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Fla town bans punky pants sagging.
« on: October 26, 2012, 04:15:51 AM »
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  Baggy Pants Ban in Florida Sparks Controversy     By Sarah B. Weir, Yahoo! blogger 
 By Sarah B. Weir, Yahoo! blogger | Fashion – 21 hours agoMaybe the fashion police should crack down on saggy trousers, but real law enforcement? A new ordinance by passed in a three-to-one vote by the city council of Cocoa, Florida prevents a "person in public view from wearing pants or skirts below the waistline that expose the undergarments or the skin…." The law will go into effect on January 1, 2013.     
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Although members of the city council say they passed the ban in order to increase civility in their "family oriented" town of 17,000, critics claim it's a mask for additional "stop and frisk" type activities by the police. "This is nothing more than a vehicle for further harassment of young people," Alberta Wilson, president of the Central Brevard Branch of the NAACP told FloridayToday.com. "I don't like the saggy pants anymore than you do, however, I respect people's Constitutional rights." Police Chief Mark Klayman acknowledged that the ordinance would provide greater opportunity to confront individuals on the street. "This would give the police officers the probable-cause stop," Klayman said. "This could also be a measure to allow us to get drugs and guns off the street just based on this stop."
 
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Wilson expressed her concern that the new law might lead to violent confrontations between violator and the police. "I'm worried about enforcement, I fear a police officer getting some resistance and resorting to some means and doing bodily harm to a child," she said.
The town tried to pass a similar ordinance in 2010, but backed down when constitutional court challenges were mounted against other municipalities, although some bans have been successfully passed. The first day a 2011 saggy trousers law went into effect in Fort Worth, Texas, 50 people were kicked off of the public bus system.
 
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The saggy pants ban will be a three strike policy: violators will pay a fine of $25 for the first offense, $50 for the second, and $100 for every additional offense thereafter. It will be up to the police officer to determine the fine.
 
Tyler Furbish, the lone dissenter on the city council, pointed out that in an era of budget cuts, the new law would burden a police department that was already stretched thin. "I think it is going to put a strain on our law enforcement people who have better things to enforce," Furbish argued to the council. "I think we have a risk of too much regulation. What do we do next, outlaw blue houses?"
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Re: Fla town bans punky pants sagging.
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2012, 05:05:37 AM »
I wonder if those punks know that if you pull up your pants, you can walk like a man, instead of like a duck.

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Re: Fla town bans punky pants sagging.
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2012, 06:38:26 AM »
Due to the cold we don't have those guys showing their underwear often up here.  But I have noticed a lot of women of late wearing those low waist pants.  They bend down to assist their kids of to pick-up something and you see half way down their crack.  Plumbers ain't got nothing on these women.  Would not mind if they were good looking, but they are usually chuncky.  Not the kind you would find plesent to look at.
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2012, 06:54:44 AM »
As dumb as that style looks I am of the mind that no government body has the right to tell people how to dress

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Re: Fla town bans punky pants sagging.
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 06:56:03 AM »
As long as their shirt/ jacket covers the underware, I dont care if they let them pile up around their ankles. Even a low IQ should keep their stuff covered, I dont expect much more out of them.

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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 07:35:23 AM »
As dumb as that style looks I am of the mind that no government body has the right to tell people how to dress

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Re: Fla town bans punky pants sagging.
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 08:17:25 AM »
Stoopid use of gov't power. I think it's gonna be useful for kops' fishin' expeditions.

maybe they'll outlaw comb-overs next?
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Re: Fla town bans punky pants sagging.
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2012, 08:41:28 AM »
As dumb as that style looks I am of the mind that no government body has the right to tell people how to dress

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I agree , butt his right to bend over and crack a smile at me like some gross refrigerator repairman ends when I don't want to look at that !

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Re: Fla town bans punky pants sagging.
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 08:43:35 AM »
Stoopid use of gov't power. I think it's gonna be useful for kops' fishin' expeditions.

maybe they'll outlaw comb-overs next?


Or some of those really tacky toupees that look and smell like road kill .

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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 08:48:56 AM »
As dumb as that style looks I am of the mind that no government body has the right to tell people how to dress

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there was a famous quote
''i may not agree with the way you wear your pants
but  will defend your right to do so''.......the name  slips my mind, did he sign the constitution?


seems   like a stupid waste  of tax payers resources
besides....this   makes   it easier to spot a moron
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 08:50:59 AM »
so we now see pants police . if we get all the gang members to look normal how will we know who are gang members ?  ::)
And Anna its plumber butt not ref. rep man butt , just saying ......................... BTW I'm a card carrying plumber  ;D
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 08:55:44 AM »
you  haven't seen  her ref repairman  then
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 09:36:20 AM »
you  haven't seen  her ref repairman  then


Thank you , he was discusting ! He could have mooned all of Dallas with just a smile . 

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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2012, 03:10:58 PM »
'Scuse me fer askin' but is there actually a constitutional right to "show yer azz"?
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2012, 12:45:19 AM »
'Scuse me fer askin' but is there actually a constitutional right to "show yer azz"?

'Scuse me fer remindin'.... but the Constitution is meant to be a limiter on the power/scope of the gov't, NOT a limiter on our rights.

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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2012, 12:54:58 AM »
'Scuse me fer askin' but is there actually a constitutional right to "show yer azz"?

'Scuse me fer remindin'.... but the Constitution is meant to be a limiter on the power/scope of the gov't, NOT a limiter on our rights.

You're welcome, bro...

Yup! But that doesn't address my question.......unless you believe that there IS right to display your buttocks. In which case, by the same reasoning, I can kick them up between your ears and the government is not allowed to interfere. ::)
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2012, 01:00:54 AM »
True that. But to your orig query:
'Scuse me fer askin' but is there actually a constitutional right to "show yer azz"?
I dunno, but I do it every once in a while...
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2012, 01:10:34 AM »
you  haven't seen  her ref repairman  then


Thank you , he was discusting ! He could have mooned all of Dallas with just a smile .

He was a plumber want to be  ;D 
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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2012, 01:11:53 AM »
'Scuse me fer askin' but is there actually a constitutional right to "show yer azz"?

'Scuse me fer remindin'.... but the Constitution is meant to be a limiter on the power/scope of the gov't, NOT a limiter on our rights.

You're welcome, bro...

Yup! But that doesn't address my question.......unless you believe that there IS right to display your buttocks. In which case, by the same reasoning, I can kick them up between your ears and the government is not allowed to interfere. ::)
Why does the way a person dress control you  ?
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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2012, 01:31:51 AM »

Why does the way a person dress control you  ?

Doesn't.......sometimes it might disgust me though particularly in the presence of children.

Why do you ask.......you concerned?
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2012, 06:30:11 AM »
Just asking , I try not to let the idoits know I even notice , it is discusting even girls who show their thongs and garders in public.
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2012, 06:43:05 AM »
'Scuse me fer askin' but is there actually a constitutional right to "show yer azz"?

'Scuse me fer remindin'.... but the Constitution is meant to be a limiter on the power/scope of the gov't, NOT a limiter on our rights.

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we're not talking federal law.  this is usually small towns restricting indecent exposure.
and since many small towns have a majority of older citizens, their disgust at having someones nasty underwear paraded in front of them gives "THEM" the right to restrict it.
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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2012, 06:44:36 AM »
True that. But to your orig query:
'Scuse me fer askin' but is there actually a constitutional right to "show yer azz"?
I dunno, but I do it every once in a while...
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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2012, 07:10:03 AM »
I hope none of the gangs embrace worn out old t-shirts, old Dockers, and cheap slip on sneakers. If so, I may be in trouble with the wardrobe police.

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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2012, 07:10:53 AM »
I've got a much better beard a much less gut than either of yer cartoon characters, Bugeye.

Is this a new theme for you - pictures labelled at (my) dog, pig, and crack? I suppose I'm impressed enough that you've learned how to rename a file, but you're off topic...
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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2012, 07:17:27 AM »
I've got a much better beard a much less gut than either of yer cartoon characters, Bugeye.

Is this a new theme for you - pictures labelled at (my) dog, pig, and crack? I suppose I'm impressed enough that you've learned how to rename a file, but you're off topic...
crack??  where did that come from???   I might be off topic, but it does seem to get a rise out of you ;D
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« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2012, 11:34:50 AM »
Who's biz is it what anyone wears?
If someone doesn't like what someone else is wearing,,,,LOOK THE OTHER WAY!!!
I think saggy pants look stupid and makes the wearer look stupid.
But I couldn't care less that he has to hold his pants up with one hand .
Besides,, when you start  policeing cloths, how long will it be till they say women can't wear them low neck lines? :'(
 
 
 
 
 
 

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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2012, 11:55:03 AM »
my wife and I walked into dairy-queen a few weeks ago, and this guy was leaned over with his elbows on the counter with his pants at knee level.

my wife is a gentle sensitive lady and should not be subjected to such filth.

I guess other folks wives and daughters are different than mine.
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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2012, 01:17:47 PM »
crack??  where did that come from???   I might be off topic, but it does seem to get a rise out of you ;D
Well, that might come back around, sooner or later.
I guess other folks wives and daughters are different than mine.
I'll bet my girlfriend AND my daughters are better-looking! ;D ;D ;D

On-topic... put me down as being against towns legislating a dress code:




 
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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2012, 01:40:56 PM »
I'll bet my girlfriend AND my daughters are better-looking! ;D ;D ;D 


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