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BFR 500 JRH
« on: October 27, 2012, 12:46:33 PM »
50-yards 5-shots

I know it's only 50 yards, but the rifle range was closed.   :P

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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2012, 03:53:26 AM »
Nice setup and some good shooting.  What's your load?
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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2012, 06:45:15 AM »
440 grain WFN, 29 grains W296, 1420 fps. 
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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2012, 12:29:03 PM »
How does it group at 100 yards offhand or freehand depending on ones terminology?
What is the barrel length measured from the cylinder face not the silly way Magnum Research measures them.
That seems like a good revolver and caliber to invest in.
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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2012, 01:20:04 PM »
Quote from: MePlat on October 28, 2012, 12:29:03 PM
How does it group at 100 yards offhand or freehand depending on ones terminology?
What is the barrel length measured from the cylinder face not the silly way Magnum Research measures them.
That seems like a good revolver and caliber to invest in.

Do you ask rifle shooters how does it group offhand at 100 yards after they showed a pic?   ???
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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2012, 01:57:34 PM »
If it is a hunting rifle and that maybe they will have to shoot offhand at odd times yes.  Because when one may have to take a shot offhand it is nice to know.
I would not ask a brenchrest shooter that because their rifles are set up design wise for brenchrest shooting.
As good as that revolver shoots it should be a humdinger for offhand shooting whether it be 10 yards or  100.
To give an example there is a guy at the range I frequent that all he does is shoot offhand after he works up a load for his hunting rifle and he is a spectacular shot.
When he has to shoot at extended ranges he know what his rifle and him can deliver especially off a rest.
As good as he shoots offhand at 200 I would like to be able to do at half the distance.
But there again he shoots alot.  I don't make it to the range as often as I would like. Therein lies the problem with me. Lack of practice.
 
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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2012, 06:59:33 PM »
Quote from: MePlat on October 28, 2012, 01:57:34 PM
If it is a hunting rifle and that maybe they will have to shoot offhand at odd times yes.  Because when one may have to take a shot offhand it is nice to know.
I would not ask a brenchrest shooter that because their rifles are set up design wise for brenchrest shooting.
As good as that revolver shoots it should be a humdinger for offhand shooting whether it be 10 yards or  100.
To give an example there is a guy at the range I frequent that all he does is shoot offhand after he works up a load for his hunting rifle and he is a spectacular shot.
When he has to shoot at extended ranges he know what his rifle and him can deliver especially off a rest.
As good as he shoots offhand at 200 I would like to be able to do at half the distance.
But there again he shoots alot.  I don't make it to the range as often as I would like. Therein lies the problem with me. Lack of practice.
 

I can hold the first two shots 1 moa at 100 yards.  After that, I open up.  But the first two, at least the first shot is right on the money.  Now that's with 475 Linebaugh.  It twists and turns.  The 500 JRH pushes back evenly.  It should do well for hunting. 
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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2012, 01:34:56 AM »
That is impressive.  Being able to hold 1 MOA at 100 yards offhand for the first 2 shots is impressive.
That would be just like a hunting secnario.
What a person could do is go to the range and fire 2 shots,  lay the gun down and wait several minutes or shoot something else for a few and then fire 2 more shots and then repeat the procedure and fire 2 more later and build a 1 MOA 6 shot group.
That would be something one could do.  I would be happy to be a ble to do that.
That may be something you may want to try.
I've seen rifle shooters do a similar thing just to confirm their skills and to check how they and their rifle will do in a 2 shot senario while hunting.
A man could actually build a 10 shot group like that. 
That would be a target I would cherish myself.  If I could do something like that.
I would have to show it to some NRA bullseye shooters just to see the look on their face.
Might be something you want to try before it gets too blistery cold.
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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2012, 05:25:32 AM »
Quote from: MePlat on October 29, 2012, 01:34:56 AM
That is impressive.  Being able to hold 1 MOA at 100 yards offhand for the first 2 shots is impressive.
That would be just like a hunting secnario.
What a person could do is go to the range and fire 2 shots,  lay the gun down and wait several minutes or shoot something else for a few and then fire 2 more shots and then repeat the procedure and fire 2 more later and build a 1 MOA 6 shot group.
That would be something one could do.  I would be happy to be a ble to do that.
That may be something you may want to try.
I've seen rifle shooters do a similar thing just to confirm their skills and to check how they and their rifle will do in a 2 shot senario while hunting.
A man could actually build a 10 shot group like that. 
That would be a target I would cherish myself.  If I could do something like that.
I would have to show it to some NRA bullseye shooters just to see the look on their face.
Might be something you want to try before it gets too blistery cold.

Good idea.   :D
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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2012, 06:49:25 AM »
 Did you get that velocity shooting over a chronograph, as I have a 6” barrel and 30.0 grains of H110 gets me 1,356fps and that’s over an Oehler 33.  Another gent on another site gets 1,332fps using 28.5 grains of WW296 behind a 440 grain from a 6.5” barrel.
 
I find once you enter into the 1,300fps area the recoil gets a little harsh and for me anyway – my trigger finger gets pounded pretty hard and without band-aides or a glove, I’ll lose a little blood.
 
As for offhand shooting – I’ve got an optic front sight and have used a red dot and rear peep-sight and I can shoot all around a beer can at 100 yards – if that can would move I just might be able to hit it more often.  The defination of shooting all around for me anyway, is from an inch to over a foot.   
 
 
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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2012, 08:44:33 AM »
No, I just gave an estimate.  Another guy who has my barrel length gets 1450, but he seats it out and adds more powder.  My computations compared to his gives me 1420 fps.  It would be good to check it with the chronograph.  I just hate to set those up.  Like cleaning guns, it is so boring!  Not really.  Gun cleaning can be relaxing.   :D
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2012, 07:01:24 PM »


That's a nice sight you have on your BFR.  How do you like it?   8)
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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2012, 05:56:47 AM »
Ol' shooter's saying: "Bench proves the gun/load; offhand proves the shooter".
I know guys that can take an accurate gun and make it the worst shooting thing, so when I see a post & pic, as above, with that kind of performance ( ;D ), I dont give a lick how he shoots it offhand. The only thing that would matter is how I could make it group.
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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2012, 08:29:48 AM »
 "Bench proves the gun/load; offhand proves the shooter".
My question seemed to offend but wasn't meant too.
I like to see the small groups that a gun can shoot from the bench myself but I also like to see shooters that can shoot well offhand too.
I am not a very good shot offhand and I just like to see targets that others shoot offhand.
I guess I am jealous of you guys that can shoot those tiny groups offhand.
But the bottom line in the equation of accuracy is  Gun+ammo+shooter=accuracy either from the bench or offhand.
Even bench shooting takes good form and a command of the particulars of good bench shooting to be able to build a small group.
Ever see a benchrest rifle shooter that was sloppy on the bench?  No you haven't.
Still I like to see those offhand targets.
It gives me something to shoot for but i am not very good myself.
So,  if I am jealous so be it.

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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2012, 10:00:32 AM »
Oh, I hope you dont think I was offended, Im not; just wanted to throw in the ol' shooter's wisdom from my mentors.
I like to see what one does 'benched' (it is usually pretty casual) 'cause I know offhand Im gonna be a whole lot bigger, or have some ugly fliers, though some days are magic. Back in the '70's, when I could actually see, making pop cans dance at the 100yd. berm one handed with my S-BH and the old Skeeter 44M load was my normal. Yeah, I know I didnt hit 'em every time, but they were jumpin' about and that was as good or better than my shooting buddies, so I was holdin' my own in good company.
Now....not so good, but its still fun, and satisfying, to jump a can or clang a gong when I bear down and do it right  ;D .
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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2012, 12:01:10 PM »
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That's a nice sight you have on your BFR.  How do you like it?   8)
I really like it and the only thing better is a red dot or scope for accurate shooting with ole eyes. It's really fast on moving targets using both eyes - but I find the red dot is just as fast and my accuracy is better with a red dot to boot.
I use the Leupold DeltaPoint with the 7.5MOA delta - have both the aimpoint micro T-1 and the deltapoint and both are great but I'm partial to the deltapoint.
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Re: BFR 500 JRH
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2012, 02:16:03 PM »
Now that I looked at it again, my old picture looked like the long cylinder BFR.  Here's a better pic.

 

I took the grip frame off to tighten the hammer pin set screw on the BFR 45-70.  It sure was a pain to get the U-shaped spring back behind the trigger so the grip frame fits in.  Any tips or tricks on how to do that part easier? 
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