzziJohn

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #40 on:** August 22, 2012, 06:04:51 AM »

Rape be rape . why is it there now has to be a word added to decribe someone or something. I think it started with "NEW COKE"

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #41 on:** August 22, 2012, 06:43:10 AM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on August 22, 2012, 06:01:11 AM

It is way more than a little booboo, it is the mind set to even say what he said that is the problem.
GuzziJohn

What mindset is this? Yeah, he stepped in it - but his real sin, from perspective of critics, is that he's not pro-choice. That the whole deal.

And again... abortion rights advocates squawking that 'rape, incest, and life of the mother!' slogan is nothing but distraction from fact that vast majority of abortions are for birth control, and it's mean to shuttup pro-lifers.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #42 on:** August 22, 2012, 07:08:27 AM »

"A WOMANS CHOICE"
I agree she should have a choice ! I will defend her right to choose. I just think and support the concept that choice should be made before intercourse , before a new human life is involved . In many cases it is little more that a spoiled brat wanting to dance with out paying the band .

Cabin4 · « **Reply #43 on:** August 22, 2012, 07:57:10 AM »

As much as I hate abortion, I really dont care what some woman does. She can answer for her actions now and in her after life. Its no reflection on me what some woman does, that I dont even know. I'm not involved in her actions or the actions her doctor took.

lakota · « **Reply #44 on:** August 22, 2012, 08:07:08 AM »

Quote from: Cabin4 on August 22, 2012, 07:57:10 AM

As much as I hate abortion, I really dont care what some woman does. She can answer for her actions now and in her after life. Its no reflection on me what some woman does, that I dont even know. I'm not involved in her actions or the actions her doctor took.

Good post. This is how I feel as well. It's not my place to tell others what to do. What they do is between them and whatever supreme being they believe in.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #45 on:** August 22, 2012, 08:17:38 AM »

Quote from: lakota on August 22, 2012, 08:07:08 AM

Quote from: Cabin4 on August 22, 2012, 07:57:10 AM
As much as I hate abortion, I really dont care what some woman does. She can answer for her actions now and in her after life. Its no reflection on me what some woman does, that I dont even know. I'm not involved in her actions or the actions her doctor took.

Good post. This is how I feel as well. It's not my place to tell others what to do. What they do is between them and whatever supreme being they believe in.

unless of course you pay for it one way or another

Cabin4 · « **Reply #46 on:** August 22, 2012, 08:32:05 AM »

I agree that if I directly paid for an abortion, that would be wrong. I don't pay directly for any abortion. Now, if the criminals that run our government want to take my tax dollars to pay for abortions, that blood is on their hands, not my hands.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #47 on:** August 22, 2012, 08:35:15 AM »

Quote from: Cabin4 on August 22, 2012, 08:32:05 AM

I agree that if I directly paid for an abortion, that would be wrong. I don't pay directly for any abortion. Now, if the criminals that run our government want to take my tax dollars to pay for abortions, that blood is on their hands, not my hands.

No but the money is still out of your and my pocket.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #48 on:** August 22, 2012, 09:17:15 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on August 22, 2012, 08:35:15 AM

Quote from: Cabin4 on August 22, 2012, 08:32:05 AM
I agree that if I directly paid for an abortion, that would be wrong. I don't pay directly for any abortion. Now, if the criminals that run our government want to take my tax dollars to pay for abortions, that blood is on their hands, not my hands.

No but the money is still out of your and my pocket.

And there is nothing we can do about it now. The government does not ask me if its okay to pay for specific items. It simply compells me to give my money under threat of jail time and they do their dirty deeds with it.

I'm not interested in being an antiabortion martar. All I can do is vote. After that, those in power can answer for thier sins. Has nothing to do with me.

Needles · « **Reply #49 on:** August 22, 2012, 12:44:09 PM »

With all the finger pointing at the media, I have to point out that Fox is studiously avoiding reporting on Akin. But they aren't biased.

Oh, they DID do a report on Akin refusing to step down. "If a man does the wrong thing and makes no effort to correct that wrong, he has truly done wrong." Confuscious

lakota · « **Reply #50 on:** August 22, 2012, 12:52:04 PM »

Do you really want to point your finger at Fox News for being biased? Take a look at NBC, ABC, CBS CNN and NPR. Yeah no bias at any of those news outlets.

Needles · « **Reply #51 on:** August 22, 2012, 01:05:08 PM »

Quote from: lakota on August 22, 2012, 12:52:04 PM

Do you really want to point your finger at Fox News for being biased? Take a look at NBC, ABC, CBS CNN and NPR. Yeah no bias at any of those news outlets.

The point is you can't depend on ANY of them.

lakota · « **Reply #52 on:** August 22, 2012, 02:15:40 PM »

I'll agree with you there

Cabin4 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 22, 2012, 02:25:57 PM »

Quote from: Needles on August 22, 2012, 12:44:09 PM

With all the finger pointing at the media, I have to point out that Fox is studiously avoiding reporting on Akin. But they aren't biased. Oh, they DID do a report on Akin refusing to step down. "If a man does the wrong thing and makes no effort to correct that wrong, he has truly done wrong." Confuscious

You obviously are not watching Fox. Its all I hear about every time I flip the channel there. What is a fact, is MSNB, CBS, ABC and the rest of the Obama affiliate stations are over reporting on this and avoiding the real jobs and economic issues.

P.A. Myers · « **Reply #54 on:** August 22, 2012, 07:09:07 PM »

Should the concept of 'legitimate murder' play into this?

P.A.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #55 on:** August 23, 2012, 01:29:57 AM »

Quote from: P.A. Myers on August 22, 2012, 07:09:07 PM

Should the concept of 'legitimate murder' play into this?

P.A.

yea it's called self defense shooting

Maybe legit rape would be when the husban wants to but the wife don't

magooch · « **Reply #56 on:** August 23, 2012, 04:12:22 AM »

I really don't see what the problem is with the term "legitimate rape." Of course there is both legitimate rape and accusation of rape. Not all accusations of rape are true and not all rapes under the law are the same. Rape can be consensual but statutory and it can be and often is a lie. So Aiken didn't make the big faux pas that is being bantered about.

His point was that the female body can when highly stressed, fail to ovulate and thus become pregnant from a rape, where otherwise she might indeed become pregnant. Whether, or not that is an iron clad fact is not the point; it is what Aiken had been led to believe. His blunder was saying anything at all that the media could turn into a big deal. And I'll guarantee you that it just wouldn't matter what he said, the lame stream media is going to do anything they can to try to get Mcaskill reelected. They know full well how critical her Senate seat is and how unpopular she is in Missouri.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #57 on:** August 23, 2012, 04:32:55 AM »

I think the concept of "legitimate" anything can come to play here. How about the concept of "Legitimate President"?

Seems to me thats the real issue here.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #58 on:** August 23, 2012, 07:34:12 AM »

Quote from: Cabin4 on August 23, 2012, 04:32:55 AM

I think the concept of "legitimate" anything can come to play here. How about the concept of "Legitimate President"?

Seems to me thats the real issue here.

now that is a good one !

Needles · « **Reply #59 on:** August 23, 2012, 02:42:11 PM »

It would be ironic if Akin's wife or daughter got raped and got pregnant, now you gotta admit. $:-\$