coyote calling

[MF]

Chris,
Go to www.varmintal.com and go to the coyote section. He has an assortment of downloadable sounds along with a ton of info. Mike

[Glanceblamm]

Chris
I had put off replying to your post because I knew that  any day you were going to report success here.

The first thing that caught my attention that might prevent this is your saying that there is two of you hunting. This in it's self can be alot to get by with.
It would definatly mean No Talking.

Second was: I have been out a couple times. (this might take seven to ten times out)

Also..Allow time for the area to quiet down. (try 20 to 30 min before call)
Dont Slam the car doors. (the car is out of sight, Isn't it?)
Dont walk across an area that the Yote might use when circling your location.

And above all, Patience!
Your success here is just a matter of time. You may get discusted one day and be doing a fawn bleat or a bird in distress when suddenly that yote will be looking you in the eye.

[Larry Gibson]

cknight98

Sounds like you and your partner have stumbled onto some fairly wise coyotes.  If you've set yourselves out where you have a good 360 degree view that also means the coyotes have a good view of you.  Time to change tactics; try to find some terrain with cover that allows them to get close to you.  Remember that wise coyotes will play the wind, circle and come in (if they are going to) from your down wind side.

You may also want to try an ambush.  One of you set up for the call waiting 15-20 minutes before starting.  The other one find a good place down wind where he can cover the likely places a coyote would travel when circling the caller.  He wants to be farther down wind of the area the coyote might travel.  Just be carefull of your fields of fire when using this technique.  This is the most successful technique or tactic I use when hunting with others.  sometimes we vary it if in rough terrain where the caller can get down low in a gully or bottom and the ambushers have good overwatch and fields of fire on all likely approches.  When an ambusher I have had coyotes come by me within feet when they are concentrating and moving on the call.

I also use an ambush a lot with an electronic call.  A delay on the tape allows me to get into ambush position.  Also when traveling seldom used roads in the back country we would slow down and observe for rabbit and coyote tracks.  If there was a dip or bend in the road in a likely area the passenger would turn the call on and set it alongside the road as the driver rolled to almost a stop.  We would then drive over the rise or around the bend out of sight and roll to a stop, dismount and proceed cautiously back until we had a good overwatch position of the call.  A two minute delay usually alowed for enough time to get into position.  The coyotes seemed to think a rabbit had been hit by the vehicle going past and would come running toward the call with little caution.  We always bat about 30+% with this technique.  

I know this road tactic is probably not applicable to your situation there on the farm but it just lets you know to be successful you must have several techniques or tactics to use and vary them according to the terrain, weather and however wise the coyotes are.

Larry Gibson

[Gregory]

Chris
I was going to respond to your post yesterday and tell you I've had the same results as you, but tonight here's what happened:

I've been trying for awhile to call in a coyote at the local conservation area.  I've seen sign there but didn't have any luck.  I went after work today and forgot my electronic caller so I had to use my mouth calls.  Only thing I saw up till 5PM was a deer.
I gave up calling and was just enjoying the warm evening at about 5:20PM I scanned the field with my binoculars and saw a rather large coyote about 150 yds out.  I started calling on the dying rabbit call and he started to come in right away.  At about 100 yds I switched to my squeeker and got the gun up.  I shot him at about 50 yds.  Used my TC Contender Carbine with a 22 Mag barrel (Have to use rim fires at this conservation area).  He jumped at the shot and bit at the wound, then ran across the field into the woods.
No blood trail.  I didn't find him before dark so I'll try to find him tomorrow.  Wish I could have used a .223.
First time I ever called one in though.
Hang in there Chris!!

[Wlscott]

When I am calling with a partner we always set up so that the shooter is anywhere from 50 to 100 yards down wind.  Coyotes will most always circle down wind from the caller to check him out.

Also, this time of the year it gets REAL hard to call coyotes in.  Two things contribute to this in my opinion.  It's late season, and have heard a lot of calls.  They're what we call educated, and believe me, some of 'em have PhD's at this point.  

The other factor is that they are breeding right now.  Most are paired up, and are real hard to bring in 'cause they're busy.  

Have you tried making coyote sounds?  Howling, barking  and yipping are some of the most effective sounds I have in my bag 'o tricks this time of the year.  Get you a good open reed call like the Tally Ho and listen to some taped sounds of coyotes.  It will help you this time of the year.

Other than that, keep trying and don't get discouraged.  They're a lot smarter than people give them credit for.  

And remember......If it was easy everybody would be doing it