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Offline bluez

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22 LR in a 22 Long rifle ?
« on: October 31, 2012, 08:04:57 AM »
Does .22 LR fit inside a rifle made for .22 Long ?

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Re: 22 LR in a 22 Long rifle ?
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2012, 08:14:01 AM »
No, the .22 LR is longer than the .22 Long.
 
However, the correct answer is, is that it depends on how the .22 long was chambered, or maybe even rechambered by a former owner...!
 
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Re: 22 LR in a 22 Long rifle ?
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2012, 08:29:43 AM »
What Lurker said  :D
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Re: 22 LR in a 22 Long rifle ?
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2012, 08:58:34 AM »
When i look at pictures of a Long next to a LR, it seems like the case have the same length but that the bullet is longer?

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Re: 22 LR in a 22 Long rifle ?
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2012, 09:05:20 AM »
What they said but it should be noted , the long is nothing more than a long rifle case with a 22 short projectile . I would think alot would chamber depending on bullet shape.
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Re: 22 LR in a 22 Long rifle ?
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2012, 06:38:47 PM »
It would likely fit the chamber but may not feed thru the action, depends on the action..
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Re: 22 LR in a 22 Long rifle ?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2012, 01:02:29 AM »
 CCI still makes 22 long if you need it for your rifle...


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Re: 22 LR in a 22 Long rifle ?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2012, 01:25:38 AM »
When i look at pictures of a Long next to a LR, it seems like the case have the same length but that the bullet is longer?
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     That is just the problem...  the bullet is apt to engage the rifling..having no room for leade.  With no leade, pressures can spike.
      If you load one round, then unload without firing..rifling marks may or may not show.
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      Were it mine and no rifling marks showed, I would set it up solidly for test firing with a string..  However, I would not/cannot tell you to do that, ....take it to a qualified gunsmith..
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Re: 22 LR in a 22 Long rifle ?
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2012, 09:38:14 AM »
What Shootall said except actully the other way around if splitting hairs... a 22 Long Rifle is a 22 Long case with a heavier (so longer) bullet.   Both are typically the same diameter as the case itself.
 
If it feeds through the rifle, no problem... if it jams rifling, no problem if not too severley and in effect just a match chamber (keeping that in mind the possible problems for that)... if a modern rifle pressure would be no problem, BUT if a really old one (pre 1890ish) from the days before the 22LR came out or even in an old but badly worn rifle it could be to varying degree.   Remember when my Win 1906 started spitting lead.  Not because it had shot even HV 22LR and only 22LR for over 5 decades by me (and probably many more by my family who bought it new in 1914) but because the action was just finally worn out from the uncountable rounds it had fired in all those years (I had sleeved the barrel twice).
 
Only you can decide... I know what I'd do to check it out safe enough (and wouldn't need a piece of strig to do it), BUT I am NOT suggesting that you do the same.   ;)   
 
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Re: 22 LR in a 22 Long rifle ?
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2012, 09:50:45 AM »
What Shootall said except actully the other way around if splitting hairs... a 22 Long Rifle is a 22 Long case with a heavier (so longer) bullet.   Both are typically the same diameter as the case itself.you may be correct I couldn't remember and didn't look it up ! thanks ,
 
If it feeds through the rifle, no problem... if it jams rifling, no problem if not too severley and in effect just a match chamber (keeping that in mind the possible problems for that)... if a modern rifle pressure would be no problem, BUT if a really old one (pre 1890ish) from the days before the 22LR came out or even in an old but badly worn rifle it could be to varying degree.   Remember when my Win 1906 started spitting lead.  Not because it had shot even HV 22LR and only 22LR for over 5 decades by me (and probably many more by my family who bought it new in 1914) but because the action was just finally worn out from the uncountable rounds it had fired in all those years (I had sleeved the barrel twice).
 
Only you can decide... I know what I'd do to check it out safe enough (and wouldn't need a piece of strig to do it), BUT I am NOT suggesting that you do the same.   ;)
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Re: 22 LR in a 22 Long rifle ?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2012, 10:27:19 AM »
What Shootall said except actully the other way around if splitting hairs... a 22 Long Rifle is a 22 Long case with a heavier (so longer) bullet.   Both are typically the same diameter as the case itself.you may be correct I couldn't remember and didn't look it up ! thanks ,
 
If it feeds through the rifle, no problem... if it jams rifling, no problem if not too severley and in effect just a match chamber (keeping that in mind the possible problems for that)... if a modern rifle pressure would be no problem, BUT if a really old one (pre 1890ish) from the days before the 22LR came out or even in an old but badly worn rifle it could be to varying degree.   Remember when my Win 1906 started spitting lead.  Not because it had shot even HV 22LR and only 22LR for over 5 decades by me (and probably many more by my family who bought it new in 1914) but because the action was just finally worn out from the uncountable rounds it had fired in all those years (I had sleeved the barrel twice).
 
Only you can decide... I know what I'd do to check it out safe enough (and wouldn't need a piece of strig to do it), BUT I am NOT suggesting that you do the same.   ;)
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   I agree with both of you guys..sure I would use a good glove and shoot it from around a corner...But I can't tell anyone to do that.. ;)
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Re: 22 LR in a 22 Long rifle ?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2012, 04:21:45 PM »
LOL... OK, time to fess up.
 
I have been totally fearless all my life, used up my 9 lives by the time I started school.    So how I've survived nearly 6 1/2 decades with all the close calls is beyond me.   None with firearms as per se... as in no serious injuries.   The 22LR Zipgun I was shot with in a street fright as a teen was just a nuisance, I didn't even go to a doctor.   My one and only with a firearm that got my attention was 40 odd years ago... an old 10GA double hammer gun a buddy brought along on a pheasant hunt that he wanted to sell because he wasn't sure of it.   Figured it'd be fun for waterfowl at the give away price of $65, it was beautiful and looked to be in fine condition so I was interested.  We were standing on a levee between the cotton fields we'd hunt.   I loaded both barrels, cocked both hammers (dumb #1), put the butt against my rear hip and turned away to shoot it... one barrel at a time.  But like a total idiot had two fingers on both triggers (way more than super dumb #2).   Yep, a double bang, and I ended up knocked down off the levee and on my butt in the nastiest gumbo mud in the state.   Didn't hurt the shotgun at all, it was solid as a rock.   To add insult to injury, embarrassment and pride it was at the start of the days hunt.   I limped all day in that sticky mud, so sticky it built up fast and thick and you had to constantly scape it off your boots to even keep walking.   We were both worn ragged by the end of the day, but I'm sure I was hurting a little more than my buddy was.   Yes I bought the gun, the body was fine in a couple of days, I was a little smarter (or less careless).    The shotgun was kept for a lot of years as a reminder (well, also because it was so deadly for goose hunting).   
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