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Doubling up on deer
« on: October 17, 2012, 01:19:46 PM »
 I've always been kinda amazed at the number of times I read about a hunter who upon dropping a deer, remains in their stand and within a short period of time drops a 2nd.  I've never even considered this personally as i'm too pumped up to sit still following a shot, but i'd like to hear from those of you who have doubled up or who make a point of sitting for a period of time following a shot, even when you see your deer drop. Thanks in advance for your posts,. J
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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 01:26:27 PM »
i always wait.
usually 30+ - minutes.
a habit from bowhunting.


could be another chance at a shot,
but mainly to make sure the thing
has expired.  an acquaintance once
shot a deer in the north in slug country,
and it got that adrenaline shot and jumped
up was gone in the thick stuff. last one
i got still made a dozen yards or so with
mush for a heart.

18 MINUTES.  . . . . . .

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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2012, 01:37:08 PM »

No big deal.  Just stay in your stand and keep quiet.  It doesn't take that long for things to calm down.  Both Kansas and Missouri allow 1 buck only, so I always get down after a good rifle buck.  I've spent all year trying to get to that moment, and I'm going to enjoy it!

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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2012, 01:57:16 PM »
I've doubled up on does once, doubled up on bucks once, doubled up on coyotes once and watched my boy double up on does once ;D


Could have doubled up 2 more times that I remember but it was getting late and already had the knife out working on deer on the ground.



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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 01:17:13 AM »
I've done it a couple times, esp while running dogs... this 6p & spike taken about ten years ago (back when I still had the jeep). I'm a lot more likely to do it in the morning than evening when I'm by myself... too much trouble dragging two at night, and that's a lot of processing work later.

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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 05:35:45 PM »
 Well i'm going to try hard this year to sit still following a shot on a doe. If I take a buck it'll be a nice one or none at all, seems like i've heard over and over of hunters taking a buck whos tracking the doe they just shot. As my days in the woods will be fewer this year it could makethe difference between one or two deer taken. Thanks for ya'lls posts on this, sounds like theres been some great hunts. BTW, I agree, if I take an afternoon deer and it has to be tracked, one is plenty to be thankful for.  J
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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2012, 12:39:20 PM »
My grandfather, in a matter of 5 or so hours literally dropped one doe on another and a third doe about 10 yards away. This isnt one of 'grandpa's stories', I got to see/drag them.


If I remember correctly he said  the one doe was sniffing the dead carcass

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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2012, 01:04:19 PM »
On most occasions, shooting the dominant doe in a group of does will leave the others momentarily confused as their "Guide On" is acting irrationally inconsistent = dead.  The group will hesitate and search for another doe to dominate the moment before taking flight.  Finding none, they stand there.  The 2nd doe killed may or may not terminate the Stalemate.  If spotlighted, as in Wildlife Depredation instances or Research, it is not unusual to kill most of the deer in the group following the shooting of the dominant doe.

I have very often shot a buck/doe, doe/doe, or doe/buck combination within minutes to an hour of the first.

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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2012, 01:26:52 PM »
Not legal to do in WV, but if it was I'd be all over it. I can't count the times I could have. lol

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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2012, 05:06:02 PM »
I've done it once while watching a field close to my house. I shot one of the larger does out of a group of 7. Most of them ran all the way across but one stopped and I dropped it. Back at the house I called my cousin, who lived a half mile away, to come up and help load them. When he got there and we got to the field edge one of the other does had circled back and was standing close to the first doe. He shot her and we loaded up the three of them.

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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2012, 03:17:26 PM »
I stay put after dropping one, sometimes for several hours. It has paid off several times. Most of my hunting companions sit tight too. No need to disturb the hunting area for yourself and for your buddies.
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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2012, 04:15:42 PM »
i had a friend using my gun out of my treestand friday had a doe and a button buck walk out and they were lined up so he took a shot and it dropped them both dead where they stood with one shot gotta love the .45-70 one hell of a round
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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2012, 07:31:21 PM »
On most occasions, shooting the dominant doe in a group of does will leave the others momentarily confused as their "Guide On" is acting irrationally inconsistent = dead.  The group will hesitate and search for another doe to dominate the moment before taking flight.  Finding none, they stand there.  The 2nd doe killed may or may not terminate the Stalemate.

X2....my experience exactly on separate occasions

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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2012, 12:18:24 AM »
 Where we hunt, it is a couple fields and a pasture seperating woods. Taking a pair out of usually 5 or more does is frequent. Unless momma puts the hammer down and warns the freezer is near full ::)  Looking for a bigger freezer ;)
 
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2012, 04:36:48 AM »
I've doubled up on Huns, Chukar, Pheasant and Valley Quail. On big game in this state, it's illegal!

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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2012, 02:50:10 AM »
I remember one time I was hunting and saw a big doe and a spike buck. I shot the doe and she dropped in place the spike ran a big circle and stopped 2 yards from the tree I was sitting against. I poked him with the bbl of my gun and he ran about 10 yards and looked at me for a while but did not seem like he was going to leave. So I shot him as well, then I remembered it was a half mile drag back to the truck.
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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2012, 01:09:35 AM »
i had a friend using my gun out of my treestand friday had a doe and a button buck walk out and they were lined up so he took a shot and it dropped them both dead where they stood with one shot gotta love the .45-70 one hell of a round


Have had many occasions to do that. But never tried. Not sure it is legal in Indiana anyhoo. Our doubles are shooting one, then if another stops or hangs out we may take the second.


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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2012, 01:37:37 AM »
i had a friend using my gun out of my treestand friday had a doe and a button buck walk out and they were lined up so he took a shot and it dropped them both dead where they stood with one shot gotta love the .45-70 one hell of a round

I don't necessarily know about the "legality" of that where you are, but his ethics are certainly lacking in that.  Slob Hunters remain Slob Hunters regardless of the outcome.

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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2012, 01:08:20 AM »
I also always sit and wait at least 20-30 mins. When the deer drops in its tracks, even longer!

I remember the last one form a couple years back, I shot a nice, small 100class 8PT. I sat still because he was with a couple does and they did not see me. I wanted them to calmly walk away so as not to "ëdjucate" them of my presence. This took about 45 minutes. I walked over to my buck and began dressing... I herd a stick break, reached for my rifle and scanned the woods. (WITH EYES NOT SCOPE) lo and behold a small 4pt came walking in. I shot him too.



I have done this at least three seperate times.


Last year, my buddie took three...!!



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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2012, 01:16:03 AM »
i had a friend using my gun out of my treestand friday had a doe and a button buck walk out and they were lined up so he took a shot and it dropped them both dead where they stood with one shot gotta love the .45-70 one hell of a round

I don't necessarily know about the "legality" of that where you are, but his ethics are certainly lacking in that.  Slob Hunters remain Slob Hunters regardless of the outcome.

L.O., legality aside. (I for one like to think the guys here are above boards in this reguard) I feel this is a harsh judgment.  ::) ;)

 I am able to shoot something like 14 deer here in CT. If I hunt some zones and return for a tag after each harvest, there is NO LIMIT!!!

At the ranges I shoot most of my deer at I use pistol caliber rifles. BUT If I where to go and use my '06 or 280 or Whelen and had the oppertunity to drop two deer with one shot. I would take that shot!! I gaurenty any of those calibers (and many others) with god bullets will shoot completely thru at least two deer...

 Heck, I shot TWO deer with ONE ARROW once!!!! The second deer was head down behind the buck I wanted. I was flabbergasted when the "öther" deer ran in opposite direction of the buck!! The small doe (one behind buck) actually dropped first. I hit her in the ham, but completely severed the femorial artery. The buck went a bit farther, shot thru the lungs. BOTH where recovered.

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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2012, 01:34:40 AM »
look at my avatar. all done within two hrs on gamelands. Next morning my boy shot his first deer and after 30 min, he couldnt stand it so we got down. while looking at his deer, the biggest buck ive ever seen stepped out of woods and just looked at us from bout 50 ft. both guns were lying on the ground. we moved, he left in a hurry. If we'd a stayed put, coulda been on the wall. Shot 1 of two does yesterday with ML and almost had it reloaded before the other one spotted me. While dragging her out, i jumped two more. Last year my son and i were in a blind when i shot a doe with the ML. 45 min later my son shot one with a ML.Ive learned the hardway that if its legal where you live, to shoot straight on the first one, reload and sit tight, round two maybe on its way :D
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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2012, 09:14:52 AM »
L.O., legality aside. (I for one like to think the guys here are above boards in this reguard) I feel this is a harsh judgment.  ::) ;)
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CW, I stand by my remark as my ethic dictates to not shoot 2 with 1 on the valid concern that the projectile is no longer on a reliable trajectory after passing through the first deer, leaving the result to chance.  If I overstated my opinion by calling names, then for that, and only that, I apologize, being caught up in the moment of the response.

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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2012, 02:45:50 PM »
L.O., legality aside. (I for one like to think the guys here are above boards in this reguard) I feel this is a harsh judgment.  ::) ;)
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CW, I stand by my remark as my ethic dictates to not shoot 2 with 1 on the valid concern that the projectile is no longer on a reliable trajectory after passing through the first deer, leaving the result to chance.  If I overstated my opinion by calling names, then for that, and only that, I apologize, being caught up in the moment of the response.

this is my opinion on it it was a clean shot a bone is not going to change the path of the bullet when there a foot apart perfect broadside and not very far with a more than capable round your opinion is yours and everyone has a different way to look at it i respect your opinion though as for the doubling up i did it yesterday morning on gamelands myslef with 2 does
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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2012, 02:47:56 PM »
i had a friend using my gun out of my treestand friday had a doe and a button buck walk out and they were lined up so he took a shot and it dropped them both dead where they stood with one shot gotta love the .45-70 one hell of a round


Have had many occasions to do that. But never tried. Not sure it is legal in Indiana anyhoo. Our doubles are shooting one, then if another stops or hangs out we may take the second.


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im not sure if its legal there either i am from indiana ive shot 3 in a hour up there before but never had the chance to kill 2 at one time i could imagine it probably isnt legal with some of the dumb rules we have up there
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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2012, 04:16:43 AM »
I have doubled twice on does.  Once with a .45 LC Ruger Blackhawk a few years back and again last year during muzzleloader season.  I have had other opportunities, but did not take the second shot.
 
And a 2 for 1 is legal in Indiana as long as you have the tags to cover the two deer that were shot with one projectile.
 
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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2012, 05:12:23 AM »
In my many years of deer hunting, I've managed to 'double' twice.

One time was at the last day of the season and I had not killed a deer all season. Does were legal the last 3 days. I watched 7 does go into a small thicket near my lean-to stand-watched them waiting for a buck. No buck. Finally saw and shot a big ole doe and another stuck its head out and I took it. Two within about 5 seconds. (Rem 742 carbine in 30-06)


Second was a double on bucks. I saw a small spike sneaking past my box stand and shot it with my TC 30-30 handgun. Bam-flop. Thinking I was done, I stood to holster my handgun and saw a 6-point sneaking away from the fracus. I shot him with my M98 based 25-06. Two bucks within about half a minute.

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Re: Doubling up on deer
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2012, 10:47:21 AM »
I'm Jealous of you guys! I've shot 2 deer in the last 4 years. I have only seen 1 deer this year so far. Since all  the new houses went up on the land that I hunt, the deer population has been almost nonexistent. After all these years of hunting I believe this will be my last. Best of luck to all of you and be safe. :)