Vice pres debate.

[dwalk]

When a wise person debates with a fool, the fool rages and laughs, and there is no peace and quiet." Proverbs 29:9.

^this is what it's all about.

joe biden and obama are in fear and act accordingly.

it staggers my imagination that people actually vote(ed) for this "Pair".

i HIGHLY RECOMMEND watching the movie "2016" about obama...it's an eye-opener...obama is an anti-white, anti-democracy, paranoid wanna-be dictator who sees the world as being "Unfair" to kenya and blacks as a whole and is trying to "Level the playing field" by eliminating capitalism and 'colonialism'...he wants all, but he and his ruling elite, to be in near poverty...make no mistake about it...he is NOT our friend...

[Hairy Chest]

When a wise person debates with a fool, the fool rages and laughs, and there is no peace and quiet." Proverbs 29:9.

^this is what it's all about.

joe biden and obama are in fear and act accordingly.

it staggers my imagination that people actually vote(ed) for this "Pair".

i HIGHLY RECOMMEND watching the movie "2016" about obama...it's an eye-opener...obama is an anti-white, anti-democracy, paranoid wanna-be dictator who see the world as being "Unfair" to kenya and blacks as a whole and is trying to "Level the playing field" by eliminating capitalism and 'colonialism'...he wants all but he annd his ruling elite to be in near poverty...make no mistake about it...he is NOT our friend...

Mitt Romney is the most anti-white candidate.  He puts Israel first over the U.S.  That is why Jews like him.  Everything Jews do is against white America.  So a vote for Romney is a vote against white America.   

[dwalk]

When a wise person debates with a fool, the fool rages and laughs, and there is no peace and quiet." Proverbs 29:9.

^this is what it's all about.

joe biden and obama are in fear and act accordingly.

it staggers my imagination that people actually vote(ed) for this "Pair".

i HIGHLY RECOMMEND watching the movie "2016" about obama...it's an eye-opener...obama is an anti-white, anti-democracy, paranoid wanna-be dictator who see the world as being "Unfair" to kenya and blacks as a whole and is trying to "Level the playing field" by eliminating capitalism and 'colonialism'...he wants all but he annd his ruling elite to be in near poverty...make no mistake about it...he is NOT our friend...

Mitt Romney is the most anti-white candidate.  He puts Israel first over the U.S.  That is why Jews like him.  Everything Jews do is against white America.  So a vote for Romney is a vote against white America.   

mitt romney is the ONLY chance America has to be pulled out of the nose dive it's in now..."Four more" of obama...we'll never see daylight again.

mitt romney has vowed to support israel in her stand for her survival as a nation...how is that 'anti-white'? i wasn't aware that israel is anti-white; when did that happen? please elaborate...

i cannot think of ONE time he's (mitt romney) come and and taken a stand against white america...can you refer to a source?


if you WANT HIGHER TAXES*, HIGHER ENERGY COSTS**, LESS FINANCIAL FREEDOM, MORE REGULATION OF EVERYTHING, FEWER JOBS, HIGHER HEALTH CARE COSTS...then obama is your man.

*the obamacare (AHCA) has 21 hidden tax increases in it. there is a 3.4% increase in IRA gains tax starting in 2013...a 3.8% tax on all real estate sales to begin in 2013...and...the bush tax cuts are to expire...that alone will be a 3% increase on the middle income family...and you obama fans want more?

**gasoline prices alone will kill this economy if not reeled in...obama WANTS energy costs to elevate to $8.00 per gallon and more...if you'll recall, his sec of energy, John Wu, said so on nationwide TV...

[two-blocked]

What does Pulitzer Prize winning PolitiFact say?
 
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/oct/11/fact-checking-vice-presidential-debate-between-joe/
 
 

[Hairy Chest]

When a wise person debates with a fool, the fool rages and laughs, and there is no peace and quiet." Proverbs 29:9.

^this is what it's all about.

joe biden and obama are in fear and act accordingly.

it staggers my imagination that people actually vote(ed) for this "Pair".

i HIGHLY RECOMMEND watching the movie "2016" about obama...it's an eye-opener...obama is an anti-white, anti-democracy, paranoid wanna-be dictator who see the world as being "Unfair" to kenya and blacks as a whole and is trying to "Level the playing field" by eliminating capitalism and 'colonialism'...he wants all but he annd his ruling elite to be in near poverty...make no mistake about it...he is NOT our friend...

Mitt Romney is the most anti-white candidate.  He puts Israel first over the U.S.  That is why Jews like him.  Everything Jews do is against white America.  So a vote for Romney is a vote against white America.   

mitt romney is the ONLY chance America has to be pulled out of the nose dive it's in now..."Four more" of obama...we'll never see daylight again.

mitt romney has vowed to support israel in her stand for her survival as a nation...how is that 'anti-white'? i wasn't aware that israel is anti-white; when did that happen? please elaborate...

i cannot think of ONE time he's (mitt romney) come and and taken a stand against white america...can you refer to a source?


if you WANT HIGHER TAXES*, HIGHER ENERGY COSTS**, LESS FINANCIAL FREEDOM, MORE REGULATION OF EVERYTHING, FEWER JOBS, HIGHER HEALTH CARE COSTS...then obama is your man.

*the obamacare (AHCA) has 21 hidden tax increases in it. there is a 3.4% increase in IRA gains tax starting in 2013...a 3.8% tax on all real estate sales to begin in 2013...and...the bush tax cuts are to expire...that alone will be a 3% increase on the middle income family...and you obama fans want more?

**gasoline prices alone will kill this economy if not reeled in...obama WANTS energy costs to elevate to $8.00 per gallon and more...if you'll recall, his sec of energy, John Wu, said so on nationwide TV...

Israel is the home nation for Jews.  Jews support everything that is bad for whites here at home.  Open borders, wars in the Middle East, gay rights, removing Christian symbols, etc.  The question is what is it the Jews do that helps whites?  Nothing at all.   

[Hairy Chest]

[briarpatch]

Harry chest, how many high level jews does O have in his cabinet that are pulling his strings? Begin with axlerod......
When you finish the list you should know you are barking up the wrong tree.

[hillbill]

Biden looked more like an enraged school bully who instead of acting mature , wanted to go out back and engage in a fist fight .  It is a typical sign of immaturity and low self worth .
And it all was text book Biden , in the past he has threatened to punch people in the nose or give them a black eye if they disagree with him.  It came as no surprise to me whatsoever , he is an embarrassment to the office he holds as much as his boss is .
He comes out right off the bat with being rude and obnoxious in order to catch the better man off
guard .  Aided by the MSM as usual , it only shows that the left has nothing to stand on as far as the truth or any real substance . In four years they both have pushed their weight around ,
trashed the Constitution , bad mouthed our millitary personel ,and we are more hated now than ever before over seas.

thats how i saw it too. biden was juvenile and rediculous.over eager, interrupting,spouting lies, shaking his head and making faces when  ryan did get a chance to talk. it just seems biden and his boss have no respect for anyone.
 
ryan to me seemed young looking, which is not bad, he was calm and collected. he stood bidens crap well and tried to explain his points when he got the chance.and if yu listened to him he made sense.biden didnt. one thing is yu can not giv a def date for leaveing afganistan.its crazy to even think that.in the first place you dont give your enemies warning of anything.
i think ryan did well

[hillbill]

wow, shud of read all the posts before i participated in this thread. didnt know it had become jew bashing.please delete all my posts
 

[ironglow]

No doubt who the star was....

[Hairy Chest]

Harry chest, how many high level jews does O have in his cabinet that are pulling his strings? Begin with axlerod......
When you finish the list you should know you are barking up the wrong tree.

There are plenty of leftist Jews in Obama's camp that favor open borders, gay rights, removal of Christian symbols, etc.  But at least they appear to go along with letting diplomacy work on foreign policy.  That makes the Obama Administration the lessor of evil. 

What do all these whites that support Romney think he is going to do?  If Romney is managed by the same Jews that ran the Bush Administration, then what good will come for white America?  Nothing! If anything you will get more foreign wars, huge debt and budget cuts that will hit Americans in every walk of life.  Plus, you will get the same agenda pushed by the lefty Jews, open borders, gay rights, removal of Christian symbols, affirmative action, etc.

[ChungDoQuan]

What I saw was Joe getting in jabs and laughing at Ryan's vague statements. As to the interruptions, Joe said it early on, when Ryan told him to stop interrupting--- Biden immediately said, "Then stop going over your time." That was a big contrast to the Romney/Obama debate where Romney just dominated and bulldozed over Obama and Lehrer. I think Ryan intended to do the same thing, and instead was forced into the chastened puppy role. Ol' Joe's cagy, too--- he took every opportunity to remind Ryan (and the viewers) that HE had the experience and had actually done the things he talked about, while the Ryan/Romney pair is talking conjecture on all their premises. As far as the debate, Biden was a marginal winner, due primarily to the Ryan audience's wanting to back their man, no matter how vague and incorrect his statements were. Unlike Obama last week, Biden made sure to remind the viewers of things like the 47% comment, the failed trickle-down theory, and the Bubs' insistance that the numbers were "cooked" on unemployment and job creation. It reminded me of the Rand Paul appearance on Letterman--- Letterman acted the fool and proved Paul WAS one. In the same way, Biden's clowning, albeit overdone, was his way to rattle Ryan into saying things he could not substantiate, and was generally successful.

[jimster]

I'm not sure what other people saw, but it seems to me you don't win a debate with lies....and Biden told some big ones, one of which should, really get your goat...he said he did not vote for the wars. Congressional records says he did indeed vote for the wars. First one he voted for was September 14th, 2001 authorizing the use of force...
Now we all can debate forever who won the debate, but I can't see any debate being won with outright lies, so therefore in my view, all based on substance, Biden lost real big, and lying about sending our troops to war pretty much the worst thing you can do. I expect a politician to lie about numbers and most all facts...but not on what you voted for, it's congressional record. So for those who say Biden won the debate, that can't really have anything to do with substance or ethics...your just saying he was a bull in a china shop and did that well,  and if you think that wins debates, you need to stop watching them, your not listening to a damn thing, your looking at something else.
He actually started lying at the very beginning, when he said nobody at our embassies were asking for more security...after that the lies kept flowing, but lying about sending your troops to war unforgivable in my eyes, so anything else he said must have been a lie as well.
Biden lost in the eyes of anyone who listened to him, he may have won if you don't mind the lies and look at other things, but really nothing else matters, debates are worthless if the facts don't matter.  But like everything else they have wrecked, now I guess they wrecked what a debate is too...what the hell...I guess anyone can win a debate now eh? No facts needed...and even some on here are going along with it.
The Vice president was representing us and the country and his party, in fact, I was embarrassed as hell. We all should be.

[Hairy Chest]

What I saw was Joe getting in jabs and laughing at Ryan's vague statements. As to the interruptions, Joe said it early on, when Ryan told him to stop interrupting--- Biden immediately said, "Then stop going over your time." That was a big contrast to the Romney/Obama debate where Romney just dominated and bulldozed over Obama and Lehrer. I think Ryan intended to do the same thing, and instead was forced into the chastened puppy role. Ol' Joe's cagy, too--- he took every opportunity to remind Ryan (and the viewers) that HE had the experience and had actually done the things he talked about, while the Ryan/Romney pair is talking conjecture on all their premises. As far as the debate, Biden was a marginal winner, due primarily to the Ryan audience's wanting to back their man, no matter how vague and incorrect his statements were. Unlike Obama last week, Biden made sure to remind the viewers of things like the 47% comment, the failed trickle-down theory, and the Bubs' insistance that the numbers were "cooked" on unemployment and job creation. It reminded me of the Rand Paul appearance on Letterman--- Letterman acted the fool and proved Paul WAS one. In the same way, Biden's clowning, albeit overdone, was his way to rattle Ryan into saying things he could not substantiate, and was generally successful.

Like you said, the reason polls show Ryan "winning" is because more Republicans watched the debate than Democrats, and they will favor the Republican candidate going in.  But an objective observer without bias will conclude that Biden ran the debate.  Ryan was always on the defensive.  Interesting how the media criticized Obama for being too polite, then when Biden makes the adjustment and acts aggressive the same media says he was a "bully".  It is no surprise to me why the media are all falling over themselves for Romney/Ryan.   

[two-blocked]

[BBF]

IMO  The thought of Biden ( loose cannon ) being a heart beat away from the Presidency is downright scary. The possibility that Ryan( inexperienced) would be in the same position if Romney wins doesn't make me sleep any easier. 

[magooch]

Actually it was Obama who claimed he was too polite during his debate with Romney.
 
Jimster is right; these debates should be about policy and facts.  If all you've got is boisterous lies and inaccurate facts, I guess you have to act like a twelve year old.  I think there should be an instant lie detector with a horn that goes off whenever a lie is detected.  Of course that would mean that the Dumycrats would have a very hard time trying to speak above the horn.

[BBF]

So who would run the Horn and more importantly who decides what is a lie and what isn't.

[jimster]

So who would run the Horn and more importantly who decides what is a lie and what isn't.

A matter of Congressional record on how someone voted should be an easy one to get the horn to go off.  Then the moderator could say "that's a lie Vice president Biden"....you did indeed vote for war, it's right here on record. "that's also a lie Vice president Biden, they have sworn testimony in front of congress they did ask for more security"...you could go on and on with what is on record as the truth.  The horn would have blown many times. 
The important thing here is your debates have no meaning anymore, it is all boiling down to something entirely different than the facts. Biden was an embarrassment and and outright liar, even the people that say he won the debate have to admit he's a liar...and that is pretty sad, and reinforces my comment that these debates are worthless and mean nothing. 

Joe Biden represents the democrat party and the progressive socialists...they are one and the same, and the fact the republicans are not far behind these crazy people does not help matters one bit for the few of us who seek the truth and logic in government.  The only thing you have had under this government is damage control, lies, and power grabs and it's so far gone you can't even DEBATE it because the facts hold no more weight than your dollar does. We all should be worried about where are are these days.

[LONGTOM]

Well let's see where we are at here.
 
You can't bash Biden but you can bash Jews?
You can't bash THE LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE,  a black but you can bash the Mormon, a white?
 
It's OK for Biden to sit there and make stupid faces and smart A$@ comments and interupt someone as long as it is the DEM that is is doing it !!!
 
If Ryan kept running over his time so much then why was it that he had a little over 40 minutes and Biden had a little over 41 minutes?
 
The difference between THE LIARs debate with Romney and the debate between Biden and Ryan is that Romney didn't sit there and make a A$@ of himself while THE LIAR was talking!!!
 
If the media is so on Ryans side why are they called THE LIBERIAL PRESS?
 
Man, what a bunch of hypocrites!!!

 
 
LONGTOM
 

[Hairy Chest]

So who would run the Horn and more importantly who decides what is a lie and what isn't.

A matter of Congressional record on how someone voted should be an easy one to get the horn to go off.  Then the moderator could say "that's a lie Vice president Biden"....you did indeed vote for war, it's right here on record. "that's also a lie Vice president Biden, they have sworn testimony in front of congress they did ask for more security"...you could go on and on with what is on record as the truth.  The horn would have blown many times. 
The important thing here is your debates have no meaning anymore, it is all boiling down to something entirely different than the facts. Biden was an embarrassment and and outright liar, even the people that say he won the debate have to admit he's a liar...and that is pretty sad, and reinforces my comment that these debates are worthless and mean nothing. 

Joe Biden represents the democrat party and the progressive socialists...they are one and the same, and the fact the republicans are not far behind these crazy people does not help matters one bit for the few of us who seek the truth and logic in government.  The only thing you have had under this government is damage control, lies, and power grabs and it's so far gone you can't even DEBATE it because the facts hold no more weight than your dollar does. We all should be worried about where are are these days.

Don't mislead.  They all voted for war.  So did the liberal media and NY Times!  It is not how they voted then.  It is what they would do now.  It is wrong, outrageous and extremist to say we should stay there and put in more troops.   

[nw_hunter]

Lets get back on topic and stay there.............This isn't about bashing Jew's , Black's, Whites or any other ethnic or religious  group.

[jimster]

Don't mislead.  They all voted for war.

You telling me not to mislead? Biden is the one who lied about not voting for war, I got nothing to do with misleading anyone. The vice president of the United States of America lied outright on national TV and nobody hardly blinked.  I'm not as upset about the fact that he told a huge lie as much as the fact nobody blinked and it seems nobody cares. Seems to me the people on the side of the liar are hypocrites in the worst way.
Nobody should support a liar or the lie no matter what side of the fence your on, it's wrong to lie, especially after you spent 40 years in D.C. as a public servant on my dollar and have nothing to show for it but massive debt, needless wars, open borders and corruption. 
Biden is the sum total of what our government has become.  A big lie.
   

[Anna]

Don't mislead.  They all voted for war.

You telling me not to mislead? Biden is the one who lied about not voting for war, I got nothing to do with misleading anyone. The vice president of the United States of America lied outright on national TV and nobody hardly blinked.  I'm not as upset about the fact that he told a huge lie as much as the fact nobody blinked and it seems nobody cares. Seems to me the people on the side of the liar are hypocrites in the worst way.
Nobody should support a liar or the lie no matter what side of the fence your on, it's wrong to lie, especially after you spent 40 years in D.C. as a public servant on my dollar and have nothing to show for it but massive debt, needless wars, open borders and corruption. 
Biden is the sum total of what our government has become.  A big lie.
 

And they are not even good at it , nor convincing !  They lie like kindergardeners, to where only a complete fool would ever believe anything they say . 

[Spirithawk]

Can I just write at the bottom of the ballot, " NONE OF THE ABOVE! " ? Having to constantly settle for the lessor of two evils does nothing for me!

[Anna]

Ja ! Unt dis Biden iz such a girly boy ! Yu can tell dis by his flabby biceps ! 

[Hairy Chest]

Lets get back on topic and stay there.............This isn't about bashing Jew's , Black's, Whites or any other ethnic or religious  group.

The intent wasn't to bash any race.  It was only to respond to the idea that Obama is anti-white.  Really?  That by itself implies Romney is pro-white, which was explained how it's not the case.  Does race matter?  It does to the President of the U.S.  See video on African-Americans for Obama.  Even better, look at decades of affirmative action policies.  Those are guided by race.  Likewise, there are many racial groups that lobby for their special interests.  They are lobbying day and night on Capital Hill.  So what is European American's problem?  If others can do it, so must we.  But if European Americans lobby for their race, we hear howling and squeals from other groups.  Do you know why that is?  That is because if European Americans do as others do, formulate their own voting block of "whites", those other groups will be in big trouble.      

[SHOOTALL]

Can I just write at the bottom of the ballot, " NONE OF THE ABOVE! " ? Having to constantly settle for the lessor of two evils does nothing for me!

If lessor of two evils makes you disappointed just consider they are the best the only super power on earth has to offer and get sick thinking about it .

[magooch]

Who gets to decide what falls under the label of "lesser of two evils?"  It's easy to sit there and think that you were ordained to decide who is the lesser and who would be a superior candidate.  Our system doesn't work that way.  We all are supposed to get one vote in the primaries and one vote in the general and I didn't see anyone running under the heading of "not a lesser of two evils."  My first choice didn't make the ballot for the next step, but I'm not going to take my marbles and leave the game and belittle others who at least will try to get rid of the awful, horrid mistake that was made in the last Presidential election.

[dwalk]

wow, shud of read all the posts before i participated in this thread. didnt know it had become jew bashing.please delete all my posts

^i agree...and God said to Israel: "I will curse those who curse you and bless those who bless you."