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Re: do we tend to "scope too much"?
« Reply #60 on: December 11, 2012, 03:51:50 AM »
I'm with Lloyd...I've often wished for a bit more magnification rather than less......
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Re: do we tend to "scope too much"?
« Reply #61 on: December 12, 2012, 10:08:25 AM »
Yes and no, the way I look at it is, I can always leave it on 3 or 4 power and if I need more I can always crank it up.
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Re: do we tend to "scope too much"?
« Reply #62 on: December 13, 2012, 06:48:18 AM »
I think not enough scope on this 44 mag?

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Re: do we tend to "scope too much"?
« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2012, 11:34:32 PM »
For CW Longshot;
        You said you have been selling and studying scopes for many years, perhaps you can clarify something for me.  I have often leaned toward fixed powers for big game scopes, figuring the kill area is about volleyball size, rather than the apple size of varmints.  I have been cautious with variables because I figured with more lenses and adjustments..it is just more to go wrong..the K.I.S.S. factor;  am I incorrect in that assumption?
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   Most of my scopes are of the 32mm objective size with only a couple @ 40mm and 44mm.  I have one 50mm..a gift.  Much of my hunting is in brushy areas and I don't like to take a 50mm into such situations for fear of bumps and snags..
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Re: do we tend to "scope too much"?
« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2012, 11:41:16 PM »
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Re: do we tend to "scope too much"?
« Reply #65 on: December 21, 2012, 02:42:44 AM »
For CW Longshot;
        You said you have been selling and studying scopes for many years, perhaps you can clarify something for me.  I have often leaned toward fixed powers for big game scopes, figuring the kill area is about volleyball size, rather than the apple size of varmints.  I have been cautious with variables because I figured with more lenses and adjustments..it is just more to go wrong..the K.I.S.S. factor; 

Good morning,

Many people lean to this assumption with optics and it stems froms he days of  variable scopes infancy. I would add when speaking of cheap scopes your assessment is likely still very true.

But today's quality scopes are very durable and reliable. A cheaper scope made today is argueably on par with a quality scope of say 25 years ago. For example, today's Simmons midline scope isometric every bit a Leupold Vari X scope. 25 years ago not many would have thought twice about mounting the Leupold VariX to there rifle.

There have been huge advancements in optical quality as well as quality of the scopes them selves. Most offer larger adjustment ranges (at the turrets) even 1/8" adjustments in less expensive scopes. Something reserved to the best varmint/Target scopes of only a few years back.

Like anything g else, buy quality and you will be happy. Burris, Nikon, Leupold are popular here but there are many others that are as good or even better if your wallet can make the strain. ;)

You jut don't hear of problems directly associated with a given scope being variable any more.

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Re: do we tend to "scope too much"?
« Reply #66 on: December 21, 2012, 03:12:58 AM »
Thanks CW...info I needed...
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Re: do we tend to "scope too much"?
« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2012, 05:59:43 AM »
I just went down in power on a muzzleloader barrel set-up for my Encore.  I rarely take shots out past 100few on deer with it.  I sight the irons in at 50the and the scope at 100.  The barrel did wear a Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9X until just recently.  I've decided that a lower powered scope would suit my needs better.  I ended up purchasing a Bushnell Elite 4200 1.25-4X that has a 30mmlower tube, German #4 reticle with illuminated center dot.

A number of years ago I built up a 338-06 on a savage action.  I debated scope power for awhile on that one because I intended it to be for larger big game out west.  I settled on a Zeiss Conquest 3-9X, mainly due to value and availability at the time.  3-9s are the most popular power range and can often be had for a reasonable price.  With that said though, they're not necessarily the ideal power range for a particular rig or hunting environment.
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Re: do we tend to "scope too much"?
« Reply #68 on: December 22, 2012, 12:12:26 AM »
well said
For CW Longshot;
        You said you have been selling and studying scopes for many years, perhaps you can clarify something for me.  I have often leaned toward fixed powers for big game scopes, figuring the kill area is about volleyball size, rather than the apple size of varmints.  I have been cautious with variables because I figured with more lenses and adjustments..it is just more to go wrong..the K.I.S.S. factor; 

Good morning,

Many people lean to this assumption with optics and it stems froms he days of  variable scopes infancy. I would add when speaking of cheap scopes your assessment is likely still very true.

But today's quality scopes are very durable and reliable. A cheaper scope made today is argueably on par with a quality scope of say 25 years ago. For example, today's Simmons midline scope isometric every bit a Leupold Vari X scope. 25 years ago not many would have thought twice about mounting the Leupold VariX to there rifle.

There have been huge advancements in optical quality as well as quality of the scopes them selves. Most offer larger adjustment ranges (at the turrets) even 1/8" adjustments in less expensive scopes. Something reserved to the best varmint/Target scopes of only a few years back.

Like anything g else, buy quality and you will be happy. Burris, Nikon, Leupold are popular here but there are many others that are as good or even better if your wallet can make the strain. ;)

You jut don't hear of problems directly associated with a given scope being variable any more.

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Re: do we tend to "scope too much"?
« Reply #69 on: December 29, 2012, 01:12:21 AM »
On a side note, I have noticed that here in PA, a lot of the guys I have talked with who used to use iron sights have gone to scopes since the implementation of minimum antler size (most of the state is 3 points on one side, some areas 4) as an aid to antler point verification.
 
Except for varmint and long range specialty rifles, most of my hunting rifles wear 1x5, 2x7, and a few 3x9 scopes, all usually set to 3x or so while hunting.
 
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