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Offline carlsflh

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scope ring height ?
« on: October 14, 2012, 01:24:17 PM »
what height rings do you use with a leupole 2x eer scope using leupold dual dovetail  base and rings  on a 14" 223 contender barrel ?

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Re: scope ring height ?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2012, 02:03:28 PM »
I use Mediums.  They are high enough that I do not need the dreaded and trouble causing hammer extension.

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Re: scope ring height ?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2012, 06:06:10 AM »
 
I have always preferred to mount scopes as low as I can on any firearm - that meaning what works best for me based on the particular firearm. So if it were me I'd be mounting the Leupold with low rings on your barrel.
 
Best for me on handguns being as low as the scope can mount and still clear the top highest point on them whether it be barrel or sights.    While I did buy and try out 2-3 hammer extensions on my Contenders, I didn't like or use them very long.   Just got used to getting in to the hammer no matter how close the scopes ocular bell was to it.   Was never a problem hunting or shooting hundreds of rounds target or plinking for me.    Just became part of my natural technique with them.   On long guns how they shouldered naturally for me and whether they hade a raised comb or not.   The rifle/scope should can to you, not you to it.   Stretching the neck or canting the head is not condusive to your best shooting.   
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Re: scope ring height ?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2012, 12:49:51 PM »
I use the lowest ones I can get, especially on the calibers that are "flat shooters"...

I do use hammer extension as it is so much easier to pull the hammer back when it is cold and wearing gloves...

I shoot right-handed so I put the extension on so it sticks out on the left side.  Right where the thumb on my right hand is when I am holding the handgun...

I've never had a problem with them and I have used them since my first Contender in the mid-70's or thereabout...

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Re: scope ring height ?
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2012, 05:07:38 AM »
On a pistol it doesn't really matter as there is no cheek weld to be concerned with. I like to mount mine high as I can work the hammer better without the use of a extension.   Mike

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Re: scope ring height ?
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2012, 05:34:37 AM »
On a pistol it doesn't really matter as there is no cheek weld to be concerned with. I like to mount mine high as I can work the hammer better without the use of a extension.   Mike

 I agree with you on both of those reasons…
 
But, on a flat-shooting cartridge such as the 223 or the 22-250, in the Contender or the Encore, I still like ‘scope as close the barrel as possible.  I use the lowest ring possible to still allow clearance with the front of the ‘scope and the bore…
 
The reason I do this is that it puts my line of sight closer to the trajectory of the bullet…
 
With a flat-shooter, there is little drop compared to a “club” that is being shot…
 
I get a lesser distance below line of sight for bullet impact when having a 200 yard zero or whatever distance I zero at...
 
I think if one exaggerates the height of the ring, say to 6” about the bore, you can see that to have a 200 yard zero, the angle the bullet exits the barrel has to be much great to achieve the height difference between line of sight and the actual target…
 
This allows for considerable more over hold until the bullet actually crosses the line of sight out to the zero target.  A small target then must have much hold over adjustment on the way to the zero target…
 
At 50 yards the bullet could be 3” below the actual crosshair placement as the bullet is still “climbing” to achieve the rainbow to hit on at 200 yards…
 
This can be important with small targets out to the zero target…
 
The closer the line of sight is to the bore, the less this adjustment must be made…
 
(This type of error correction is also needed with the side mount ‘scope mounting systems for the Model 94’s without angle eject—except the error is then left or right compensation)
 
Just my thoughts…
 
I want my line of sight to be as close to the bore as possible…
 
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