Author Topic: Pedophile (Read 3117 times)

mechanic · « **on:** October 06, 2012, 10:34:20 AM »

In another post discussing homosexuality and the Boy Scouts, one poster said, "Outing gays- YES
Outing Pedophiles- NO.

Now this brings me to play the devil's advocate, and ask why some think homosexuality is right, but pedophilia is wrong......why?

Ben

FPH · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2012, 10:52:19 AM »

Homosexuality between two consulting adults is neither right or wrong, it is just none of your business. Pedophilia takes advantage of a innocent victim and should not be tolerated.

Dee · « **Reply #2 on:** October 06, 2012, 10:58:59 AM »

RAPE takes advantage of an "innocent" person. Pedophilia takes advantage of an "innocent CHILD".

As far as "queer activity", aka, homosexual activity, being neither right nor wrong, this also is not true. It not only goes against God, but against NATURE, and is therefore "disgustingly wrong", both morally and socially.

FPH · « **Reply #3 on:** October 06, 2012, 11:05:02 AM »

Where was rape addressed in the question. I can show you all sorts of homosexuality in nature.....so come off your pious pedestal.

Dee · « **Reply #4 on:** October 06, 2012, 11:13:53 AM »

Quote from: FPH on October 06, 2012, 11:05:02 AM

Where was rape addressed in the question. I can show you all sorts of homosexuality in nature.....so come off your pious pedestal.

My so-called "pious pedestal", was straightening out a definition of an act that you obviously don't understand. Pedophilia is about sexually abused CHILDREN, and has nothing to do with innocent "adult" VICTIMS.
You not only didn't understand what a pedophile is, you didn't understand what I said. Rape was used as an example of "innocent victim" If you had understood that, you wouldn't have gotten you panties in such a wad.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #5 on:** October 06, 2012, 11:22:27 AM »

Quote from: FPH on October 06, 2012, 10:52:19 AM

Homosexuality between two consulting adults is neither right or wrong, it is just none of your business. Pedophilia takes advantage of a innocent victim and should not be tolerated.

The pedophile most talked about today, has been found Guilty and will be sentenced on Tuesday.
Some of the Jurors want him to get life.Talking about Sandusky. Life (IMO) is too good for him.
http://seattletimes.com/html/sports/2019359468_apuspennstateabusejurors.html

FPH · « **Reply #6 on:** October 06, 2012, 11:25:07 AM »

Of course the victim is a child........what do you think pedopilia insinuates?

FPH · « **Reply #7 on:** October 06, 2012, 11:27:06 AM »

pedophilia that is

mechanic · « **Reply #8 on:** October 06, 2012, 12:26:21 PM »

My point was, we must have a standard for morals. Mine is the Bible.

Yours might be something else if you condone homosexuality.

The pedophiles' is yet again another standard.

If mankind gets to pick and choose the standard, the pedophile is as right as anyone else if he can convince enough people to go along with him.

If the Bible is not the standard, the standard will change from time to time, as it did in ancient Rome.

Ben

Dee · « **Reply #9 on:** October 06, 2012, 12:51:02 PM »

Your original question, I would say, the adult has the choice, while the child seldom does. As to why some think one would be right, and the other wrong. I would say that is due to their moral makeup. Or lack of it.

mechanic · « **Reply #10 on:** October 06, 2012, 12:59:25 PM »

I you read my post, I ask the question (why some think). Every man must have a basis for his decisions. Do I think pedophilia is worse that homosexuality? I sure do.....but my standard for life condemns both.

I have, (had) two nephews both of whom were gay. One finished college, got a PHD, got an outstanding job and died of aids at age 28.

The other lives with his other in a neighboring state.

Every man has to make his own decisions......but even if a majority of the populace decide being gay is acceptable, and gay marriage is as well.....does'nt make it right.

If so, then if a majority of the populace may decide pedophilia is ok......some middle eastern countries think so.....we don't share the same standard, they and I....

Ben

FPH · « **Reply #11 on:** October 06, 2012, 01:12:43 PM »

I object to the changing of the definition of the word marriage to include two people of the same sex.......that is a Union to me.......but don't bastardize the word marriage. I think homosexuality is a choice to be made by an adult individual, as I choose heterosexuality........pedophiles should be shot because I don't think they will ever change and they have the potential to harm a child.

m-g Willy · « **Reply #12 on:** October 06, 2012, 02:12:22 PM »

I think some people don't understand that when something is wrong, then it is WRONG!
So they judge it as, "well it isn't as bad as "_FILL IN THE BLANK_"
Example = A homosexual may be wrong but it isn't as bad as a pedophile.
Thats like saying 1+1=3 (3 =homo) isn't as wrong as 1+1= 4 (4=pedophile).
They are both WRONG!
So don't condone 1+1=3

powderman · « **Reply #13 on:** October 06, 2012, 02:56:35 PM »

MECHANIC. Good posts Sir. Homosexuality is an obamination in Gods eyes, and mine. POWDERMAN.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #14 on:** October 06, 2012, 02:57:50 PM »

There are two types of pedophiles. One is attracted to females, the other to Male's. They are both Rapists of children.A Pedophile like Sandusky has Homosexual tendencies and prey's on Boy's.

All Homosexual's aren't Pedophiles, and all Pedophiles are not Homosexual.But all Pedophiles share one thing in common....Their sexual appetite for adolescent children.If they cannot maintain control of their feelings and become Molesters of children, then IMO, they have given up the right to exist with normal people period. What one does with a consenting adult in the privacy of their own abode is nobody's business but their own.

two-blocked · « **Reply #15 on:** October 06, 2012, 04:39:51 PM »

Homosexuality does occur in NATURE!
List of animals displaying homosexual behavior
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Homosexual behavior in animals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

thumper113 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 06, 2012, 04:43:30 PM »

I really don't care if it occurs in nature or not.

My dog will eat its own poop but I don't want my grandkids doing it.

FPH · « **Reply #17 on:** October 06, 2012, 05:09:43 PM »

Quote from: thumper113 on October 06, 2012, 04:43:30 PM

I really don't care if it occurs in nature or not.

My dog will eat its own poop but I don't want my grandkids doing it.

Try feeding your dog properly. You can make that go away.

two-blocked · « **Reply #18 on:** October 06, 2012, 05:11:05 PM »

Coprophagia, or feces eating, is not a genetic trait (like homosexuality) or symptomatic of any particular mental or emotional disorder. It is a form of pica, or ingestion of non-nutritive substances. It is more commonly seen in forms of mental retardation or the more severe types of pervasive developmental disorder,

Are you or your grandchildren retarded or have any severe pervasive mental disorders?

mechanic · « **Reply #19 on:** October 06, 2012, 05:15:27 PM »

There may be a genetic component to homosexuality...there are several people in one line of my family.....but the difference is animals are controlled by instinct. Men should be controlled by right and wrong.

We can make a choice...animals cannot.

It's not having the desire that makes a thing wrong....it's giving in to it.

Ben

FPH · « **Reply #20 on:** October 06, 2012, 05:18:46 PM »

We Will never agree on the hard wired traits of homosexuality.......I'm going back to gun questions. This is getting mundane.

mechanic · « **Reply #21 on:** October 06, 2012, 05:23:59 PM »

I'm going to restate on thing, then I'm done with it as well...

We all have some moral compass that we guide our lives by:

Me...it's the Bible

Others....their own or someone else's intellect..that is their creed.

Yet others......whatever fill their desires......without regard for law or creed.

These things divide us and always will.

When the court of opinion shifts away from the Bible...what is moral is always changing. We see that in the history of Rome and the gladiator contests...life became cheap. We see that in Rome where the father owned the infant until 12 mo's of age..he could legally smash it's head against a tree.

We see it in many places historically..just before the made a tragic end.

Ben

Gus McCrae · « **Reply #22 on:** October 06, 2012, 05:58:01 PM »

What two consenting adults do is not yours or the government's business.

If two consenting adults want to get married, it's not yours or the government's business.

The word marriage is just a word. There is nothing inherently special about the word. How you and your spouse treat your marriage is what is sacred.

The GOP, conservatives, and whoever else needs to get off their moral high horse and leave the issue to those who commit the sins and God. After all, we are all sinners.

For those that prey on children..... Well, what I think we should do with them might be sinful.

briarpatch · « **Reply #23 on:** October 06, 2012, 09:24:18 PM »

When you turn the Sanctity of Marriage over to homosexuals you distroy the protection of children. So called married homos or pedophiles can now adopt a child and the nighmare for it know no bounds.
homos should stay out of marriage which is for the purpose of procreation, protection and rearing of children.
We are not as animals which go by smell and other action we dont understand.

Gus McCrae · « **Reply #24 on:** October 07, 2012, 04:40:27 AM »

Quote from: briarpatch on October 06, 2012, 09:24:18 PM

When you turn the Sanctity of Marriage over to homosexuals you distroy the protection of children. So called married homos or pedophiles can now adopt a child and the nighmare for it know no bounds.
homos should stay out of marriage which is for the purpose of procreation, protection and rearing of children.
We are not as animals which go by smell and other action we dont understand.

What a bunch of garbage. Just because someone is homosexual, it doesn't mean they are a pedophile. Straight people can be pedophiles too. This idea of yours is pretty grotesque. I sometimes wonder how people automatically go to something so disgusting when talking about someone who is gay.

There is no evidence that a gay couple can't raise a perfectly well adjusted child. Among mental and healthcare professionals, a consensus has developed that a gay couple can raise a child as well as non gay couples.

http://docfiles.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/massachusetts/madce/1:2009cv10309/120672/70/0.pdf

https://ecf.cand.uscourts.gov/cand/09cv2292/files/09cv2292-ORDER.pdf

So, the question is how much do you care about children? Do you let them live in cold, near loveless government care or in an abusive home or let them live with a couple who actually cares about the welfare of the child? Who do you think is better equipped to take care of the child?

Is acting on gay tendencies wrong according to the bible? Sure it is. Jesus loved everyone even though we are all a bunch of sinners. Maybe you should too.

Gus McCrae · « **Reply #25 on:** October 07, 2012, 04:42:50 AM »

Oh, Gay people do adopt in this country. It is legal in some state.

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #26 on:** October 07, 2012, 08:19:41 AM »

The interactions of two consenting adults are qiute a bit different than those of a child and an adult.

You do not need to be of any sort of religious background to understand the difference. The age of consent may be argued among different cultures, but there is a line that is not to be crossed everywhere.

briarpatch · « **Reply #27 on:** October 07, 2012, 08:37:21 AM »

How can a straight person be a pedophile? Let me ask that again. How can a straight person be a pedophile. Have you seen the irony?
Homo.. is a harsh world, not for adults or children. There may be a few that could raise a child and it not be mentally impaired but very few. The studies are at most biased and done by homos and those that have an interest in the positive reflection of such.
I doubt that married homo or lizzys take care of the majority of kids they take in. A red flag has been raised when a man or woman seeks their own kind. They dont need kids or marriage just a place out of the way to practice a very selfish, perverted exchange of doing things.

FPH · « **Reply #28 on:** October 07, 2012, 08:57:52 AM »

Are you serious. Most pediphiles are hetero. "sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object". Why would you think a hetero. could not be a pedophile? Here is your sign. Show me the studies where children are impaired by homosexual parents....you can't..... Boy are you full of bull.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 07, 2012, 09:14:34 AM »

Quote from: FPH on October 07, 2012, 08:57:52 AM

Are you serious.

Yeah, they're serious... and being convinced that God is on Their Side, you'll find reason & persuasion slow going & likely futile.