Author Topic: Damned coyotes! (Read 8277 times)

Sourdough · « **Reply #30 on:** October 22, 2012, 07:39:41 PM »

CW is back on the East Coast. The Coyotes they have back there are not the same Coyotes we got out West. National Geographic did a study on them a few years back. Moving East they crossed with Red Wolves, and the results are a heavier stronger animal with heavier and more powerful jaws. A single Coyote on the East Coast is capable of pulling down a mature Whitetail. Yet they often run in groups of two to four animals, sometimes more if food is plentiful. As much of the deer that was eaten I would say it was at least four animals. I don't think two would not have cleaned up that much meat in 24 hours.

When I lived in New Mexico we had them all around the stables where I kept my horses. Those Coyotes loved the cats young women would bring out there to be mousers at the barn. We always had them hanging around our catch operations as we rounded up wild cattle. After we lost a couple of dogs that went out chasing Coyotes, the rest decided real fast they needed to stay in camp at night. After dark you could not drive one of those cow dogs out of camp. One big Boxer was a slow learner, he came back twice all tore up. The second time I thought he was a gonner for sure, but the base vet was able to save him. After that he stayed in camp at night. During the day he did not stray far from the Wranglers. He was ruined as a locator dog.

twoshooter · « **Reply #31 on:** October 27, 2012, 04:12:37 AM »

The only predator that has no natural control is the apex one, the one that only has one true predatory competitor..... himself. We have even eliminated most diseases as threats. And though we have killed millions, the birth rate remains too high. For some reason, it is not fashionable to admit that the really thrilling hunt ..... is for one another. We are also the only species (as far as I know) that has reversed evolutionary tendencies/ directions by siphoning off resources from the most successful examples, and transferring them to those that otherwise would not have survived. I wonder sometimes just how close we are to becoming totally outside of nature, where we could exist on some culture grown in a petri dish. Remember Soylent Green? Taco Bell and the "pink slime". Those of us a bit more "primitive" are dying off, and though I won't, it would be interesting to see us (mankind) in another century or two.

mechanic · « **Reply #32 on:** October 27, 2012, 01:16:54 PM »

Went woods walking to look over some potential hunting land yesterday, and carried only my 357 revolver. A nice broad road goes through the property, and about a quarter mile in, my buddy punched my shoulder and pointed ahead. About 100 yards up were two coyotes. I hit between the first ones legs, quickly adjusted my aim and drilled the second. About 35 # female, with a scraggly coat. I looked her over, but she was so mangy I couldn't wait to get back to the truck and sterilize my hands!
Ben

cwlongshot · « **Reply #33 on:** November 01, 2012, 01:06:24 PM »

I spent almost three days at work with Hurricane Sandy...

Most of the time I was out on the property... Wind howling, rain falling and COYOTES!!! Saw five, in total, twice I caught them watching me! I only had a side arm so unless they where with in say 50 yards, they where safe from me...

I spoke with some of the grounds people also, three more carcasses, stripped to the bone, have been disposed of in the past two weeks...

CW

JonnyReb · « **Reply #34 on:** November 01, 2012, 03:14:10 PM »

This is a bad and tiny picture of a wolf dog thing that went by one of my deer cameras a few years ago. 30 seconds before this pic snapped he was lying in a clump of brush watching me sight down on his head with a scoped 12ga. He was lying beside my 4 wheeler trail and stood out like a sore thumb against the snow. He never moved till I sighted on his head. He loped off and I just stood there like an amazed dumba**. Went right by my camera. The following year or two later my dogs found/killed? a black pup maybe 8 weeks old. Looked like a tiny version of the wolf dog. "Sourdoughs" above post about eastern coyotes mixed with wolves made me think about this critter. I don't know what it was mixed with but it was a very large animal. I often think about it when getting out of my stand at dusk. J

BBF · « **Reply #35 on:** November 02, 2012, 05:15:52 AM »

We lost one of our pups two days ago by what we think was a coyote(s) right on the property.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #36 on:** November 05, 2012, 04:02:43 AM »

About 30 minutes after daybreak yesterday a coyote was looking for a pheasant breakfast along the fence line west of my house. Saw three roosters moving about 50 yards ahead of the coyote. The coyote flushed a hen and did an impressive flying leap but missed it. I could not attempt to shoot it at that location due to the possibility of duck hunters in the background at my watershed. Did set off a firecracker just to let it know I didn't like it there.
GuzziJohn

cwlongshot · « **Reply #37 on:** November 17, 2012, 06:06:25 AM »

Thursday I took a walk after work, I saw tons of tracks and alot of scat, but no yotes.

Try are using a drainage ditch as a travel corodor, so I have a spot that may funnel them if I can find a good stand spot. I have a couple safe coradors to shoot. If I can get up in a tree it will be even safer.

This AM, I walked thru same spot... They killed another deer...

I made a little video of the tracks in the ditch... (Click the pic to watch)

CW

JonnyReb · « **Reply #38 on:** November 18, 2012, 03:32:23 AM »

This thread has helped me to put 2 + 2 together on several fronts relating to coyotes. I knew they were here, saw a few while hunting, caught a few on deer cams. Last month my cat disappeared and my dogs go crazy about 10:30-12 EVERY night. I wondered if it was coyotes coming back for another easy meal but if i'd step out i'd never see a thing. I've been hunting whitetails behind my house after several years of being gone, and the herd has changed. No small deer, very few does and all I have seen are bigger deer, for the first time ever more bucks than does. There is very light hunting pressure in this urban area of N.C. In spite of all I mentioned I didn't put our coyote problem in true perspective. Last night the dogs went crazy early, about 8pm, and I stepped onto the front porch with my big LED spotlight. Did a sweep across the entire woodline 50yards across the road and was shocked to see 6? pairs of BRIGHT green eyes all light up. 4 immediately blinked out and 2 remained. I watched them blink and move, dip and wink for over a minute. I stepped in and motioned to my wife, she stepped out and the eyes were still there. I went back in to grab a rifle and they finally left. No doubt at all now whos visiting nightly. Its weird feeling like theres a pack of freaking wolves circling my house, casing the joint as they look for an opportunity to grab my littler dogs, my remaining cat or my chickens. I am very thankful for my fenced yard. I have not put my plan together yet on ridding myself of this particular pack but I think i'd better figure it out soon. J

Spanky · « **Reply #39 on:** November 18, 2012, 02:38:56 PM »

Sourdough is right about the coyotes here in the Eastern states. CW is in Pennsylvania (if I remember correctly) and I am in upstate NY. The coyotes here are larger than western coyotes by far. I've shot a couple large male coyotes. One weighed 57 lbs. and one weighed right at 60 lbs. That's a big dog by any means... especially a coyote. I'm in agreement with CW when it comes down to it... I don't like them, I don't like the way they kill and I'll shoot them every chance I get.

Spanky

streak · « **Reply #40 on:** November 18, 2012, 04:56:37 PM »

I have them right here in my neighborhood in Aurora, Colorado!
On several occassions I have been walking the bloodhound and come upon these varmints at ranges of 35 to 50 yards and sometimes even closer. These coyotes are not to afraid of people and I have now found the den area. I came upon five coyotes one evening hanging around the den area. These were about 3/4 grown, and I had seen the old female a week earlier in the same area. I guess some state trappers or some one else had set up a sophisticated trap but these coyotes were to wise to be caught. I watch my "P`s & Q`s" when I am out walking the hound and also carry my 5 1/2 foot solid hickory walking stick! That walking stick is quite a formidable weapon!! A real skull basher. I could have a heyday if shooting was allowed in the city limits with my 12 gauge shotguns and #4 Buck!!

cabledad · « **Reply #41 on:** November 19, 2012, 01:55:19 AM »

I lost a good cat right here at the edge of town in a subdivision to coyotes.The ranch hand on the place behind us killed 2 coyotes last month ,they got hard to find for a awhile. I want one of thos hi powered air rifles with a night scope. I know the hogs will be right behind them.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #42 on:** November 20, 2012, 01:11:19 AM »

I took a quick walk this am before work... They struck again!!!

They strip it clean in a single night, I gotta have a den near by because this is gonna take multiple animals and they are eating GOOD!

CW

muznut 54 · « **Reply #43 on:** December 01, 2012, 07:37:55 AM »

I shot a deer late in the day a few years back and could not find it. I called a warden and asked if I could look for it in the dark ( they are kinda fussy about that with guns up here) and he said yes with no gun. Well anyway I found my deer and he was to big to move without gutting him and those yotes were circling me and howling like hell. Talk about spooky, I thought I might have to fight those suckers but they never attacked.

AtlLaw · « **Reply #44 on:** December 02, 2012, 04:06:19 AM »

Ya know, I had the same thing happen once!

The noise and seein' the eyes glow when hit with the beam from a flashlight... $:-\$ Yup spooky is a good word...

Now I ain't skeered a no coyote don't cha know... but ya got to watch out for them coyote/werewolf hybrids!

an zombies... and vampires...

I gotta stop watchin so much of the SciFi Channel...

cwlongshot · « **Reply #45 on:** December 08, 2012, 11:44:26 PM »

I need to get the perticulars but one of the guys hunting the property where we have this coyote problem texted me last night. Apparentyly he shot a very big coyote! It is a big dawg for sure!!

More when I can talk to him later today...

CW

bigvarmnt · « **Reply #46 on:** December 09, 2012, 03:42:29 AM »

cw, what caliber/cartridge put him/her down?

cwlongshot · « **Reply #47 on:** December 09, 2012, 08:22:33 AM »

Quote from: bigvarmnt on December 09, 2012, 03:42:29 AM

cw, what caliber/cartridge put him/her down?

A single 100g Hornady RN, W/40g 4320 powder from a Ultra 243 H&R. (My hand load)

I spoke with him just now, he weighed it on a fishing scale that goes to 50#... it maxed it out!!

He said it stinks to hi heaven!! (His words) and is gonna need a resperator to skin it out!! LOL

CW

streak · « **Reply #48 on:** December 09, 2012, 03:59:34 PM »

Looking at the picture, seems that it could be a hybrid or " coydog"!

theratdog · « **Reply #49 on:** December 09, 2012, 11:09:16 PM »

too many here in utah has decimated the deer here we are thinning them out 50 dollar bounty about 7 years late. the numbers have to be controlled .i had a lot of trouble with foxes and racoons shot a lot of them they are real hard on the bird population.

bigvarmnt · « **Reply #50 on:** December 10, 2012, 03:22:47 AM »

He does look like he's been eatin good. Prolly been in on cleanin them bones you been showin. I can't believe they been cleanin them that good and fast. I had a couple road killed deer out a few years ago and it took a while for them to be cleaned. Something was tryin to drag the carcasses into the woods. Maybe they go at it more when it's a fresh kill

Looks like there may be quite a few yotes working there. Kill em

Don't look like that bullet/load did a lot of damage to the fur

cwlongshot · « **Reply #51 on:** December 12, 2012, 07:11:47 AM »

After Timmy shot that big female Sat Am I decided maybe we should have a look at what's feeding here. So we threw out a deer carcass we shot and butchered.

Sunday AM retrieved pics. Got just us and 3-4 blurred pics... My camera appears to have STB...

So I moved the camera from the feeder on another property and found Walmart clearancing a 5MP Moultree camera for 50$. Now I have two cameras on the "bait". Got those up Monday AM. I just pulled the cards and we have three dogs. Two in one pic about mid nite Monday and a single dog early AM Tuesday. I'll post pics later when I can load them on lap top.

This last one was taken minutes after the single dog with the flash eyes.. I cant quite plce what it is... thinking the dogs back side as he walks by left to right. But thats a guess... at first I thought it was a does face... What do you think?

Saga continues....

cwlongshot · « **Reply #52 on:** January 04, 2013, 01:20:20 PM »

I have been getting allot of dogs on the trail cameras... deer pics are nearly non existant...

While camera III caught a poacher... (BTW< Time and date are wrong on this camera)

As well as more dogs..

Heading out in the AM... gonna be 20 degrees... I dont know how long it will be but Im going!

CW

muznut 54 · « **Reply #53 on:** January 08, 2013, 08:03:32 AM »

Its rare but believe it or not yotes have been trapped in the 70lb range in Maine.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #54 on:** January 08, 2013, 08:34:20 AM »

Quote from: muznut 54 on January 08, 2013, 08:03:32 AM

Its rare but believe it or not yotes have been trapped in the 70lb range in Maine.

I do not doubt that for one second!! I herd of a 80# shot near me but was not able to go see it. As I said I have a 63# male shot in NY state 20+ years ago!! Some five or six years back I shot three all went over 50#.

CW

squirrelslayer · « **Reply #55 on:** February 09, 2013, 10:10:59 PM »

Well although I've never taken the time to photograph it, some pics of my mutilated livestock sure make one wonder how on earth someone could show them much love. Then after I calm down I reason with the fact that they were here long before the livestock. I still have a hate for them and a understanding all the same. Few years back I quit hunting them in the high country and decided that there were plenty of trouble dogs down low. It's kind of different though, these valley dogs are lazy, stupid, and bold. It's more of coyote shooting than hunting.

AtlLaw · « **Reply #56 on:** February 10, 2013, 03:52:47 AM »

Quote from: squirrelslayer on February 09, 2013, 10:10:59 PM

It's more of coyote shooting than hunting.

Well, as far as I'm concerned, they ain't a darn thing wrong with coyote shooting! I'd make them extinct here in Jawja ifn I could!

But then, unlike your locale, they are a recent immigrant here.

mcbammer · « **Reply #57 on:** February 10, 2013, 05:34:17 AM »

I didnt believe that a dog & coyote would cross but I was proven wrong this past summer when my watch dog alerted me there was somthing in the edge of the back yard. I grabbed the 12 ga. pump I keep handy loaded with buck and lit that yote up. When I examined this thing , It looked more like a wolf . It had a coyote tail but with a white tip , legs where white . I estimate it weighed 50 lbs . comparing it to my dog. I wish I had taken a pic to prove what I believe was a true dog coyote cross.

Mike in Virginia · « **Reply #58 on:** February 10, 2013, 06:02:44 AM »

The VA Game biologists published an article recently indicating the coyotes are here to stay, and there's nothing that might be done to reduce the population, much less eliminate them. The article stated they reproduce in proportion to how many have died. I remember before they invaded the east that rabbits and grouse were not difficult to find, but now I seldom see either. No one in my area goes rabbit hunting anymore. A dedicated grouse hunter with a dog is lucky to flush one per day. Maybe the yotes are not responsible, but I believe they are.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #59 on:** February 11, 2013, 03:06:17 AM »

For us here in the NE. At least CT and so New York. Back in the '70's seldom is ever did you see s Turkey. Then in the early '80's they vehmgan to show up and so did the coyotes. Before that re fox where and an occasional Cougar was the biggest predatory animal around.
Now coyotes are everywhere.

We got hit hard with this last storm. We got close to four feet gets at work. I have been pulli g double shifts with 4-5 hrs rest and back at it and I. Four days not seen one dog... Very strange for up here. I saw deer on three occasions and they seem to be fording thru the slow fairly easy.

I agree the coyotes are here to stay...

CW