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 Egyptians angry at film scale U.S. embassy wallsBy Tamim Elyan | Reuters – 42 mins agoEnlarge Gallery      CAIRO (Reuters) - Egyptian protesters scaled the walls of the U.S. embassy on Tuesday, tore down the American flag and burned it during a protest over what they said was a film being produced in the United States that insulted Prophet Mohammad.
 
In place of the U.S. flag, the protesters tried to raise a black flag with the words "There is no God but God, and Mohammad is his messenger", a Reuters witness said.
Once the U.S. flag was hauled down, some protesters tore it up and showed off pieces to television cameras. Others burned the remains outside the fortress-like embassy building in central Cairo. But some protesters objected to the flag burning.
 
Many Muslims consider any depiction of the Prophet to be offensive.
"This movie must be banned immediately and an apology should be made," said 19-year-old Ismail Mahmoud, a member of the so-called "ultras" soccer supporters who played a big role in the uprising that brought down Hosni Mubarak last year.
 
He called on President Mohamed Mursi, Egypt's first civilian president and an Islamist, to take action, without giving details of the film that angered him or other protesters.
About 20 people stood on top of the embassy wall, while about 2,000 protesters gathered outside. The demonstrators were mainly supporters of Islamist groups or "ultras" youths.
Rafik Farouk, 38, an Egyptian Christian, also took part. "I am here because I am Egyptian and reject anything that insults Islam or anything that sparks division in Egypt," he said.
Washington has a big mission in Egypt, partly because of a huge aid programme that followed Egypt's signing of a peace treaty with Israel in 1979. The United States gives $1.3 billion to Egypt's military each year and offers the nation other aid.
U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland in Washington said the wall was breached and the flag removed.
 
"We are obviously working with Egyptian security to try to restore order at the embassy and to work with them to try to get the situation under control," she said.
Following the protest, Egypt's Foreign Ministry said it was committed to giving all embassies the necessary protection.
 
The U.S. embassy had put out a statement earlier on Tuesday condemning "misguided individuals" who hurt the religious feelings of Muslims or followers of other religions.
"We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others," the U.S. embassy said in its statement.
 
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Although it was not clear which film prompted the protests, Egypt's prestigious Al-Azhar mosque and seat of Sunni learning condemned on Tuesday a symbolic "trial" of the Prophet organized by a U.S. group including Terry Jones, a Christian pastor who triggered riots in Afghanistan in 2010 by threatening to burn the Koran.
 
According to the website www.standupamericanow.org, Jones and others were due to take part in an event on Tuesday - the anniversary of the September 11 attacks by al Qaeda on U.S. cities - called "International Judge Mohammad Day" in Florida. It was due to be carried live on the Internet.
 
Some activists had mentioned Jones in calls for a protest.
Egypt's Coptic Orthodox church also condemned in a statement some Copts living abroad who it said financed "the production of a film insulting Prophet Mohammad", a state website reported. About a 10th of Egypt's 83 million people are Christians.
 
Protests have become a common feature in Egypt since the uprising that ousted long-time U.S.-ally Mubarak. When U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton visited in July, after Mursi was sworn in, her motorcade was pelted with tomatoes.
 
Some demonstrators shouted slogans against her and some slogans were against Islamists, reflecting perceptions of some opponents of Islamists who have swept Egypt's presidency and a parliamentary vote that Washington helped Islamists to power.
In Mubarak's era, protests were usually swiftly halted by an often brutally efficient police force.
 
One slogan scrawled on the walls of the embassy, which is near Tahrir Square where Egyptians revolted against Mubarak, said: "If your freedom of speech has no limits, may you accept our freedom of action."
 
In another incident prompted by similar religious sentiments last month, a lone man attacked the German embassy with homemade nail bombs and a hammer, cracking glass at the entrance, after he read a report about a protest in Germany where demonstrators paraded caricatures of the Prophet outside a mosque.
 
No one was injured and there was no serious damage to the embassy during the incident.
(Additional reporting by Reuters Television and Reuters photographers; Writing by Edmund Blair; Editing by Alison Williams)
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'Twasn't only Obama that supported this as usual the western alliance countries had to stick their noses into itand  I recall a number of our  members here being all for "liberating" the Eqyptians
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'Twasn't only Obama that supported this as usual the western alliance countries had to stick their noses into itand  I recall a number of our  members here being all for "liberating" the Eqyptians
not me....  the last time the ME had somebody with more than half a brain, was when the Shah still ruled iran.
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  I don't know who it was here that backed the "arab spring" riots..but  obammy is still backing the "muslim brotherhood"
 
   http://www.ijreview.com/2012/09/15702-as-president-obama-praises-arab-spring-on-911-u-s-embassy-stormed-in-egypt/
 
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  I don't know who it was here that backed the "arab spring" riots..but  obammy is still backing the "muslim brotherhood"
 
   http://www.ijreview.com/2012/09/15702-as-president-obama-praises-arab-spring-on-911-u-s-embassy-stormed-in-egypt/
 
   Hey..guess ya gotta stick with the bros..




Well! If he is, he sure has a lot of Washington Jew insiders backing him.Strange! Don't ya think, that he would be all against Israel, and have so much support from the American Jews? Obama plays both sides of the card for votes, but his big campaign money comes from the Jew community.



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These qre just cursery raids looking for weak spots.  The real raids are yet to come.  If our resident Muslim does not retain the White House, I feel our embassy will be hit again, just like they did in Iran.
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The violence in Egypt was yesterday's news..  This morning, the news is that our consulate in Libya was raided by a mob..the Libyan "security forces" withdrawing to alllow the mob full access
   Our ambassador to Libya and 3 staff members murdered..  At any other time and with any other American president (with the possible exceptions of Clinton & Carter)..this would have been an act of war!
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where's Reagan when you need him. :'(
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Watched the news, and I couldn't find any info on what movie is getting these monkeys all upset. I'd go down to BlockBuster and rent it, if I knew which one. gypsyman
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 Hosni Mubarak was no better except he could be bribed into keeping the peace with Israel and Christians while getting extremely rich at the expense of his countrymen. And look at all the US Presidents that supported/bribed Mubarak for 30 years. Egypt, along with most or all of the 'Muslim' countries are a lost cause and self destructive haters of anything "western". Especially America and Christians. And the fact that the US supported the puppet/dictator, Mubarak, only makes it worse.
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Watched the news, and I couldn't find any info on what movie is getting these monkeys all upset. I'd go down to BlockBuster and rent it, if I knew which one. gypsyman
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  Gypsyman;
   Pause for a moment...it wasn't the movie, that's just an excuse..  Yesterday was the 11th anniversary of the first 9/11..
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they were not even taliban or al-qaeda, just your basic muzzie.  that proves that they're "ALL"
ignorant savages.
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Watched the news, and I couldn't find any info on what movie is getting these monkeys all upset. I'd go down to BlockBuster and rent it, if I knew which one. gypsyman
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  Gypsyman;
   Pause for a moment...it wasn't the movie, that's just an excuse..  Yesterday was the 11th anniversary of the first 9/11..

 
IG. True, we prayed, muslims continued to murder.
Hunter. You too?? How did the Jews get into this thread about muslim violence?? POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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If I understand things correctly, the U.S. embassy in a foreign nation is in theory a little piece of the U.S. and any attack on the embassy is considered an act of war.

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If I understand things correctly, the U.S. embassy in a foreign nation is in theory a little piece of the U.S. and any attack on the embassy is considered an act of war.

 
Thats always been my understanding too, osama obama has already appologized, wonder whats next?? POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Watched the news, and I couldn't find any info on what movie is getting these monkeys all upset. I'd go down to BlockBuster and rent it, if I knew which one. gypsyman
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  Gypsyman;
   Pause for a moment...it wasn't the movie, that's just an excuse..  Yesterday was the 10th anniversary of the first 9/11..

CNN just reported that an Israeli American businessman with about 100 Israeli supporters put out the film that ticked off the Libyans. And said that they think he is in hiding. Blame it on the Jews. Sounds familar. Just a coincidence that it happened on 9/11.
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Watched the news, and I couldn't find any info on what movie is getting these monkeys all upset. I'd go down to BlockBuster and rent it, if I knew which one. gypsyman
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  Gypsyman;
   Pause for a moment...it wasn't the movie, that's just an excuse..  Yesterday was the 11th anniversary of the first 9/11..

 
IG. True, we prayed, muslims continued to murder.
Hunter. You too?? How did the Jews get into this thread about muslim violence?? POWDERMAN.  :o :o

Some on here refer to the resident Criminal inChief being a Muzzie supporter! I just find it strange that so many big money people from the Jewish community had a huge part in electing Obama.That would be like supporting the enemy........Ya think ::)
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  All they have is a trailer on youtube..but it was enough for them to burn a consulate and murder some of the occupants.
  It was disrespectful, but no more so than some of the things said about our Lord & Savior  ...or His prophets.
  They claim  they committed these crimes because of such disrespect.  Using the same barometer, I suppose Christians and Jews would have a right to riot and kill if their prophets were insulted..
      Prophets such as Hosea, Jeremiah, Ezekiel or Daniel ought to be worth a riot apiece anyway..then if they get into Isaiah or Elijah..that ought to be wort a riot..and maybe a partial beheading.. ;) :D :P
   Here's the trailer they saw...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntgzoE7rU9A
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What's going on over there is what Pat Buchanan meant when he said we will be paying for the next one hundred years for the biggest foreign policy blonder in the history of the United States that Bushy boy caused.

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What's going on over there is what Pat Buchanan meant when he said we will be paying for the next one hundred years for the biggest foreign policy blonder in the history of the United States that Bushy boy caused.

Bush was President for 8 months before Radical Islamists kicked off an all out war against us, by flying 767 airliners into the Twin Towers. Care to tell me what Bush did in 8 months to make us "pay for the next hundred years"?
 
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What's going on over there is what Pat Buchanan meant when he said we will be paying for the next one hundred years for the biggest foreign policy blonder in the history of the United States that Bushy boy caused.
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   Yeah..Muzzie-nut;
         "It's Bush's fault"!  He went after the bases the terrorists are trained at, and those he didn't get killed are in Club Gitmo..
 
  Guess he should have done as Clinton did..sit through;
 1)  The first bombing of the World Trade Center.
 
 2)  The bombing of the Khobar Towers in 1996
 
 3)  The bombing of the embassy in Nairobi, Kenya in 1998
 
 4)  The bombing of our embassy in Tanzania in 1998
 
 5)  The bomb attack against the USS Cole in 2000
 
    So Bush should have allowed these and other attacks to take place unopposed...and just sit at his desk in the oval office...
 
     Maybe when Slik moved out, he could have left Monica in place...under the desk.  Just to distract "Bushy" don't you know...   ;)   ;D   ;D   ;D

Gotta hand it to Clinton though, he did his best NOT to tick off the Muslims by letting Bin Laden slide after those events you mentioned. He had 4 opportunities to get him and didn't even try. But!...Then again, maybe he did ruffle some Muslim feathers when he blew up that asprin factory in Sudan thinking it was a Bin Laden bomb factory.
 
Good read from an insider on the matter of Clinton and Bin Laden, posted in 2001;
 
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year. (2000)

I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.
 
Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history.


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IRONGLOW. You mean THATS what they are mad about?? Crybabies indeed. That was out in July from what I've read elsewhere and they are just now finding out about it?? Yeah right. Just another way to slam Americans about their victory on 9-11-01. They kill and murder because they enjoy it. This was all planned for Sept 11 to rub salt in our wounds. And to think that the libbys let them build a monument to their victory at ground zero. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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What dem presidents and Bush Jr, did not understand is, the devil in charge you know, the one who takes his place you don't know.  So, in foreign affairs, it is best to leave whoever is in charge in charge.  Reagan and Bush Sr, knew this.  The Shaw of Iran went down.  Mubarak went down, and the dictator in Lybia, can't think of his name now, went down.  All replaced by probably worse devils.  Same with any foreign dictator.  Removal keeps our troops there if we send troops, at least 10 years.  Look at Iraq.  It would have been better to just keep bombing Hussen and keep him pinned down than have committed American troops on the ground. Bush made his mistake going into Iraq.  Kept us there for 10 years and spent too much money.  Keeping no fly zones, and bombing his facilities when needed was far cheaper. 

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That attack on the ambassador was a hit by professionals using the riots as a diversion. I won't speculate here who these professionals might belong to.
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Obama "condemned these actions in the harshest terms". Bet that'll learn 'em!!   LOL!!

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Obama "condemned these actions in the harshest terms". Bet that'll learn 'em!!   LOL!!

 
AND appologized for a movie that we had nothing to do with. POWDERMAN.  :o :o >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

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Jews have traditionally supported democrats because of their social issues not because of Obama.  Obama was raised by a Muslim father, so if he isn't Muslim, he is a Muslim sympathiser.  A lot of Jews are not going to vote for Obama this time. 
 
Muslims have only two goals in the world, either everyone convert to Islam, or be ruled by an Islamic government with Islamic law.  The sooner Americans realise this, the better.  It is NOT a peaceful religion.  Hinduism and Buddism are peaceful.  Big difference.  Where are all the wars in the world?  Afganistan, Pakistan-India conflict, Sudan and South Sudan (Christian).  Anywhere Muslims come in contact with other people in Africa, Kenya, Tanzania, Nigeria, Ethopia, Somalia, Uganda, Kosovo, Bosnia, Albania, Iran, rebels in the Phillipeans.  Problems in Indonesia.  Everywhere they come in contact with anyone else. 
 
20 out or the last 22 wars in the world have involved Muslims or a Muslim nation against someone else. 
 
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  He admits in his book..  "DREAMS FROM MY FATHER", that he took his philosophy and agenda from his father, a Muslim, anti-western, radical.
  I am told the book originally was "DREAMS OF MY FATHER"  but he later intentionally changed it..
 
 
   BTW:  Where are our usual Islamopologists at this time?
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SB what I and Pat Buchanan was referring to was the second Iraq war. Sure we had problems with most Muslump countries but to start a war and destroy a country not to mention lives on both sides for a country that had nothing to do with 911 was crazy and like throwing a rock into a calm hornets nest :o . And I remember every time Clinton wanted to take out a muslump terrorist he got accused of wanting to start a war from the right to cover up some scandal made up or real.

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SB what I and Pat Buchanan was referring to was the second Iraq war. Sure we had problems with most Muslump countries but to start a war and destroy a country not to mention lives on both sides for a country that had nothing to do with 911 was crazy and like throwing a rock into a calm hornets nest :o . And I remember every time Clinton wanted to take out a muslump terrorist he got accused of wanting to start a war from the right to cover up some scandal made up or real.

You make up a really shallow excuse for Clinton to throw national security under the bus. And then completely overlook the fact that Bin Laden's people and other Muslims were killing Americans and venting their hatred on us long before Bush came along. I will not stick up for Bush on the Iraq war. I thought it was wrong and I thought it was stupid. But I will stick up for truth and history. The statement that you are 'clinging' to is narrow-minded and without merit when the light of history and truth are shined on it. Besides that, there is a reason why Buchanan can only get work on MSNBC. That is, after all, where most of the 'blame it on Bush-ers' and most delusional people live.
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