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3 states to vote on recreational marijuana use.
« on: October 08, 2012, 09:52:51 AM »
High times: 3 states to vote on recreational marijuana use  By Dan Springer
Published October 08, 2012
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  Advocates of legalizing marijuana for recreational use may be closing in on their first statewide victory. Voter initiatives that would legalize up to an ounce of pot will be on the ballot in three states in November: Oregon, Colorado and Washington State. Polling shows the measures leading in Washington and Colorado with at least 50 percent support.
 
“If Washington or Colorado wins in November, and both of them have a good chance to do so, it is going to be transformative in the way we think about marijuana policy in this country and even outside,” says longtime legalization advocate Ethan Nadelmann of the Drug Policy Alliance.
 
There’s little organized opposition in Washington State. Interestingly, many of those who have spoken publicly against legalization are in the medical marijuana community. While some worry about pot dispensaries being put out of business, others fear new DUI laws that could make it illegal to be driving with even a trace of THC in one’s system.
 
Still, opponents have raised only $6,000 compared to supporters, who have collected more than $4 million. The single biggest contributor has been Peter Lewis, the chairman of Progressive Insurance and a mega donor to liberal causes. He has given $1.6 million to the New Approach Washington campaign.
To combat the cash imbalance, nine former heads of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder urging him to speak out against legalization. There’s been no response.
 
President Obama and his drug czar Gil Kerlikowski also have been mum even though the government’s website is full of warnings. The Office of National Drug Control Policy quotes a study that found 1 in 6 kids who tries marijuana is at risk of developing a drug addiction in their life. Also, the most recent National Survey on Drug Use and Health finds marijuana use among teenagers up sharply to almost 17 million, a 7-year high. More than 6 percent of high school seniors said they smoked pot daily.
 
President George Bush’s drug czar, John Walters, can’t understand why President Obama is not using his bully pulpit.
“I think it’s shocking that Attorney General Holder, the Director Kerlikowski, but most of all the president of the United States, can’t talk about this,” says Walters. “It’s about health, it’s about safety, it’s about the future of the country.”
 
Meantime, Initiative 502 in Washington State keeps racking up endorsements. Most elected leaders in Seattle support the measure, including the current sheriff and his opponent in the upcoming election. Former U.S. Attorney John McKay is one of its sponsors. But the most stunning endorsement came from the Children’s Alliance, an umbrella organization for 100 child welfare groups.
 
Jon Gould, Deputy Director of the Children’s Alliance, says marijuana laws are being enforced unevenly and that hurts minorities and the poor.
“If those kids’ parents are shut out of housing, shut out of employment, shut out of education opportunities, we’re not helping those kids,” says Gould.
 
Legalization opponents argue very few people are locked up for marijuana possession. A survey by the Bureau of Justice Statistics showed that .07% of all state inmates were busted for marijuana possession only.
“We need to understand that drugs and gangs go hand in hand,” says Paul Chabot, who advised Presidents Clinton and Bush on drug policy. “They destroy communities. What we have to do is work keeping people off this stuff, not liberalizing policies.”
 
Legal or not, young people would still be barred from smoking pot. And critics argue more kids would try it, something the administration has always been against. But so far this election year, instead of using the power of the office, that message has gone up in smoke.

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Re: 3 states to vote on recreational marijuana use.
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2012, 11:28:00 AM »
I would say that the proponents are users and legalizing it will introduce it to more children.
nothing good can come from it.  I can see medicinal use, but not recreational.

I wonder if these dopers ever stop and think about how God feels about it, and if they ever think about where they want to spend eternity??
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Re: 3 states to vote on recreational marijuana use.
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2012, 11:59:16 AM »
I think God's OK with it!
 
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon  the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree  yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. -- Genesis 1:29
 
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Re: 3 states to vote on recreational marijuana use.
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2012, 02:32:14 PM »
I would say that the proponents are users and legalizing it will introduce it to more children.
nothing good can come from it.  I can see medicinal use, but not recreational.
Are you thinkin' that Got is okay with medicinal use, but not with... recreational use? Hmmm... that would be an Odd God... doesn't make sense, unless he's just against joy, or sumthin' like that..

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I wonder if these dopers ever stop and think about how God feels about it, and if they ever think about where they want to spend eternity??
Does where one spends eternity have to do with whether or not a person smokes weed? Or, once their cancer went into remission, they quit smoking? Or if they enjoyed it while it was medicinal? What?
I guess while pondering on stop and thinking how God feels about it... we'd have to determine if we're asking God, or Jesus, or Jay-zuss.
I think he's probably okay with it... certainly it isn't a sin so seroius as the really important failings, like...  unkindness, gossip, bitterness, anger, or not loving your fellow man.
remember the Golden Rule, as enunciated by Jesus!
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2012, 02:34:56 PM »
To be a "real conservative" you must believe that:

Gun control = Government is bad! No amount of gun control laws will keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Gun control laws do not keep us safe. The less government in my life the better.

Drug control = Government is good! More drug control laws will keep drugs out of the hands of criminals. Drug control laws keep us safe. The more government in my life the better.
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Re: 3 states to vote on recreational marijuana use.
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2012, 03:52:08 PM »
I think God's OK with it!
 
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon  the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree  yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. -- Genesis 1:29
 
And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more. -- Ezekiel 34:29
 
"The Lord said unto me, 'I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs.' " -- Isaiah 18:4-5

 
TWO BLOCKED. HEH, I see where yer going but meat was FOOD, not smokes. The  hunger mentioned was not the munchies. POWDERMAN.  ;) ;)
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Re: 3 states to vote on recreational marijuana use.
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2012, 04:38:28 PM »
Where would one buy the stuff legally if this passes? could you grow your own?
Just asking. Seems there would be a lot of hurdles to overcome.

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Re: 3 states to vote on recreational marijuana use.
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2012, 04:58:50 PM »
To be a "real conservative" you must believe that:

Gun control = Government is bad! No amount of gun control laws will keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Gun control laws do not keep us safe. The less government in my life the better.

Drug control = Government is good! More drug control laws will keep drugs out of the hands of criminals. Drug control laws keep us safe. The more government in my life the better.
:o  Hypocracy :o  here?
 
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Re: 3 states to vote on recreational marijuana use.
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2012, 11:59:53 PM »
 I don't think anyone I know personally would start using the stuff if it became legal.
 
 I have no interest in smoking it, legal or illegal. Sure would be nice to wipe out the illegal trade though. Probably be a few less severed heads rolling around on the streets of Mexico. That's gotta be a good thing.
 
 If it became legal to grow in the US again, I imagine that the industrial uses would provide a boost to the economy. I'm sure by now they can genetically engineer the plants to have little drug value while enhancing other properties like fiber and fuel.
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Re: 3 states to vote on recreational marijuana use.
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2012, 12:15:46 AM »
I don't see how any could bring morality/salvation/Godliness into this conversation with any amount of REAL thinking.
I guess fear is a real answer to those who think in this manner on this matter.
I fear snakes, spiders, sharks and people who don't think but only listen to the propaganda of those who wish to control.
Anybody who wishes can--maybe, will--abuse anything. I refuse to live my life in fear of what can happen. There is just no liberty of living in fear----do cut the cards haowever.
I kill spiders and snakes--when I catch them in my immediate presence--so don't use this as an arguement. I have been around dopers--as some call them--and some of you boys may have been around me. I don't fear them or the weed.
I suspose that someone here will bring up drunk driving---just think about it when you present your thoughts.
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