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Why vote for Obama?
« on: October 31, 2012, 06:48:52 AM »
The only thing this master of lies and subterfuge has done with style and grace was to pardon a white turkey on thanksgiving. His one non racist move as president. The Stimulus bill, Obamacare and his attempt to attack industry through his global warming scam are examples of white collar crime so where are his good points? That he is Black (racist!), or that he is a democrat?
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2012, 06:57:50 AM »
He's one of the worst presidents in US history so I can't think of any good reason to vote for him.
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2012, 11:30:02 AM »
Congratulations on getting your pardon!  ;) 8) :-* :-* :-* :-*

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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2012, 02:34:05 PM »
Those on the receiving end of the confiscated contraband will vote for him, unless they think that they can get a better deal from the other guy, along with a few sucked in by the tribal system, Dem or Rep.




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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2012, 04:38:27 PM »
Congratulations on getting your pardon!  ;) 8) :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2012, 04:39:22 PM »
Someone must have a good reason to vote for Obama.
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2012, 04:45:39 PM »
Someone must have a good reason to vote for Obama.
the problem is they can,t reason. are be reasoned with




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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2012, 12:04:14 AM »
there are several reasons to vote for him.  if you want to give up your guns, worship in secret, give up your car/truck because you can't afford gas, wait six months to see a doctor, work in a government factory, live in a commune farming root vegetables, or paying near 100% taxes, then by all means, vote for him.
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2012, 01:54:06 AM »
      I already voted and it sure wasn't for Obama. Couldn't think of one good reason to vote for the idiot.

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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2012, 03:32:30 AM »
 I watched a youtube video where he gave someone a phone
thus her reason for voting for him(real Bright woman) :o 
I can't imagine someone so ignorant to vote a man
who gave you a phone run the Best/Strongest
 country in the world based off what freebies you get
but these type are what put him in the last time
So....
after very little thought
 I can't find a reason one to vote the magician into office
 
I said after the last election and I'll quote
 
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The US presidential vote has proven that intelligent Americans,
have now become the Minority

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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2012, 05:34:31 AM »
     I for one respect everyone opinion as to who they vote for but a vote for anyone other Romney is a vote for OBAMA!!  It doesnt matter who it is,  Jim

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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2012, 06:10:17 AM »
When I question people who support Obama my only conclusion is they must believe a lot of the things they hear, read, and see on T.V. I think the problem lies in the fact that they listen to the mainstream media and read things like newspapers that are ran by people in the Obama camp. It's also pretty obvious to me he gets a lot of votes because of the color of his skin.

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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2012, 06:28:08 AM »
     I for one respect everyone opinion as to who they vote for but a vote for anyone other Romney is a vote for OBAMA!!  It doesnt matter who it is,  Jim

So...you want those of us who can't support Romney to vote for Obama? Sounds like that's what you are saying.
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2012, 09:39:08 AM »
     I for one respect everyone opinion as to who they vote for but a vote for anyone other Romney is a vote for OBAMA!!  It doesnt matter who it is,  Jim

So...you want those of us who can't support Romney to vote for Obama? Sounds like that's what you are saying.
No but the experts on the airwaves, and in print, who deal with this for an occupation, all say in presidential races those who vote for tertiary candidates have in reality cast a vote for the man who wins.

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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2012, 10:06:49 AM »
Have you guys ever noticed that Obama attracts flies and rats ?  Eewwwww

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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2012, 10:35:53 AM »

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Why vote for Obama?

(shrug) someone who is pro-choice, and likes the idea of higher taxes on the rich/maintained social programs that help the poor... those folks might vote for Obama. That's what comes to mind right now.

Obama sure does seem to grate on those with some serious racial hangups, I have noticed this. that doesn't mean all who oppose Obama have serious racial hangups... just that most who have 'em, won't vote for him.
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2012, 11:29:50 AM »
Obama sure does seem to grate on those with some serious racial hangups.
That is why the Democratic Party is so upset, they keep playing the race card and even with the help of the press, it seems to be doing no good.

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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2012, 12:39:58 PM »
     No Yellowtail that isnt what I said and you know it wasnt, what I said was a vote for anyone else but Romney was a vote for OBAMA, and just for the record I was born and raised in Detroit Mich. so being against Obama hasnt anything to do with the fact that he is 1/2 black not black it is that he is just another JIVE @$$# person.  you fill it in as YOU SEE FIT.  Jim

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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2012, 01:08:19 PM »
No Yellowtail that isnt what I said and you know it wasnt,
Hi jhm. I was responding to thread title, and didn't mean to reference anything else.
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...what I said was a vote for anyone else but Romney was a vote for OBAMA,
I understand that view... but I'll prob still vote for Gary Johnson, and that most definitely WILL NOT BE A VOTE FOR OBAMA.
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and just for the record I was born and raised in Detroit Mich. so being against Obama hasnt anything to do with the fact that he is 1/2 black not black it is that he is just another JIVE @$$# person.  you fill it in as YOU SEE FIT.  Jim
Not sure what Detroit has to do with why you don't like Obama, and him being half-black ('Halfrican', according to some)
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2012, 04:21:41 PM »

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Why vote for Obama?

(shrug) someone who is pro-choice, and likes the idea of higher taxes on the rich/maintained social programs that help the poor... those folks might vote for Obama. That's what comes to mind right now.

Obama sure does seem to grate on those with some serious racial hangups, I have noticed this. that doesn't mean all who oppose Obama have serious racial hangups... just that most who have 'em, won't vote for him.
I'll sure vote for a party whose main plank is killing unborn children (Not)! Taxes on the rich/maintained social programs that help the poor? I'm not rich and I pay a lot in taxes. I don't mind helping the poor but I am against creating a welfare class just so they will vote Democrat/socialist. Obama grates on me because his plans include bankrupting my country. He calls the Constitution a list of "negative liberties" , this being more than just irritating. He also wants to give up our sovereignity to the UN and trash the Constitution in the process.
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2012, 01:56:30 AM »
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I understand that view... but I'll prob still vote for Gary Johnson, and that most definitely WILL NOT BE A VOTE FOR OBAMA.

I think where JHM was going with that is, if you vote for anyone other than Romney then you are taking away a vote for the only person that has a real chance at beating THE LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
I agree.
I don't necessarily believe that Mitt is the best man for the job but he IS THE ONLY ONE RUNNING THAT CAN BEAT THE CURRENT LIAR and just maybe get this country back on the right path.
Only time will tell and if he can't do it then in 4 years we will vote him out and try someone else.
 
The funny thing is so many people think that a person is so smart or good for the country because of what they say during their speech's, when in fact their speech's are written by someone else.
If they think the speech's are so great and believe them then maybe they should vote for the speech writers!
 
Unfortunately in this country of two party lines a third party stands almost no chance of ever getting elected because there just isn't enough money behind them.
It's a shame that it mostly comes down to this but that is the way our country works.
There are those that say the Reps are only for big money but don't be fooled, it looks like the Dems have quit a bit of it to spend behind their man also!!!
Just think what could have been done with all the dollars spent on this election by both sides.
 
 
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2012, 12:33:37 PM »
     The reference to the Detroit Mich. part was for the person who brought RACE into the post being raised in detroit and living amoung the people there you learn to get along with ALL races, and OBAMA isnt black he is 1/2 black and 1/2 half white however you would never know it by the way he has run his administration the last 4 yrs  jim

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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2012, 07:52:32 AM »
i can't think of ONE good, valid, reason to vote for obama...
OTOH...if you WANT higher taxes...higher unemployment...HIGHER energy costs...to name just a few...then by all means...vote obama; you WILL become his SUBJECT...
obamas record speaks for itself...what record? well...he did pass the biggest tax increase in our history...and will pass more...he has told us that he will...
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2012, 09:11:28 AM »
    ...OBAMA isnt black he is 1/2 black and 1/2 half white however you would never know it by the way he has run his administration the last 4 yrs  jim
Huh? How would you know it?
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2012, 03:33:35 AM »
YT very possibly the pont given was meant to infer Obama's lack so sense of duty. Other than to the golf course he has applied himself very little. Lazy and wrong headed would have been the less racial way of putting it. He has only applied himself when it benefits his friends like Soros or the people who supported his campaign, NBC (Jeffrey Immelt) and his now rich friends in the green energy fakery business. The word "Black" and his halfbreed background were not properly descriptive. Low Life, lazy thieving leftist is much closer to the proper description of Obama. It is interesting that from the previous posts you pick out RACE to argue about, I guess you feel the rest is true.
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2012, 04:07:22 AM »
It is interesting that from the previous posts you pick out RACE to argue about, I guess you feel the rest is true.
Well, that's what got presented.
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Listen - I detest it when folks use bogus accusations of racism! racism! racism! to shut down discussion, or put stink on somethink unrelated, or make some things off-limits. But let's be honest - a lot of the opposition to Obama gets phrased in racial terms, and has clear racial motivation. Before you get your panties in a wad, that don't mean someone can't oppose the man without being labeled a Klukker... it just means that a lot of conservatives out there have got some racial anger and hangups with seem to be a big chunk of their motivation.
 
But when you see posts talking about halfrican, and his wife as Negress... you gotta wonder. Mebbe they just think themselves clevah?
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2012, 04:22:36 AM »

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Why vote for Obama?

(shrug) someone who is pro-choice re.. pro-death, and likes the idea of higher taxes on the rich and everyone else toohigh tax maintained social programs that help the poor parasites... those folks might vote for Obama. That's what comes to mind and especially, emotions.. right now.

Obama sure does seem to grate on those with some who don't have serious racial hangups, I have noticed this. that doesn't mean all who oppose Obama have serious racial hangups... just that most who have 'em, plus those who think for themselves, won't vote for him.
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  Actually, lets just put our thinking caps on, Obama won the job saying he was going to:
 
  1)   Bring unemployment down to 5%
 
  2) Bring the USA back to a position of respect in the world.
 
  3) Cut the national debt in half
 
  4)  Unite the American people
 
  5)  Have the "most transparent" administration ever.
 
  6)  Put such deliberations as the "healthcare" discussion on C-Span..not behind locked doors
 
  7) Cut taxes for all but the top 1%..
 
  8) Not borrow money from China..putting our children in debt to them.
 
  9) Back our troops with all they need
 
  10) Produce a balanced budget
 
   So, let's take a look...
 
1)  No excuses now...Is unemployment down to 5%..?
 
2)  Are we respected more than when "W" was C-in-C?
 
3) Has the national debt been halved?
 
4) Are the people more united..men & women, black & white, rich & poor, left & right, union & non-union, gay & straight or immigrant & native, really getting along much better since Obama took office?
 
5) Are they really more transparent..why do we not know the facts surrounding Benghazi-gate?  How about, "you have to pass it, so you can find out what is in it" ?
 
6) Were the Obamacare discussions completely transparent?  Or was half the congress actually 'locked out' of the room where the discussions were taking place?
 
7)  Have your taxes been cut in half?  How about the hidden taxes at the gas pump, grocery store or the reduction in value of your savings, IRA or 401K.. bu trillions more dollars being printed?
 
9)  Has he borrowed more from China?  Has he put our children more deeply in debt?
 
10)  Has he produced a balanced budget..or has he not even produced a budget for 4 years?
 
   No need to reply, just answer these questions for yourself..
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2012, 04:33:58 AM »
Couple questions, Ironglow, based on your post above:
 
1. is it your position that I'm mistaken or disingenous on my assertion, that Obama seems to grate on those with racial hangups? Or that those with racial hangups won't vote for him?

2. Do you think that folks who think for themselves, won't vote for Obama?

How can you tell if a man thinks for himself? What's the test?
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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2012, 05:00:16 AM »
Racism, sometimes it's very subtle.
 

 
On thinking for yourself:
Ask questions, particularly the question "why?". Ask everyone (not just the so-called experts), and try to answer your own questions as well. When you get an answer, try to think of exceptions, and then ask yourself why those exceptions exist. Never be satisfied until you arrive at an answer that has very few exceptions.
 
Look for selfish motives. Some people will become very annoyed, and perhaps even offended, that you're questioning something they accept without question. Whenever people want you to think a certain way, it's because it benefits them in some way. But that benefit is not always obvious or direct. Many times, people want you to adopt their perspective because it makes them feel more comfortable and secure (safety in numbers). Sometimes, people's beliefs make it easier for them to feel like a good person. These people don't want those beliefs challenged because it's as if you were challenging them personally - it seems to them that you are questioning their "good-person-hood". Sometimes, people are trying to look out for your best interest, and truly want you to be in step with their beliefs without looking into their statements any further. And sometimes, people just want to be seen as authoritative and trusted, so they're personally invested in whether or not you buy into the things they say. That's why they take it personally if you don't automatically buy in.
 
Stop being a people pleaser. People who don't think for themselves are often scared of disagreeing with others, and scared of "rocking the boat". A freethinker, on the other hand, bases their self worth on something other than what people think of them. These people may still experience rejection, discomfort, and anguish, but they will continue to think for themselves.
In cases where someone says he "just wants the best for you," you may be accused of distrust, and it could make you feel guilty. But keep in mind that anyone who truly cares for you will be willing to explain their point of view and why they feel that way, and allow you to decide for yourself whether that is enough evidence for you.
 
Do the research. Look into the statements made by others. You'll be amazed at how many times you'll find lots of evidence to contradict the statements of others. Yet, these people spout this erroneous information and never question the accuracy or truth of what they're saying. Use Google or go to the library, and search for information to prove or disprove the statements made. Remember where you get the "evidence" from. Be aware that, just because you saw it in a book or on the internet, that alone does not make it the truth. Once you've found evidence, one way or the other, you can speak up about it. "Yes, you know after we talked last time, I was so interested that I looked that up. That's amazing, isn't it, hard to believe, but true!" Or conversely, you can say, "I know that sounds amazing, and I hate to burst the bubble because it's fun to believe that could be true, but I looked it up, and it looks like it isn't true. I feel bad to be the bearer of bad news, but I just don't think that's true. You can look at ____________ (wherever you found your disproving evidence) and see for yourself."
 
Be humble. When you're breaking the news that your friend is passing along a false tale, let them know in a humble and compassionate way - don't just come in crowing and congratulating yourself for debunking a myth. You may look smart to others for a minute, but to your friend, you look like a jerk.
 
Live outside your comfort zone. Not only will some people be very perturbed by your refusal to take their statements at face value, but you will also learn to question your own assumptions, and that can make you feel lost and confused, like walking into a dark room. It takes courage to face uncertainty. Be Bold.
 
Beware paralysis by analysis. When you're thinking for yourself, you're taking full responsibility for your life and your actions, because you can't say you were trusting someone else's judgment. This can be very nerve-wrecking, and lead to excessive self-doubt. Remember that thinking for yourself doesn't mean being sure. It means making decisions based on your own analysis, rather than someone else's. There will always be some degree of uncertainty, no matter what, that you must learn to accept and cope with.

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Re: Why vote for Obama?
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2012, 05:40:08 AM »

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Why vote for Obama?

(shrug) someone who is pro-choice, and likes the idea of higher taxes on the rich/maintained social programs that help the poor... those folks might vote for Obama. That's what comes to mind right now.

Obama sure does seem to grate on those with some serious racial hangups, I have noticed this. that doesn't mean all who oppose Obama have serious racial hangups... just that most who have 'em, won't vote for him.
I'll sure vote for a party whose main plank is killing unborn children (Not)! Taxes on the rich/maintained social programs that help the poor? I'm not rich and I pay a lot in taxes. I don't mind helping the poor but I am against creating a welfare class just so they will vote Democrat/socialist. Obama grates on me because his plans include bankrupting my country. He calls the Constitution a list of "negative liberties" , this being more than just irritating. He also wants to give up our sovereignity to the UN and trash the Constitution in the process.

 
Good reasons for not voting for either Gangster! Both are ani-Constitution, flip flopping Socialists. During the Republican Presidential debates the Gun Owners Of America sent out their questionaire to all candidates on the issues, and Romney is the only one who refused to answer it.Don't think for a minute he isn't in bed with the U.N......They both are!
 
BWTH! It really doesn't matter. Most made up their minds who they were going to vote for long before the debates.Brain Washed Party politics.........Pure and simple
 
But don't dispair! Both sides will lose "OR" win,depending on how you view it regardless of the outcome.The difference in the distruction of the Republic by either is slim to none JMHO ;)
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