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Sixty-three %: Isolationist
« on: October 25, 2012, 05:01:26 PM »
LA Times article:

"It has been an article of faith of Republican and Democratic administrations for five decades that America should be deeply involved in the Middle East to help protect Israel, to safeguard sources and shipments of oil, and to maintain peace in a region beset by constant tumult.But a Pew Research Center poll this month found that 2 out of 3 Americans believe the United States should be less involved with leadership changes in the Middle East. Fewer than 1 in 4 said it should be more involved. Some 57% said it was more important to have stable governments in the region, even if that meant less democracy."

"To be sure, some Americans remain deeply committed to a fully engaged foreign policy, including advocates for improved trade, human rights, a strong defense and allies with strong ties to the United States, such as Israel. Their supporters lobby on Capitol Hill and provide important political and financial support to candidates.
But polls show the issue is not a high priority for most voters

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-foreign-policy-isolation-20121025,0,4401271.story
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Re: Sixty-three %: Isolationist
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2012, 01:28:42 PM »
Phony premise from the outset! The above is NOT Isolationist sentiment. It's Non-intervention Thinking. Two completely different things.

But the use of "Isolationist" stirs more angst. ::)
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Re: Sixty-three %: Isolationist
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2012, 05:33:52 AM »
Americans did care about Israel.  They were brainwashed over decades to do so.  The polls though do reflect an increasingly informed populace that rejects a failed foreign policy.  Their good feelings about Israel has now been refuted and contradicted by real events and the facts. 
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Re: Sixty-three %: Isolationist
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2012, 02:33:54 PM »
Quote from: TM7 on October 27, 2012, 05:52:37 AM
Quote from: Hairy Chest on October 27, 2012, 05:33:52 AM
Americans did care about Israel.  They were brainwashed over decades to do so.  The polls though do reflect an increasingly informed populace that rejects a failed foreign policy.  Their good feelings about Israel has now been refuted and contradicted by real events and the facts.
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 Let's not forget that Mitt and Bibi are great friends...both worked together after business college at I believe The Boston Capital Firm...or some name like that.....which was another finance and asset stripping operation.
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Even if Mitt never knew Bibi, he'd be bending over for Israel like all Republicans do except Ron Paul.  Remember, this is supposed to be the election for President of the U.S.  Why does a foreign nation matter so much to so many traitors? 
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Re: Sixty-three %: Isolationist
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2012, 07:14:16 AM »
You mention evangelical Christians.  I was watching TBN the other day and they had an interesting documentary about the history of Israel.  Did any Christians see that documentary?  A jew who evidently had some knowledge was interviewed.  He said everybody thinks the greatest contribution to Israel was the American aid it  received.  He said that is not true.  The greatest contribution, he said, Israel has received is the intellectual capital Israel received from the U.S.S.R.! 

He is correct.  Jews were a dominant elite in the U.S.S.R. They had jobs, positions and 'intellectual capital.'  It is interesting that evangelicals support a nation many of whose members were elites in the greatest Christian persecuting nation.  If only they knew. 
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Re: Sixty-three %: Isolationist
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2012, 11:32:37 AM »
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This zionist state would create endless 'tension' in the region to affect arab control strategies...not the least being the creation of radical islam.

They have too much time and money on their hands.  They need to be put to work in a hard labor camp.   ;D
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Re: Sixty-three %: Isolationist
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2012, 06:16:52 PM »
Who are you guys...????
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Re: Sixty-three %: Isolationist
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2012, 05:20:13 AM »
Quote from: painted horse on October 29, 2012, 06:16:52 PM
Who are you guys... ??? ?

We're the isolationists.  We're 63% of America.  Our views are being discussed.  What is your view?   :D
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Re: Sixty-three %: Isolationist
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2012, 07:22:37 AM »
Quote from: Hairy Chest on October 30, 2012, 05:20:13 AM
Quote from: painted horse on October 29, 2012, 06:16:52 PM
Who are you guys... ??? ?

We're the isolationists.  We're 63% of America.  Our views are being discussed.  What is your view?   :D

He's not quite telling you the truth, Painted.

The stance outlined in the original post is NOT Isolationist. It is Non Interventionist....completely different. But as noted earlier, the use of the word "Isolationist" stirs more angst, making it more fun for the poster. ::)
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Re: Sixty-three %: Isolationist
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2012, 03:01:45 PM »
Whichever word you wish to use as long as you (we) keep our nose out of other peoples concerns would work for me just fine.
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Re: Sixty-three %: Isolationist
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2012, 05:21:18 AM »
Quote from: TM7 on October 31, 2012, 02:35:04 AM
Isolationists happen to be non-interventionists I reckon.
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Backyard boneheads don't get it. 
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Re: Sixty-three %: Isolationist
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2012, 05:25:28 AM »
Quote from: TM7 on October 31, 2012, 02:35:04 AM
Isolationists happen to be non-interventionists I reckon.
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True, but Non-interventionists are NOT isolationists. ::)
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