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Adjusting the Remington 700 trigger???????
« on: October 31, 2012, 06:23:46 AM »
On trigger adjustment,   Listing screws from front (nearest the muzzle) to back as screw #1, #2 and #3.
 
"Photograph #2 shows the front of the trigger housing; the two screws in the photo are used to adjust the weight of pull and the amount of backlash."
 
But which is which? ??? ???
 
 "Photograph #3 shows the backside of the trigger housing, which contains one screw used to adjust the sear engagement."

I assume this is the third screw, or closest to the rear and would adjust creep? ??? ??? ?

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Re: Adjusting the Remington 700 trigger???????
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2012, 06:34:05 AM »
It's been a lot of years since I adjusted a 700 trigger, but it was very well explained in the step by step process that I used. I would try and find another source for the adjustments...
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Re: Adjusting the Remington 700 trigger???????
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2012, 11:46:52 AM »
Read the sticky above. It has instructions and photos.


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Re: Adjusting the Remington 700 trigger???????
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 04:52:27 AM »
Read the sticky above. It has instructions and photos

The above only brings up this thread on my computer.  The sticky doesn't have photos anymore and does not list the screws as to their order but their function.  Their function is not listed on each screw.
 
My question remains; listing screws as #1 (closest to the muzzle) #2 (the one in the middle) and #3 the last one or the one closest to the butt.  Which one does Wt of pull, which one does backlash (overtravel) and which one does sear engagement (creep)?

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Re: Adjusting the Remington 700 trigger???????
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 05:39:50 AM »
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Re: Adjusting the Remington 700 trigger???????
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2012, 06:10:54 AM »
Here is one instruction on it I've had a long time. I have no clue who it originally came from for credit to them. I can't get the images in it to show so.

Adjusting the Remington 700 Trigger
To Steve, many thanks for showing me how to do this many years ago!
Background:
The Remington trigger system is a very good system that in years past came directly from the factory with a crisp and reasonable pull. These days however, Remington is producing triggers that are not as smooth and are liability proof with pull weights that have gotten to the point of being ridiculous. These changes are due to Remington trying to reduce the cost of their rifles and the ever present fear of civil liability from a trigger that is too light. If you are not conscious of gun safety and are not smart enough to keep your fingers off your trigger until you are ready to fire, I kindly ask you to read no further and find another hobby as I accept no responsibility for stupid people. The modifications that I am about to discuss have the potential to be extremely dangerous if not done carefully! If you have the slightest doubt about what you are doing, I strongly urge you to have a competent gunsmith adjust your trigger for you as the cost is minimal.
The Remington trigger:
The Remington 700 Trigger has three screws as shown in the following image.

Image was of the trigger assembly right side view with safety to the left. There are two screws in front of the trigger and one above and rear of trigger. That last one is the sear adjustment screw. I personally do NOT touch that one ever. The over travel screw is the upper one and the pull adjustment screw is the lower one. It is about all I ever adjust on Remington 700s and sevens.
 

When you look at your trigger you will see that the heads of these screws are covered in a glue or loctite. To adjust your trigger it will be necessary to scrape this glue off the screw heads and then determine if your screw heads are slotted or allen head. The next step in this process is to break the screws loose and add a small drop of oil to help with adjustments. I normally run the screws in and out a couple times to make sure that the screw is not binding and the surfaces of the screw are completely covered in oil.
Adjusting the trigger:
Back out the spring tension (trigger pull) screw to a light trigger pull that is adequate to keep some pressure on the trigger but is very light (trigger pull will be set later). Next back out the sear engagement screw, and the over travel screws several turns.
Once the screws are adjusted as above, close the bolt (without dry firing) and SLOWLY turn the sear engagement screw in until the firing pin is released. From this point, back the screw out a half turn. Without recocking the firing pin, screw the over travel screw in until you feel it contact the trigger lightly, preventing the trigger from moving. From this point, back the over travel screw out a quarter turn. When you pull the trigger at this point there should be a very slight movement of the trigger.
To adjust the trigger pull, adjust the spring tension screw to a pull that you like. As you turn the screw in the trigger pull will be increased and the pull will be reduced as the screw is backed out. I would not recommend going lighter than 1 to 1.5-pounds with a factory trigger and I prefer a trigger closer to 2 to 2.5-pounds for a big game rifle.
Work the bolt several times to cock the rifle and try the trigger with the trigger gauge and your finger to make sure that you are happy with how the trigger pull and release feels and the weight is something that you are comfortable with. I also recommend the use of a good trigger gauge to confirm that you are getting a consistent break. If the break you are getting is not consistent, then you may need to increase the trigger pull or consider having the trigger rebuilt or replaced by a competent gunsmith.
Safety Checks!
After you are happy with the feel of the trigger it is essential that you perform a safety check as described here. First, slam the bolt closed HARD up to a dozen times watching to see if the sear allows the firing pin to be released. If the firing pin is released, back out the sear engagement screw another 1/4 turn, and repeat slamming the bolt again.
Next, cock the firing pin and put the weapon on "SAFE" and pull the trigger, release the trigger, put the weapon on "FIRE". Repeat this process several times and if the firing pin is released, increase the trigger pull and repeat this process.
Once these safety checks are performed, take nail polish and seal the heads of the screws and allow it to dry. I normally try to use two coats to make sure that the screws are properly glued in place. Once adjusted, the Remington trigger rarely needs additional adjustment and can be as good as many after market triggers.
Postscript:
I have recently purchased a new Remington 700 Classic that quite literally had the God awful worse trigger I have ever felt on any gun. This trigger was rough in the sear engagement and the trigger spring itself was too stiff to allow for any adjustment that was acceptable for my taste. I understand that it is possible to buy replacement trigger springs and to have the sear surface polished but these are tasks that are beyond my level of understanding so I took a trigger out of a well used Remington 700 ADL from the early 1970's and swapped it for my new trigger. I felt guilty selling my old ADL with that new Rem. 700 trigger that was so lousy, but at least the gun that I wanted to keep has a crisp 2-pound trigger that I can trust to work as a quality trigger should!
If your rifle has a really bad trigger, you may wish considering looking for replacement in the form of a used factory or an aftermarket trigger.  Click Here to find a NEW trigger for your Remington 700!




By Paul "Pablito" Coburn
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First, the disclaimer
In the U.S.A., we live in a litigious society, and for those of you who live in Rio Linda, that means fools will do really stupid crap, and then sue someone else, because "It's their fault, they made me do it!".  For those of you that don't know what you're doing...  STAY AWAY FROM TRIGGERS...  you can hurt someone (usually someone else!)
Adjusting triggers is something that was once an expected job by the owner of a new gun, just like adjusting the seats in your new car.
But Remington (because of many lawsuits) takes a very dim view of adjusting their triggers... it's number "1" under Remington's "Felony list of no-no's".
Be advised, if you adjust the trigger, and send the gun back to Remington (in the USA) for repairs, they will charge you for a new trigger (they will NOT re-adjust the old one).
.. and finely, your mileage may vary according to road conditions.  If you are new at guns, and lack experience to do internal minor repairs and parts replacement... this may not be for you.  Do not do the following unless you are skilled enough to work on guns, and responsible enough to handle them safely.  I'm presenting this information as "Information Only"... it is SOLELY your decision whether you have the skill and ability to use this information.
If you have an accident, it means that you weren't skilled enough, or responsible enough, so you shouldn't have done the following, so it's not my fault, neither Sniper Country's!
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Now on to the details
The Remington triggers are very good, except they come with a built in lawyer, and he weighs about 9 or 10 pounds.
You will need a bit of good quality gun oil (CLP or equivalent), and a set of small screwdrivers, and some white or red nail polish.
Remove the barreled action from the stock.
Looking at the gun and trigger so the safety is up, and the barrel is pointing to your right... the front of the trigger is to your right...
 
The three screws are as follows...
•   On your right, (the front of the trigger) the top screw, near the action, is over travel...
•   The bottom screw is spring tension...
•   On your left side, (the back of the trigger) is the engagement screw.
First, break the white "Seals of God" and screw the three screws out enough so that you see several threads.
They may be hard at first, but they are NOT staked in place.  The screws and trigger body are carbon steel, and may be rusted, or they may have a sealant on them.  Just break them free.  Drop a teeny bit of oil on the threads.  Run the screws in and out several times until the oil is in the threads, and they turn freely.
OK, now down to business.
Back out the spring tension screw out until there is just enough pressure to keep the trigger forward, but it's very light (4 or 5 oz's) and easy to move.
Back out the engagement screw, (the single screw on the left) and the over-travel screw (the upper screw on your right) out, so there's play to adjust.
Close the bolt on a cocked pin (don't pull the trigger) and VERY SLOWLY turn the engagement screw (on your left) in until the firing pin drops.  Back it out about 1/3 to 1/2 of a turn.  With the firing pin down, you should now feel the trigger wobble back and forth if you pull it because there is excessive over travel.
Because the back surface of the trigger is NOT undercut, you have to adjust over-travel with the pin "down".
Now, with the firing pin in the "fired" position, screw in the over-travel screw until it "just touches" the trigger lightly, preventing the trigger from moving... back out the over travel screw 1/4 turn.  Pulling the trigger now, (with the pin "down") you should feel just the "slightest" free movement.
Now turn in the spring tension screw (lower right) to a pull that you like... I'd strongly suggest a good trigger pull gauge, instead of guessing.
Cock the pin and try it... it should break like glass.
Check by:
•   Slam the bolt closed a dozen times, check to see if the pin dropped each time.  If the pin drops, back out the engagement screw 1/4 turn, and do again.
•   Cock the pin, set the safety, pull the trigger, release the trigger, and release the safety, a dozen times... if the pin drops, increase the spring tension (shouldn't be necessary, unless you're down around 10-15 oz's, and this trigger is not reliable at that light a pull.
Put white or red nail polish on the screws.  Let dry, and put another coat on it again, and again.
There will be no "take up slack", this is a single stage trigger, and can't be adjusted to act like a two stage.
These triggers are easily capable of going to 24-26 oz's, and they keep the setting year after year, and I've never had to re-adjust one.


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Re: Adjusting the Remington 700 trigger???????
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2012, 06:57:02 AM »
Bless you Bill.  That is the one I was looking for.  I remember it well and have done several triggers with it including my 7-08 Mountain rifle.  Haven't done a trigger in quite a while but a friend just brought over 2 rifles he wants done and all I could find was the one on the sticky.
 
Thank you, thank you, thank you.