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State Department: 'Hold down the fort,' other common phrases could be offensive  Published August 30, 2012
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  •    Shown here is State Department chief diversity officer John Robinson. (AP/State Department)
  Watch your mouth -- everyday phrases like "hold down the fort" and "rule of thumb" are potentially offensive bombshells.
At least according to the State Department.
Chief Diversity Officer John Robinson penned a column in the department's latest edition of "State Magazine" advising readers on some rather obscure Ps and Qs.
 
Robinson ticked off several common phrases and went on to explain why their roots are racially or culturally insensitive. The result was a list of no-nos that could easily result in some tongue-tied U.S. diplomats, particularly in an administration that swaps "war on terror" for "overseas contingency operation" and once shied away from using the word "terrorism."
For instance, Robinson warned, "hold down the fort" is a potentially insulting reference to American Indian stereotypes.
 
"How many times have you or a colleague asked if someone could 'hold down the fort?'" he wrote. "You were likely asking someone to watch the office while you go and do something else, but the phrase's historical connotation to some is negative and racially offensive."
He explained: "To 'hold down the fort' originally meant to watch and protect against the vicious Native American intruders. In the territories of the West, Army soldiers or settlers saw the 'fort' as their refuge from their perceived 'enemy,' the stereotypical 'savage' Native American tribes."
 
He singled out another phrase, "Going Dutch," as a "negative stereotype portraying the Dutch as cheap."
And "rule of thumb," he wrote, can according to women's activists refer "to an antiquated law, whereby the width of a husband's thumb was the legal size of a switch or rod allowed to beat his wife."
 
Further, he explained, "If her bruises were not larger than the width of his thumb, the husband could not be brought to court to answer for his behavior because he had not violated the 'rule of thumb.'"
 
He went on to urge caution over the word "handicap," as some disability advocates "believe this term is rooted in a correlation between a disabled individual and a beggar, who had to beg with a cap in his or her hand because of the inability to maintain employment."
What to make of all this?
 
Robinson cited the cautionary tale of Nike rolling out a "Black and Tan" sneaker without realizing the phrase once referred to a group "that committed atrocities against Irish civilians." Nike later apologized.
 
"Choose your words thoughtfully," Robinson wrote. "Now that you know the possible historical context of the above phrases, perhaps you will understand why someone could be offended by their use. Let us agree that language will continue to evolve with continually improving consciousness and respect for others."
 
Robinson also serves as the director of the Office of Civil Rights and an adviser to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on diversity issues. He earlier worked as chief diversity officer with the IRS.

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BOHICA! It's death by booga booga again. But any scholar of etymology such as yourself will have no trouble so long as you use the well worn language of the mariners. So if its cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey, justsay so realizing that the history if the phrase is both polite and practical. It also is without racial or gender overtones.

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So what will we call SCOTCH TAPE  now as it was to be a CHEAP type of tape .
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I am so sick of the whimpifying of our language and our people. Words and phrases that have been in our language for decades and decades are being pushed out of the system because of people that easily get their feelings hurt.  I refuse- absolutely refuse to call a black person that was born in the US an African American.  He is Black or American.  I will refuse to not use the phrase "Hold the fort down".  Been saying it all my life and I'm not about to stop.  I also call everyone "Cheif"  Guess that's against the poor indians. Whatever.  I dont mean it that way. 
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So when will the word cracker come under fire ? I get offended everytime I go in a food store or walk by a vending machine  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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The libbtards can plant a big wet one on my lilly white bottom and shove all this political correctness up theirs.
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Absolutely ridiculous.

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We don't need no stinking language police.  But we do need something to kill this stinking little "One Question Site Survey" thingy.
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Just got thru reading that story. And, the part that really ticked me off, he works for the Fed's. Which means, he got paid for coming up with this BS. Why doesn't he do something useful, like go fill in a pothole,bild a higher dike around Lousiana or something. Another waste of tax dollars. gypsyman
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Re: Saying, hold down the fort could be offensive, more libbydem garbage.
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2012, 03:56:46 AM »
  Libtards prove it more and more everyday....YOU JUST CAN'T FIX STUPID!!
 
They use terms such as "war on women", angry white guy, rich old white men, Bible-thumpers, cling to their guns, cling to their bibles, ...on and on etc, etc..    But I guess that's OK..
   Personally, I don't care what adjectives they use...so long as they don't care about what adjectives I use..  To each his own!
   Anybody with the least bit of intelligence has recognized "political correctness" as simply "liberal censorship"..  :P
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Re: Saying, hold down the fort could be offensive, more libbydem garbage.
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2012, 04:00:35 AM »
Shootall:
 
Consider that your new mission in life! Stamping out this rampant anti-Cracker name calling needs a non-profit organization, and you're just the man to lead it. The problem may be unification because there are Florida Crackers, Georgia Crackers, and then the ethnic anti-white slur cracker. You need to keep it clear that there is more than one kind of cracker and that they are all offended.

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Re: Saying, hold down the fort could be offensive, more libbydem garbage.
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2012, 04:06:11 AM »
Shootall:
 
Consider that your new mission in life! Stamping out this rampant anti-Cracker name calling needs a non-profit organization, and you're just the man to lead it. The problem may be unification because there are Florida Crackers, Georgia Crackers, and then the ethnic anti-white slur cracker. You need to keep it clear that there is more than one kind of cracker and that they are all offended.

Naw its not for me . I see all this PC wording as foolish . That was why I posted to show the silly way it looks. When I came along not letting them know they bothered you  was the norm now its people looking to be offended .
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Re: Saying, hold down the fort could be offensive, more libbydem garbage.
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2012, 11:05:49 AM »

Naw its not for me . I see all this PC wording as foolish . That was why I posted to show the silly way it looks. When I came along not letting them know they bothered you  was the norm now its people looking to be offended .

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Re: Saying, hold down the fort could be offensive, more libbydem garbage.
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2012, 02:18:30 PM »
I look at it this way: I'm from the southwest, basically hick country where one is regarded by a lot of the elite part of this country as hardly being smart enough to walk and chew gum at the same time. Well, if you don't like the way I express myself you can back off about 200 yards to get a good running start to jump up and kiss my a---uh, hind end. Is that in plain enough language for anyone to understand? Same goes for other things besides the way I talk.

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Re: Saying, hold down the fort could be offensive, more libbydem garbage.
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 02:47:02 PM »
The worst part of this is that this moron is getting PAID to dream this crappola up. Bushs fault I reckon?? Just more libbdem stupidity. I wonder who his boss is?? POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: Saying, hold down the fort could be offensive, more libbydem garbage.
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2012, 02:54:15 PM »
These guys must stay awake at night to think up this BS.
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Re: Saying, hold down the fort could be offensive, more libbydem garbage.
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2012, 03:49:29 PM »
  Michelle Malkin has recently compiled a short list of words which were deemed racist "code" words by prominent liberals. These "code" words were all identified by current, lamebrain liberals..just this past summer.  Here is that list of "racist code words";
 
1) Chicago
 
2) Constitution
 
3) Golf
 
4) Food stamp president
 
5) Kitchen cabinet
 
6) Professor
 
7) You people
 
   No they don't make sense..but I guess you have to be a leftist nut case to understand. 
   
   The very term "code word" is in itself code words, meaning:

  " I have no proof of what I am accusing you of..so I'll take some of your otherwise innocous words and claim you mean something else, something very sinister with them"..
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