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Offline Sourdough

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Do you pay to live in your state
« on: October 05, 2012, 07:27:42 AM »
I was having a discussion with my sister-in-law Ellen last night.  She is trying to convince me to move to Virginia.  She and my wife's brother lives in New Port News, right on Chesapeake Bay.  I told her living there is too restrictive.  She just can not understand this.  I pointed out that when we come to visit, we can not park our Camper in the driveway or back yard and spend the night in it, the city has a law against it.  Therefore we have to go to a motel, or a commercial campground.  They have a luxury tax on vehicles and RVs.  If you live on a rural farm, they tax your out buildings and your livestock.  And the state has a hefty Income tax.  The cost of living is so high their daughter and her new husband can not afford their own place to live.  They are living with Ellen and Mike.

I equated it to having to pay to live in that state.  I would not have to pay to live in Florida, Tennessee, Nevada, South Dakota, or Texas.  They do not have state income taxes.  In fact I get paid to live in Alaska, so why would I want to move.  she just can not understand that other people in the country do not pay income taxes to the state.  Or the difference it can make in peoples lives.

So I ask the question, Do You Pay To Live In Your State?  If so why?  I just got my annual dividend yesterday.  This year it is the smallest it's been in years due to the poor economy.  We only got $878.00 each.  That's enough for each of us to buy round trip tickets to the lower 48, for a vacation.   
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Re: Do you pay to live in your state
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2012, 08:25:48 AM »
Quote from: Sourdough on October 05, 2012, 07:27:42 AM
I was having a discussion with my sister-in-law Ellen last night.  She is trying to convince me to move to Virginia.  She and my wife's brother lives in New Port News, right on Chesapeake Bay.  I told her living there is too restrictive.  She just can not understand this.  I pointed out that when we come to visit, we can not park our Camper in the driveway or back yard and spend the night in it, the city has a law against it.Most places in Va don't .  Therefore we have to go to a motel, or a commercial campground.  They have a luxury tax on vehicles and RVsMaybe on RV's i don't own one but not all other vehicles . If you live on a rural farm, they tax your out buildings and your livestock.I raised beef cows and filed taxes as a farmer and never paid a tax on livestock , I had my taxes done by a CPA firm .   And the state has a hefty Income tax.guiess you have to compare services to what you pay.   The cost of living is so high their daughter and her new husband can not afford their own place to live.I see lots of kids doing this most of the time they did not plan ahead and save or just can't manage money. Most don't want to start at the boittom and work up.   They are living with Ellen and Mike.

I equated it to having to pay to live in that state.  I would not have to pay to live in Florida, Tennessee, Nevada, South Dakota, or Texas.You pay but it's every time you buy something not once a year.  They do not have state income taxes.  In fact I get paid to live in Alaska, so why would I want to move.to join the rat race  ::)   she just can not understand that other people in the country do not pay income taxes to the state.  Or the difference it can make in peoples lives.

So I ask the question, Do You Pay To Live In Your State? YES If so why? I like the services my taxes provide , I have good work here , My fuel cost to heat my home are low ( how much do you spend in cash or labor ?) I just got my annual dividend yesterday.  This year it is the smallest it's been in years due to the poor economy.  We only got $878.00 each.  That's enough for each of us to buy round trip tickets to the lower 48, for a vacation. I drive an hour west I'm in the Blue Ridge Mts. I drive hour and a half east I'm on the Chesapeke bay add 1/2 hour I'm in the Atlantic ocean all great vacation spots. So what did you save ?
bottom line where ever you are cost in cash , time , aval. things to do , aval. work and every other aspect of life. What do you pay for gas ? ammo ? food , shipping for things you get ?
Newport News is not the best Va. has to offer as for restriction free places to live.
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Re: Do you pay to live in your state
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2012, 08:45:49 AM »
SHOOTALL:  My wife lived there before she went into the Air Force.  She had a horse, and had to pay a tax on her horse every year there in New Port News. 

We went to visit shortly after we were married and parked my truck in her Dad's drive.  That night after we had gone to bed the police knocked on the door and told us we were not allowed to sleep in the camper there, had to move to a commercial camp ground.  I got a citation, cost me $250.00.  Michelle and I had slept in the camper at my folks house in Tennessee with no problems.

You brought up sales taxes, I did not address them since we buy most of our things on the military base where you don't have to pay sales tax.

Florida and Tennessee have services that are just as good as Virginia without an income tax.  Services in the city of Anchorage are no different than the services in any other city in the lower 48.  But here in Fairbanks we don't have those services.  If we wanted them we would move to Anchorage or the lower 48.  Yes we pay more for shipping, but with no sales tax it comes out to be no more than what you pay, sometimes less.   
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Re: Do you pay to live in your state
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2012, 09:06:29 AM »
Quote from: Sourdough on October 05, 2012, 08:45:49 AM
SHOOTALL:  My wife lived there before she went into the Air Force.  She had a horse, and had to pay a tax on her horse every year there in New Port News.  There you go a local tax not state tax . Like I said NN is not repsentive of Va.

We went to visit shortly after we were married and parked my truck in her Dad's drive.  That night after we had gone to bed the police knocked on the door and told us we were not allowed to sleep in the camper there, had to move to a commercial camp ground.  I got a citation, cost me $250.00.  Michelle and I had slept in the camper at my folks house in Tennessee with no problems.Still local NN

You brought up sales taxes, I did not address them since we buy most of our things on the military base where you don't have to pay sales tax.Well you would be hard pressed to find a state with more bases than Va. NN area has Army, Marine , Airforce , FBI training base etc etc .

Florida and Tennessee have services that are just as good as Virginia without an income tax. So they cost nothing ? the state grows $$$$$$$ ? Services in the city of Anchorage are no different than the services in any other city in the lower 48.  But here in Fairbanks we don't have those services.  If we wanted them we would move to Anchorage or the lower 48.  Yes we pay more for shipping, but with no sales tax it comes out to be no more than what you pay, sometimes less. Maybe so but I would thing competition here would keep cost lower that up there. Consider we have at least 25 places to buy guns with in 30 miles of my home. Most likely a hundred to buy ammo. We can own full auto , suppressors , short bbl rifle and shotguns.
You have a great state no doubt enen if it is dark and cold half the year.  ;D You name Fl and Tn Fl has no moutians and Tn has no Bay or Ocean . Va has all three. Good climate , great hunting and fishing .
You harp on NN hey they have a food tax for crying out loud. Go to williamsburg to eat when you are down cost less.
Next time you travel down a gravel main road just think if in Va. it would paved , maybe lighted .
 
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Re: Do you pay to live in your state
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2012, 10:08:11 AM »
You still pay a state income tax to live there.  I don't

With the exception of three, all highways in Alaska are paved.  Those three are the Taylor, Steese, and Dalton.  The Taylor is only open half the year, and dead ends at Eagle on the Yukon river.  Year round population about 35.  The Steese is paved half the way to Circle, also dead ending at the Yukon River.  Half the Dalton (Ice Road) is paved.  They don't show that on Ice Road Truckers, they make you think it is all gravel.  The highway I drive every day into Fairbanks is four lanes, with every intersection lighted.  All city streets are paved through out the state.  You will see gravel streets in the villages and towns off the road system.  The money comes from Oil and Mining revenues.  The state owns all the oil and minerals in Alaska.

I don't live in the city, I live out of town.  I live in a subdivision with three and five acres lots.  The street I live on is gravel.  I have been trying to get it paved for 30 years.  The state will pave it, but the neighbors don't want it paved, yet most have paved driveways.  They think the gravel street will slow down the traffic.  The only people it slows down is the wife and I when we are driving out sports cars.  We are the only ones in this subdivision that drives cars.  Everyone else drives Monster trucks, or SUVs.  Even my S-10 is jacked up with big wheels and tires.  Rhino lining on the lower panels to protect from the gravel.  Our street is the only gravel it sees.
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Re: Do you pay to live in your state
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2012, 10:14:41 AM »
sure i pay.


someone has to foot the bill for
all those lone star cards and
section 8 houses with satellite t.v.



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Re: Do you pay to live in your state
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2012, 03:52:55 PM »
You're not going to top Alaskan benefits. It's the "Welfare State"  ;)
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Re: Do you pay to live in your state
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2012, 04:29:57 PM »
I live in New Hampshire, there is no income or sales tax. You have to choose the town you live in wisely, though. Some towns have very reasonable property taxes while others are simply ridiculous.
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Re: Do you pay to live in your state
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2012, 04:58:32 PM »
Same with Texas.  Property Taxes can be has high or higher than NM State and property taxes combined.
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Re: Do you pay to live in your state
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2012, 11:36:15 PM »
 I pay dearly to live on the Southern CA coast. Property is sky high and so are taxes. However, living here does have its benefits...
 
 We choose to home-school our Son and CA has some of the least restrictive laws/regulations in the nation (that alone is worth the price of admission as far as I'm concerned).
 
 Our city is consistently rated as one of the "Ten Most Healthy" to live in, as well as one of the top cities to raise a family in the US.
 
 Temp is rarely below 45 nor higher than 85, with low humididty. We have no need for AC and pay ~$200/yr to heat (natural gas) our home.
 
 Very few insects ever bother us (only bugs we really have a problem with are termites).
 
 We can walk to the beach or be shooting/hunting in the local mountains/deserts within two hours.
 
 Yes, I pay through the nose to live here. However, I couldn't earn the money I do anywhere else. All things considered, I certainly couldn't live any more comfortably anywhere else.
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Re: Do you pay to live in your state
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2012, 04:22:31 AM »
Everyone pays to live where they do. Some more, some less.

I chose NM over TX. It's cheaper to live here than there even with a state income tax. There are other reasons also like lots of public land as opposed to almost none.

Sourdough, how much does it cost to heat your home per year?
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Re: Do you pay to live in your state
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2012, 04:45:02 AM »
We pay no state income tax here in Washington State and our property taxes are very reasonable compared to eastern states.  Our electricity is about the cheapest in the country.  We do have a sales tax, but not on food.  Oregon has no sales tax, so we can drive across the river (Columbia) and shop tax free for non-food items.  The worst price we have to pay for living in this state is that it's a blue state, but it hasn't always been and we're hoping to replace our Dumycrat Governor with a Republican in November.
 
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Re: Do you pay to live in your state
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2012, 06:20:48 AM »
I live in an area of Minnesota that is known for relatively low property taxes. However, they are not actually low. The nominal tax is low, but the actual tax is about 2.3 times higher, making it on par with the big cities with high tax rates. The difference comes as what I call "ten thousand dollar surprises", where we get assessed an extra ten grand for something every five years or so. Just out of the blue we need to pay for some road work or a septic system upgrade, and this is in addition to normal property taxes. It makes the area very undesirable, and I warn those contemplating living in the exurbs of the Minneapolis/St Paul area away from settling down here. Other places I have lived have what is known as "planning". It's when cities and counties know that certain things are going to have to happen, and they set property tax rates according to those budgeted events. That kind of thinking doesn't seem to apply here.
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Re: Do you pay to live in your state
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2012, 06:30:52 AM »
After consideration Va. is arwful don't come .  ;)
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