Cleaning question

[ronbow]

On all of my firearms (pistols, revolvers, center fire rifles and black powder) when cleaning, I first run patches with powder solvent to get out most  of the carbon then run brass brush followed by patches until patches come clean. However if I run the brass brush again, followed by patches. the patches are dirty. No matter how many times I repeat this cycle the patches are dirty following the brass brush. I even wash the brush with solvent. What gives? It's driving me nuts.

[gunnut69]

If you are using a jacket metal remover cleaning solution the stain may be the solvent destroying the brass brush.. or the brass jag. In a recent magazine article the author addressed the problem but using an undersized plastic bristle brush with the patch wrapped around it. This lets the bristles keep the patch in contact woth the entire bore surface without a lot of pressure which can bend the rod and damage the bores surface. At the same time theres no brass or copper for the bore cleaning solution to erode. You should also realise that fouling is laid down in layers of jacket metal and powder fouling and these usually have to come out in layers too.. even the electro-chemical cleaning systems require stopping and swabbing with powder solvent occassionaly... Good luck!

[ronbow]

So Hoppes #9 is the problem with a brass brush ?

[SHOOTALL]

What is the problem ?
It seems you are getting your gun cleaner each time . Dry patches often will come out clean when the fouling is tight to the metal that's what chemicals that losen it like Hopps #9 are for . Lap your bbl and it will clean easier and faster if it is important. You would be removing imperfections in the surface of the bore where fouling can build up in easy. Or just realize that a little fouling is not a bad thing , remember many rifles require a few fouling shots to shoot well. With good modern quality ammo you don't need to clean as much as was nessary in the past.

[gunnut69]

Hoppes No.9 is not a metal fouling removal chemical.. Try Sweets7.62..

[JustaShooter]

Hoppes No.9 is not a metal fouling removal chemical.. 

Although it is not very aggressive, Hoppes No.9 does remove copper fouling - at least the current formulation does, I don't know about the older / original formula.  Just got done cleaning a few rifles using Hoppes No.9, and have a nice pile of greenish blue patches to show for it...

Just a Shooter