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Re: Cutting up large pieces of lead...
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2012, 06:09:59 AM »
Air chisel with a thin blade. Have used it to cut lead boat anchors.
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Re: Cutting up large pieces of lead...
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2012, 04:21:00 PM »
  I think I mentioned earlier that a log splitter doesn't do well at all.  Mine is a 20 ton and has a pretty gentle taper on the wedge which would be better that many splitters I've seen.  It doesn't penetrate far into a BIG chunk before quitting.  Axe does the same if the chunk is huge, though I've chopped up a LOT of lead when the mass itn't more than about a inch thick.  Trick with making an axe cut at all in lead is to sharpen it so it will sink into wood at least a couple inches with an angled whack.  If you don't have it tapered and sharpened a LOT better than anything you can buy, it isn't going to make you happy as a lead chopper.
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Re: Cutting up large pieces of lead...
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2012, 07:36:05 PM »
Win get large Pisces like that I put them in my vice and with a bucket of cool water and then melt it with the torch and let it drip into the water, then spread out and let dry.Then all's you need do is scoop up and remelt for inguts, or if you load shoot gun you could make drop shot for your shells. ::)
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Re: Cutting up large pieces of lead...
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2013, 06:20:27 AM »
hatchet and sledge hammer or 3lb hammer.  Wear goggles, had a friend who lost an eye when a chip flew off a piece of steel he was hammering on. Chip went through his eye and lodged near his ear!  If you can find someone to either hold the hatchet or work the sledge (trust is involved here  ;) ) then it goes pretty quick.
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Re: Cutting up large pieces of lead...
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2013, 06:38:50 PM »
  I've been pondering the post which reccommended melting with a torch, over a piece of steel, and letting the molten pour out as shot into water.  ---  I've melted lead many times with an acetelene torch and would warn against using one on lead because the flame is so hot that it burns lead and creats a lot of smoke, which sure isn't good for human lungs.  Use a propane fired weed burner and the flam is softer with MANY tims as many btu's.  This will  start melting a wide section of large pieces quite quickly, and pour of lead so fast it's hard to beleive.  When melting small scrap one has to stir it if blowing the flame down on it, because trash, like wheel weight clips and whatever else, will lay right where it dumped it load of lead and cover the peices below. 

  I don't recall whether I mentioned it previously, and am sure not going to read this whole string to be sure, but I cut a lot of lead on a vertical bandsaw using a wood cutting blade.  It saws smoothest on large pieces if a strip of lard is smeared on the lead in line with the intended cut.  As the saw passes through the lard it picks up enough grease so the chips don't clog and bind.  A coarse blase if best.  Fine ones will fill with lead and hang up if feed at a good cutting speed.  The blades I'm using now are three tooth per inch, on a 3/4 inch wide band.

  I happened to be cutting up some scrap lead over the last few days and when I hit some unknown laarge pieces, I sawed off a small chunk which would fit under the LBT hardness tester penetrator to check hardness.  I was making push through and rifle throat slugs so the lead had to be very close to pure or dead soft.  That trick worked very well and I learned that I had one three foot piece, about 70 pounds which is probably lino or close.  Another which has laid on the shop floor near the door for years because it was shiny and very rough,  so I didn't care to mess with its unknown character, turned out to be 11 bhn, which is quite hard for a large ingot, indicating it is at least 'bullet metal'.   
  To be sure of hardness when melting down unknown lead.  melt just a little with a propane torch, pour it into a well heated mold, and water drop it. Check the hardness after the cast and again 24 hours later.  The two readings will inform you as to what you can do with that particular chunk of lead.

  For years I've read of people using dental lead and saying it is pure lead.  When a customer sent a bullet cast of it, I did a hardness check and found it to be 11 BHN.  Grab up all of it that you can lay hands on.  That customer tells me that dentists have to pay a hazardous waste fee to get rid of it and will thank you for hauling it off without costing them.  Get all you can lay hands on, even if you have to pay for it.    I've heard of a couple dentists who know it has value!
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Re: Cutting up large pieces of lead...
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2013, 06:15:16 AM »
Here is how I do it. My pot is a 20lb. lee. I cut my lead pigs (63lbs) into manageable chunks using a sawsall and wrecking blade. I also use lubricant PB Blaster. Cuts right through. I then clean the lube off and melt the chunk with a hast furnace made of bricks and a weed burner. I can cut a chunk, melt in cast iron pot and pour into muffin pan ingots in about 10 minutes. The weed burner furnace is the cats meow.

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Re: Cutting up large pieces of lead...
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2013, 03:09:01 PM »
hatchet and sledge hammer or 3lb hammer.  Wear goggles, had a friend who lost an eye when a chip flew off a piece of steel he was hammering on. Chip went through his eye and lodged near his ear!  If you can find someone to either hold the hatchet or work the sledge (trust is involved here  ;) ) then it goes pretty quick.

I ruined an an ax by beating on it. It caused the eye to change shape. I you could probably do this with an all steel ax or hatchet head without damaging it.

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Re: Cutting up large pieces of lead...
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2013, 07:24:02 PM »
  Never beat on a axe with eye.  It will ruin them every time if beat hard.  Estwing makes tough solid head hatchets with steel handles and I have one from an estate which had the head flared out from splitting wood with it, by driving it through with a hammer.  Use a rawhide mallet or weld up a mild steel 'sledge' so the head isn't battered out and it will stand up a LONG time. 
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