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Offline Buckskin

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Primer Failure
« on: October 22, 2012, 01:31:08 PM »
Was shooting yesterday with my 300 RUM and 204 at 200 to 500 yards, and actually the 204 was holding it's own at 500, easy 5mph x-wind though.  But, the bummer of it was I had a primer failure, first one ever. Pulled the bulllet and pushed the primer out and took it apart and it seemed no different than the one I sacrificed to compare. It was a Rem 9 1/2M.  I've been reloading for over 10 years and never had one before, and not thrilled about it. I have over 800 left in the brick and the last thing I want when out hunting is to be thinking about primers...
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Re: Primer Failure
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 01:40:16 PM »
Pretty rare happening. The odds of it happening again in only 800 primers are pretty much slim to none. I wouldn't worry about it. I will say that Remington has been having some quality problems for the last couple of years. They say they're working them out, hope that's the case.
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Re: Primer Failure
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2012, 02:51:00 PM »
Next time that happens try it again. Sometimes a primer doesn't get fully seated and the first blow from the firing pin seats it deep enough, and if that doesn't knock the anvil loose it'll go the second time.
And once in a great while we inadvertantly get a primer contaminated with oil from anywhere from our fingers to case lube..
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Re: Primer Failure
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2012, 03:26:02 PM »
I did pull the trigger on it a second time, with no bang. If it was contaminated it wasn't on my end...
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Re: Primer Failure
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2012, 03:57:52 PM »
find someone to trade off 10 or 20
or ? primers for a different brand and
try 'em just to ease your mind. i've
only had 1 ftf since i've been reloading,
and it was not fully seated and when i had
first started. i've never used any remingtons
either, so i can't speak there.
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Re: Primer Failure
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2012, 01:52:15 AM »
I have some very old winchester large rifle primers , how old I don't know  they were given to me. I loaded a few rounds with them and now my velocity was all over the place and my groups also. I loaded a few more ,everything the same except new CCI primers. Everything went back normal. I tossed the old primers.
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Re: Primer Failure
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2012, 12:19:03 AM »
i don't like  Remington primer's and there 22lr ammo :P
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Re: Primer Failure
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2012, 03:26:58 AM »
About all I use is Remington's for all of my reloading. I do use BR-4 for my 204, other than that it's all remington.  Primers are the one component that I've never found to be vastly different from brand to brand, other than cup thickness. I know other will disagree, but that is what I have found. I use BR for the little calibers because they are supposed to be more uniform in charge. I guess I will just keep doing as I was doing and hope that they all go bang from here on out, as CRAZY as that may sound to some... ::)
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Re: Primer Failure
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2012, 03:50:30 AM »
Sounds like a plan to me. If your loads are all based on a specific brand of primer, no point in changing.
 All brands get a ftf once in awhile, the reasons can be many. I use mostly CCI, and it's not been that long ago that every internet expert there ever was or could be , making the claim CCI's  were no good due to the high percentage of ftf's. But I guess that must of been a problem that only affected the few as there were lots of us that never noticed it being a problem....
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Re: Primer Failure
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2012, 05:38:10 AM »
When I started reloading many years ago, after reading manuals and spending my hard-earned money on equipment and components, my very first ever reload failed to fire! Talk about an oh s**t moment! The other 19 all worked, and I haven't had a failure since that was the primers fault.
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Re: Primer Failure
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2012, 06:42:12 AM »
Quote from: davem270win on October 24, 2012, 05:38:10 AM
When I started reloading many years ago, after reading manuals and spending my hard-earned money on equipment and components, my very first ever reload failed to fire! Talk about an oh s**t moment! The other 19 all worked, and I haven't had a failure since that was the primers fault.

 
 I can only imagine what was going through your mind... Good to get it over with right away though!!!
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Re: Primer Failure
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2012, 05:16:07 AM »
Last FTF I had I took the cartridge out of the chamber and rotated it so it had a new place to strike.  Went off, I don't know of it was a poorly seated primer or a weak strike from H & R's new hamer spring rate.  I have heard of hang fires which would really be a pain, but never witnessed one.
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Re: Primer Failure
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2012, 05:45:57 AM »
A hang crossed my mind when I opened the bolt and didn't really like the idea of it going off in my face... I've never had one either but I think generally a hang fire is more like a traditional muzzleloader going off.
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