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Lakota Nation secedes from the USA  Tohono O’Odham Nation and 19 others may follow
The Lakota Nation has withdrawn from all treaties with the United States, national leaders said Wednesday. “We are no longer citizens of the United States of America and all those who live in the five-state area that encompasses our country are free to join us,” Indian leader Russell Means told reporters and a delegation from the Bolivian embassy at a Washington news conference.
 
A delegation of Lakota leaders delivered a message to the US State Department on Monday, announcing they were unilaterally withdrawing from treaties they signed with the federal government of the United States. They also visited the Bolivian, Chilean, South African and Venezuelan embassies, and will continue on their diplomatic mission and take it overseas in the coming weeks and months, they told the news conference.
 
  The Lakota Nation includes parts of the states of Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana and Wyoming. The new country would issue its own passports and driver's licenses. Also, living in the new independent and sovereign nation will be tax-free, provided residents renounce their US citizenship, Russell Means said.
 
  In addition, the Tohono O’Odham Nation and 19 other Indigenous nations declared similar proclamations at the Indigenous Peoples' Border Summit of the Americas that took place last month at the San Xavier District of Arizona. One of the principal resolutions declared at the summit was, "To create and use Indian Nations/tribal passports, identifications, and immigration documents for travel across imposed borders, specifically tribes along settler borders along Mexico and the U.S. and the U.S. and Canada, and to fully reinstate their traditional border crossing rights and abilities." 
 
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Re: Lakota Sioux nation secedes from the union, no longer part of the USA.
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 01:37:28 PM »
Uh, kinda old news there....

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December 19, 2007 11:00 pm •  Bill Harlan, Journal staff(0) Comments   Political activist Russell Means, a founder of the American Indian Movement, says he and other members of Lakota tribes have renounced treaties and are withdrawing from the United States.
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Re: Lakota Sioux nation secedes from the union, no longer part of the USA.
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 01:56:54 PM »
We should cut off their checks.
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Re: Lakota Sioux nation secedes from the union, no longer part of the USA.
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 02:07:11 PM »
CUTS. Thanks, I missed the date. First I'd noticed the story. Sorry guys. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: Lakota Sioux nation secedes from the union, no longer part of the USA.
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 04:30:42 PM »
OK I don't live in the USA ----not much here is changed - do we start using gold and silver.. Dollars still work fine as of today.....
If they thought out the EPA -- the white folks might join there movement...
I didn't know old Russell was out of prison from the 1972 New Nation thing...
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Re: Lakota Sioux nation secedes from the union, no longer part of the USA.
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 06:37:35 PM »
Fine with me as long as they give up all the US Gov't free goodies as well.

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Re: Lakota Sioux nation secedes from the union, no longer part of the USA.
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2012, 02:02:44 AM »
This also means that any and all land taken by the US Government way back when and given back to them under treaty is no longer in effect and may be reclaimed as US PROPERTY WITH OUT COMPANSATION OF ANY SORT. I bet they never thought of that before making their announcement.
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Re: Lakota Sioux nation secedes from the union, no longer part of the USA.
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2012, 04:47:35 AM »
Ya can't blame them. Foreign aide pays a lot better than welfare!

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Re: Lakota Sioux nation secedes from the union, no longer part of the USA.
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2012, 05:15:56 AM »
Just thought of a few other things.
If they are now a separate nation then they have no entitlements nor government aid of any kind.
Without taxes how are they going to take care of their roads, schools, hospitals and everything else?
 
 
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Re: Lakota Sioux nation secedes from the union, no longer part of the USA.
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2012, 05:34:00 AM »
Are some of you guys going to speak as harshly of other U.S. States after they've seceded from the union because they've grown tired of Obama's Amerika in years ahead? Seems disingenuous to belittle these people for doing the very thing that so many here have called for other states to do. Pay attention to these people-we all will soon know what it feels like to be an indian.
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Re: Lakota Sioux nation secedes from the union, no longer part of the USA.
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2012, 05:59:18 AM »
Just thought of a few other things.
If they are now a separate nation then they have no entitlements nor government aid of any kind.
Without taxes how are they going to take care of their roads, schools, hospitals and everything else?
 
 
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From all the tolls on the roads that cross their lands . BTW their casinos might cover expenses along with gold and oil rights . That ingun might be crazy like a fox  ;)
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Re: Lakota Sioux nation secedes from the union, no longer part of the USA.
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2012, 10:14:48 AM »
Just thought of a few other things.
If they are now a separate nation then they have no entitlements nor government aid of any kind.
Without taxes how are they going to take care of their roads, schools, hospitals and everything else?
 
 
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From all the tolls on the roads that cross their lands . BTW their casinos might cover expenses along with gold and oil rights . That ingun might be crazy like a fox  ;)

Forgot about the gambling joints and oil but if the treaty is broken then the government can take back what they stoll from the Indians in the first place without compensation which includes all mineral rights.
That only leaves the tolls to pay for everything.
 
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I didn't mean my replies to sound harsh on them.
Quite the contrary, I agree with what they are trying to do just as I will support any other state or people who joins in.
I was mearly pointing out a few things that I don't beleive they took into consideration before they broke off.
By breaking the treaty (as if the government hasn't ever done that before) the government can lay claim to any and all lands and their assets that were included in the treaty in the first place.
They also may try to charge for the use of the land that the casinos sit on in one form or another if they don't just take them over along with all the rest of it.
Just something to think about.
 
 
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Re: Lakota Sioux nation secedes from the union, no longer part of the USA.
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2012, 06:37:00 PM »
I am not Lakota and I am in no way affiliated with them. I have always liked their culture and the sound of their language. Lakota is my black lab's name. I am actually 1/4 Cherokee. Now that group may not have thought things through or had any contigency plans but then again maybe they did. The more I read about them the more they sound like people who just want to live free and not be bothered by an ever encroaching government-just like me. As far as I am concerned anyone who is willing to stand up and declare independence from this corrupt union are the good guys in my eyes. Quite frankly I am suprised that Uncle Barack hasnt sent them his tidings in the form of a Ruby Ridge or Waco Texas style visit yet.
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Re: Lakota Sioux nation secedes from the union, no longer part of the USA.
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2012, 04:16:02 AM »
It might be interesting to see . America has supported others breaking away or splitting nations . How will the world judge America if it dosen't pratice what it preaches ?
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