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         Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule  By Joshua Rhett Miller
Published September 25, 2012
FoxNews.com      A Texas school district has decided to change its corporal punishment policy rather than apologize after a male vice principal paddled two high school girls, prompting complaints from their parents.
Board members of Springtown ISD voted unanimously late Monday to change the district’s policy, which now requires a female administrator to be present if a male school official spanks a female student, MyFoxDFW.com reports.
 
A debate over the district’s policy erupted after the mother of two girls attending Springtown High School noticed bruises left behind by the paddling doled out by Assistant Principal Kirt Shaw.
 
"I did give him permission to swat her,” said Cathi Watts, whose 16-year-old daughter, Jada, suffered bruises on her backside that were visible for more than a week. “I didn't give him permission to bruise her.”
Watts said the marks she saw on her daughter prompted her to call Child Protective Services.
"She told me the story and I looked at her butt and I was floored. The imprint of a paddle, the imprint," Watts said.
Another student at the school, Taylor Santos, 15, allegedly let a classmate copy her homework, prompting Shaw to discipline the girl with a large wooden paddle, which he swung with a violent, upward motion, according to the girl's mom, Anna Jorgensen.
 
“She was telling me it was numb and that it burned,” Jorgensen told FoxNews.com on Monday. “And it looked like a burn. She slept on her side that night. She was more humiliated and embarrassed than anything, but the more she and I thought about it, it wasn’t fair and I thought I needed to do something about it.”
 
Jorgensen told FoxNews.com her daughter initially received two days of in-school suspension for allowing another student to copy her work. When she was offered the chance to take a paddling in lieu of the second day of suspension, she submitted.
“I really don’t think he had to hit her that hard."
 
Shaw first had the girl call her mother to approve the punishment, which is required. Jorgensen said she agreed, but had no idea the whack would come from a man — or be so severe. Jorgensen said her daughter, a cross-country athlete who weighs just 95 pounds, was left with large, blistered wounds on her buttocks.
 
“I really don’t think he had to hit her that hard,” she said. “I’m not saying he went in to intentionally hurt my daughter, but intentional or not, it did happen.”
Springtown ISD Superintendent Mike Kelley defended the use of corporal punishment in the school system.
 
“We only use corporal punishment if the parent or guardian requests it,” Kelley told FoxNews.com prior to Monday’s vote. “We have not deviated from that practice.”
Watts, meanwhile, still believes the district’s new policy puts her daughter and other female students in a bad situation.
 
"If I put a mark on her head and send her to school [child protective services] is gonna knock on my door,” Watts told MyFoxDFW.com. “No authority, no school official should be able to bruise my child.”
FoxNews.com's Joshua Rhett Miller contributed to this report.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/25/texas-school-district-changes-corporal-punishment-policy-after-complaints/#ixzz27VHmjQE6
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Re: Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule.
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2012, 09:52:23 AM »
Shades of my school years.!! :o :o
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Re: Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule.
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2012, 11:21:31 AM »
Had her parents done that the girl would have been taken from them by DHR. While I do believe in spanking kids that need it I don't believe in abusing them and at school I think women not men should spank girls.

I think it was in either fourth or fifth grade (way too long ago to recall which) there were several boys who were involved in a competition to see who could get the most paddlings that year. Dumb! Man that teacher swung a huge thick paddle with holes in it and he was a strong man and really laid into them. Me I made sure I did not get that treatment. I got enough abuse at home and didn't need more at school.


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Re: Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule.
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2012, 03:41:28 PM »
There is no reason for a man to paddle a girl.  I would even question letting a non relative woman do it.  There are web sights that specialize in corporal punishment (porn), and this is way too close.  This could be called sexual assault on a 16 yo woman.


As already noted, there was a place and time for ME or my wife to spank the kids, now it is the job of the parents of the grandkids.  We never left bruises or got any gratification out of it.  We also made a point to not overreact and go ballistic.


If it indeed has gone numb, it means nerve damage.  We have no way of knowing the whole family situation there.


As for links to mental illness:  was it proper parental discipline or the (more likely) abuse by parties unknown, or came out of a bottle belonging both to the spanker and spankee.
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Re: Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule.
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2012, 04:27:25 PM »
If my kid acted up at school, I told the school to call me. I'll come straighten it out right now. If I have to take off work so be it. Dads as well as moms need to step up and do thier duty.
 
I would be very displeased for a male teacher to spank my daughter. I would spank if warranted but another man needs to keep his hands off my daughter. I have no problem discussing the inappropriate conduct with a male teacher in the parking lot.

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Re: Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule.
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2012, 07:24:42 AM »
 Men did not paddle girls at the school I went to, also in Texas. I got paddled on a regular basis it seemed, usually for something trivial. I had a track coach in the 8th grade, he would have you run your event at the end of practice, and if you didn't beat your best time, you got 3 licks with a wooden paddle, and those thin track shorts & jockey straps weren't much padding! I "learned" real fast to "save a little energy" during practice so I could beat my best time....I'm not stupid. I think most of the coaches we had were slightly sadistic anyhow,ha.
Anyhow, I raised twin girls, and I too would have "discussed it in the parking lot" if any man had paddled them, and especially if he bruised them.....I would "pray through" later, ha.
I do believe in corporal punishment, and I also believe in students wearing belts with their pants up where they belong. I never understood the 'fashion" of looking like a punk in prison advertising the booty?!  What a world.

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Re: Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule.
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2012, 07:45:16 AM »
If the rule is same sex spanking the guy was probably getting his Jolly's. If he did that to my daughter he had better be swinging or running when I show up because I would clean his clock!

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Re: Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule.
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2012, 10:14:19 AM »
I've got to admit I'm floored that apparently the school got permission from the parent(s) to dish out corporal punishment.  Did they enquire just what that might entail?
 
Having gone through a school system when this sort of thing, slapping repeatedly in the face, beating on the hands and buttocks with rods( not paddling I can assure you) was routine I have little tolerance for it now.
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Re: Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule.
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2012, 11:21:13 AM »
I don't see a problem.
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Re: Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule.
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2012, 03:11:10 PM »
The male went a bit over board leaving welts. It looks to me like he was getting his jollies more than disciplining.

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Re: Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule.
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2012, 03:52:09 PM »
WE had a teacher in the 6th grade who used a pointer. He hit several kids hard enough to break the pointer in 1/2. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule.
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2012, 09:29:35 PM »
This incident happened locally and I see no problem what so ever with how it was handled.  The administrator that dished it out was honestly not aware of the policy requiring a woman, which is pretty weak as he should have known.  Female adminstrators are in short supply and not readily available for such things when they are required (thats why they changed the policy to begin with at the meeting).  The girls in question specifically requested to take swats in lui of finishing a 2 day suspension.  The parents were called and okayed the punishment.  A adult Female was present at the time to ensure there was no funny stuff of an unprofessional nature occured.  He didnt step into it like he was swinging from east of the Miss. River.  I mean did Mom think he was suppose to use a pillow instread of a paddle.  Was corpal punishment supposed to feel good or be punishment?  Further more it wasnt even the first choice of punishment to begin with.  The girls wanted that as opposed to 2 day suspension.  I think its just a case of a lot of unneccessary crying over something that really doesnt rate it.

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Re: Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule.
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2012, 10:19:42 PM »
My parents were pretty traditional and OK with paddling.

One of my teachers, an attractive woman actually, wanted to paddle me. My mother ordinarily was ok with this in principle but  she  thought it was kind of weird since I was 17 at the time and hadn't been paddled for many years.

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Re: Texas school OKs opposite sex spankings after principal breaks rule.
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2012, 08:44:09 AM »
I have been a teacher now for 24 years (elementary), and have never been in a situation during which I felt paddling was necessary. Not that I haven't wanted to, but doing so would not ensure that the same behavior would not happen again. There is always a more appropriate alternative, especially one that "hurts" more.
 
 
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