Iran.Nothing will remain of Israel if it protects itself with military action.

[powderman]

Iran commander: 'Nothing will remain' of Israel if it takes military action  Published September 16, 2012
Associated Press    TEHRAN –  The top commander in Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guard warned Sunday that "nothing will remain" of Israel if it takes military action against Tehran over its controversial nuclear program.
Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari said Iran's response to any attack will begin near the Israeli border. The Islamic Republic has close ties with militants in Gaza and Lebanon, both of which border Israel.
 
Iran has in the past made reference to the destruction of Israel but his comments at a Tehran news conference were unusually strongly worded and detailed.
He also said that Iran warned that oil shipments through the strategic Strait of Hormuz will be in jeopardy if a war breaks out between Iran and the United States. Iranian officials have previously threatened to close the waterway, the route for a fifth of the world's oil, but less frequently in recent months.
 
Gen. Jafari also told a news conference in Tehran Sunday that if it is attacked, Iran will no longer be committed to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, under whose terms U.N. inspectors visit Iranian nuclear sites. He said however that this does not mean that Iran would build a nuclear weapon.
 
The U.S and Israel have both left open the possibility of a strike on Iran if diplomacy fails to stop what it says is a push for a nuclear weapon. Tehran says its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes.
 
Gen. Jafari however said that Iran believes the United States won't attack Iran because it is very vulnerable and its military bases in the Middle East are within the range of Iran's missiles. Jafari also said Israel is very unlikely to take unilateral action.
 
Israel believes that any attack would likely unleash retaliation, in the form of Iranian missiles as well as rocket attacks by Iranian proxies Hezbollah and Hamas on its northern and southern borders.
Jafari's comments come as U.S.-led naval forces from the West and Arab allies gather for naval maneuvers in the Persian Gulf that include mine-sweeping exercises.

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[magooch]

So if Israel takes preemptive action, they will be attacked and if they wait until Iran announces they have a nuclear weapon, they will be attacked. 

[BBF]

How about stopping the saber rattle and nobody starts anything, least of all countries that are not part of that area.

[powderman]

So if Israel takes preemptive action, they will be attacked and if they wait until Iran announces they have a nuclear weapon, they will be attacked.

 
MAGOOCH. YEP, thats about it. POWDERMAN. 

[BBF]

We'll see who attacks first. I'm pretty sure it won't be Iran.

[nomosendero]

We'll see who attacks first. I'm pretty sure it won't be Iran.

Should it be Iran?

[BBF]

No it should not, neither should it be attacked. These preemptive strikes have a good chance of being initiated because of false or partial Intelligence.
I fully agree that a nonnuclear ME being the powder pot is is, would make for a far less likely place in starting something that you regret very much. 

[nomosendero]

No it should not, neither should it be attacked. These preemptive strikes have a good chance of being initiated because of false or partial Intelligence.
I fully agree that a nonnuclear ME being the powder pot is is, would make for a far less likely place in starting something that you regret very much.

Well that's nice and I agree, just don't go for that Lib Utopian World view. Iran keeps saying what they will do & I suppose Israel should say they don't believe it, you gotta do it and then we will believe it. Kinda the ole deal of "if you don't bother them they won't bother you"
I would say that Istael or any Natiom has a right to protect themselves, hope they make the right decision.

[blind ear]

I will be glad when Israiel decide to pull the trigger. They know how to preform with maximum effect.
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The Isralies can also act ecconoically to stall the US and the rest of the world from much retalitory action. The Isralies can set up the ecconomic crash that is needed to get things back in equilibrium value to debt to earnings. If they strike Iran and too much negative reaction is generated by the current US government, Reps and Dems combined, the Isralies can pull the rug out from under the banking house of cards. They have a history of makeing sound investments or positioning themselves to ecape poor banking practices.
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If there is a crash and it precipitates a major war ,as true crashes usually do, the dynamics of acceptance of immigrants and foriegners will change, they always have.
 ear

[rio grande]

I will be glad when Israiel decide to pull the trigger. They know how to preform with maximum effect.
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The Isralies can also act ecconoically to stall the US and the rest of the world from much retalitory action. The Isralies can set up the ecconomic crash that is needed to get things back in equilibrium value to debt to earnings. If they strike Iran and too much negative reaction is generated by the current US government, Reps and Dems combined, the Isralies can pull the rug out from under the banking house of cards. They have a history of makeing sound investments or positioning themselves to ecape poor banking practices.
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If there is a crash and it precipitates a major war ,as true crashes usually do, the dynamics of acceptance of immigrants and foriegners will change, they always have.
 ear

Israelis to the rescue!  Not only will these 'maximum effectors' start a war,  the effects of which we will have to live with, they will also 'set up the economic crash' which will also greatly benefit us.
Therefore I say, as you do, as a certified goyim beast of burden, "I love you Israel, just hit me a little harder please".

Disgusting. How about standing up for America for once, and lets stop sending these zionist supremacists our money and let's just get out of their little 'banking house of cards".

[BUGEYE]

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[Buckskin]

Enough idle threats from both sides. Let's just get this thing going already... My recommendation would be to hit Iran before the election because if they wait and God forbid ZerObama stays in office they will be completely on their own.  If they take a wait and see attitude they will have little control over their future...

[blind ear]

Buckskin, TM7, rio grande
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We arn't going to hit Iran. Our congress is "do nothing" on both sides. Obama certainly isn't going to hit them. The only chance of a strike against Iran is Israiel. That could be the catalist for the needed follow through of an ecconomic reallignment.
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I'm not for the ecconomic control that Israiel has over us but it has been proven that the current leaders in congress plan to ride the current path until the end of time, the congress has proven this over the last 100 plus years (the banking system that we are under). If Israiel does move the resulting hardship might result in a change in attitude of US citizens. IF not we are done anyway.
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This country is way past being in the control of the citizens and it will take some major hardship and rebalanceing for the attitude of the citizens to be leaned in another dirrection.  ear

[powderman]

The only way hussein would hit iran would be rt before the election to get votes. POWDERMAN. 

[Gary G]

The US currently has three aircraft carriers over there as well as the ships that accompany them. There are 3000 marines headed that way.


Netanyahu would like to attack but 65% of the Israel's people think it is a bad idea. He also wants the help of the US.


It is my opinion that the US will try not to get involved regardless of who is elected president. The reason is that Iran is a trading partner of China. China has said that it will support Iran. China holds almost half of US debt. They could dump it on the open market and that would hurt China for a time, but would end the U.S. Debtors are slaves to their creditors.


Now accidents happen and I would advise that we stay as far away as possible. The unintended consequences could be horrific.


It is not written in cement that Iran will get a nuke or that they are currently working on one. It is my opinion that if they did, they would do just like all the other countries that have a nuke. Nothing. But it would be insurance that the U.S. would not invade them. I can see why they might desire one; that may be the only way to live in peace.


I do hope that everyone realizes that every time we go to war, the people have to pay for it all (if not directly, then with your standard of living). And that every dollar spent by the government is a dollar that cannot be spent in the private economy.

[blind ear]

The US currently has three aircraft carriers over there as well as the ships that accompany them. There are 3000 marines headed that way.


Netanyahu would like to attack but 65% of the Israel's people think it is a bad idea. He also wants the help of the US.


It is my opinion that the US will try not to get involved regardless of who is elected president. The reason is that Iran is a trading partner of China. China has said that it will support Iran. China holds almost half of US debt. They could dump it on the open market and that would hurt China for a time, but would end the U.S. Debtors are slaves to their creditors.


Now accidents happen and I would advise that we stay as far away as possible. The unintended consequences could be horrific.


It is not written in cement that Iran will get a nuke or that they are currently working on one. It is my opinion that if they did, they would do just like all the other countries that have a nuke. Nothing. But it would be insurance that the U.S. would not invade them. I can see why they might desire one; that may be the only way to live in peace.


I do hope that everyone realizes that every time we go to war, the people have to pay for it all (if not directly, then with your standard of living). And that every dollar spent by the government is a dollar that cannot be spent in the private economy.

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Chinas hold is just another part of the banking swindol along with nafta, gatt and the rest. As far as the war costing the taxpayer money what is the bailout doing not at the taxpayers request? China is part of the problem that needs to be addressed. Dumping US debt is no solution because there would be no buyers, everyone is protecting thier own bubble investment. If they are dumb enough to shoot the goose, the US just prints ship loads of money and delivers just like a commodities contract. Heres your money. ear