Author Topic: Tensions boil over at gas pumps. News said lines of cars were hundreds long.  (Read 447 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
         Tensions boil over at gas stations as pumps run dry in wake of Sandy  By Greg Wilson
Published November 01, 2012
FoxNews.com     
  •    People line up to fill gas containers at the New Jersey Turnpike's Thomas A. Edison service area Wednesday, Oct. 31, 2012, near Woodbridge, N.J. After Monday's storm surge from Sandy, many gas stations in the region are without power and those that are open have very long lines. (AP Photo/Mel Evans)
  Nerves are fraying and tensions boiling over at gas stations, home improvement stores and on streets where utility workers scramble to restore electricity as much of the Northeast entered a third day without power.
 
Gasoline, in heavy demand for both cars and home generators, had customers waiting in line for hours and losing patience. In Wayne, N.J, police reported breaking up angry confrontations at gas stations throughout the day on Wednesday. In Brooklyn, tempers flared outside a Getty station, with drivers getting out of their cars and exchanging angry words.
"I don't have any lights and need this gasoline for my generator," Abdul Rahim Anwar told Reuters as he waited at a Getty service station in Gowanus, Brooklyn.

 
“I’ll wait here all night. I need this for my family.”
- Barry Levin, Cliffside Park, N.J.
Officials said more than half of all gasoline service stations in the New York City area and New Jersey have been shut down because they are either out of fuel or don’t have power to operate pumps.  In addition, pipelines and refineries have been shut down due to storm damage. More than 80 percent of stations in New Jersey were unable to sell gasoline as of Wednesday, according to the New Jersey Gasoline, Convenience, Automotive Association.
Residents of southeastern Connecticut were driving more than an hour north to find stations with power to run their pumps. One attendant there said tension becomes especially raw when people wait in line to fill gas cans, as opposed to vehicle tanks.
“You're waiting in line for five friggin’ gallons of gas!" he said.
At an Exxon station in Northvale, N.J., where a line of cars st
retched for a third of a mile late into Wednesday night, and another line of men waiting to fill red jerry gas cans inched along,
“I’ll wait here all night,” said Barry Levin, 42, of Cliffside Park. “I need this for my family.”
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie moved to increase supplies of gasoline and diesel by waiving requirements that make it harder for stations to buy from out-of-state suppliers. The waiver will be in place until Nov. 7.
 
“When shortages threaten after natural disasters like Hurricane Sandy, fuel buyers need to venture farther from state borders to ensure that their customers get the gasoline and diesel they need,” Treasurer Andrew Sidamon-Eristoff said. “Temporarily suspending licensing is a prudent way of empowering merchants to buy fuel farther from the state line, boosting supplies for New Jersey motorists who need fuel to get to work and do their jobs.”
 
Kevin Beyer, president of the Long Island Gasoline Retailers Association in Smithtown, N.Y., said customers would be even more frustrated if they considered that the gas they need is underground – it just can’t be pumped.
 
"I have gas in the ground but no power,” Beyer said. “For many others they're facing the opposite problem, with power but no gasoline. For the few stations that are lucky enough to have both they've got huge lines out front."
Beyer estimated it could take until the end of next week to get all fuel stations operating again.
 
For now, the flow of precious fuel has slowed to a trickle and that has customers nerves frayed. Patch of Mendham-Chester, N.J., reported that a scuffle broke out Wednesday between two men bearing empty gas cans when one of the men filled his pick-up truck with gas after topping off his gas can. Shortly after he finished, the computer controlling the pump went dead, and a long line of hopeful customers was turned away.
 
Rivaling the demand for gas was the scarcity of D batteries, the kind most flashlights use. Virtually every store in New Jersey, New York City and Long Island was cleaned out, and there are reports of them selling for as much as $5 apiece.
 
At Lowe’s in Orange, N.Y., a manager said he and other employees – many without power in their own homes – have stayed in nearby hotels just to keep the store open and running.
“You see the worst in people at a time like this,” he said. “We’re trying to be there for them, but they get angry when they can’t get batteries or flashlights. I tell the staff not to take it personally – people are hurting.”
 
Other targets of frustration are the utility crews working to restore power. With the daunting task of repairing nearly half of all service in New Jersey and as much as 80 percent on Long Island, local power companies are getting help from out of state. But that doesn't stop angry calls to company offices and even occasional confrontations on streets - when utility workers can even be spotted. The Long Island Power Authority advised customers angry at a lack of visible LIPA crews that many working to restore electricity to Long Island have come from out of state and are using personal vehicles.
 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/01/tensions-boil-over-at-gas-stations-as-pumps-run-dry-in-wake-sandy/#ixzz2AynPq2y9
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline Anna

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2263
  • Gender: Female
Gasoline is a very bad fuel for storing, it becomes sour and turns to varnish quickly.  This is why many people do not have much of it on hand for emergancys.

Offline FPH

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2290
I saw a line about a mile long to get to a gas station.  People were also complaining about the poor gas company crews.....geez give the guys a break, they are working their tails off.  I saw our local electric company is sending crews up there, 3000 miles more or less.

Offline Anna

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2263
  • Gender: Female
It's going to get worse before it gets any better.  Some of the Governors around there are already talking about the NG. 

Offline Swift One

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 925
  • Gender: Male
Seriously, I think I would make an attempt to just use campfires if I was in that predicament. Not quite sure about the fuel for travel. Luckily I'm within walking distant to my job. Sitting in those fuel station lines with all the tensions rising is a recipe for some bad stuff to go down.
It's all a hot mess...........

Offline Conan The Librarian

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4494
  • McDonalds. Blecch!
Jack Lemon was in a movie that reminds me of this. It was about a guy who traveled to New York during the bad old days of the 1960s for a job interview. He endured all kinds of ordeals (like being mugged) in the process and finally arrived for the interview battered and disheveled. Funny movie. Wish I could remember the name of it.

Offline Mxpe78a

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 104
Jack Lemon was in a movie that reminds me of this. It was about a guy who traveled to New York during the bad old days of the 1960s for a job interview. He endured all kinds of ordeals (like being mugged) in the process and finally arrived for the interview battered and disheveled. Funny movie. Wish I could remember the name of it.


The out of towners
People need to ride bikes and live close to work. In this situation stored gasoline and food would have been destroyed in this situation for many. Since advance warning was given bugging out might have been a good idea. Going to get worse before it gets better.

Offline kennyd

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 528
I can't imagine living in NJ, or a lot of the east.  Probably most of us on this board would have our camping stuff, lanterns, stove, tent, and whatnot.  You can get propane engined generators.  What we do not have to put up with is living in a low area, an apartment, or not even having a vehicle,; but some of us are older, and have mobility problems (my wife), not to mention medicine.  We have a crank light, radio, water filter (real one for germs), and some iodine tabs.  We also have a long standing bunch of neighbors who can and have pitched in.


I wonder how many people even know that bleach will disinfect water, how to treat dysentery, or how to do first aid until help comes.


East coast city people always seemed rude anyway, IMO.


OTH, there were shots of restaurants giving away food before it spoiled, synagogues, and even banks opening their lobbies to provide relief and cell phone charging.


We in Denver can remember the first fuel crunch (73), where all the stations were closed, you couldn't find anyone doing any extra driving.


Those of you who live on farms:  what and how will you react when the SHTF, and those of us who live in the suburbs or cities come knocking?  Since I am a gimpy old guy with a slightly disabled wife we will shelter in place, and rely on friends and family close by, and reciprocate as we can.  Could the Mormons be on to something?
just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they are not watching you

Offline Conan The Librarian

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4494
  • McDonalds. Blecch!
I wonder how many people did leave because they remembered the last storm. I think it was just a couple of years ago, with serious flooding. This storm was forecast to be bigger and stronger, so i guess a lot of people must have left. Makes me wonder also about some of those that did not. New jersey governor christie was doing a press conference the night of the storm and he was saying that the mayor of atlantic city convinced a lot of people to stay, and they sheltered about a block from the sea. Not sure what the outcome was, but probable not good.

Offline Conan The Librarian

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4494
  • McDonalds. Blecch!
KennyD,


Far be it from me to be a great advocate of new jersey, or new york for that matter, but new jersey actually has some really cool attributes. Once you get away from the big cities and the I95 corridor, there is some pretty country. You can be out in the jersey woods hunting and see manhattan in the distance. Some good fishing from the beaches, and some beaches are really nice and not that busy with people. There is a real cult of outdoorsmen there.


This is not intended as an endorsement, but more,of a reminisce of how surprised I was to learn these things.


Offline BBF

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10042
  • Gender: Male
  • I feel much better now knowing it will get worse.
Did anyone think of  putting Gen power to those Stations that have fuel but no juice?
I keep the fuel tank of one  unused vehicle full with additive treatment over the winter, same with the lawnmover.
 
Perhaps the new buildings that will be erected near the shore should be sitting on pillars similar to those found in parts of Florida.
What is the point of Life if you can't have fun.

Offline Conan The Librarian

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4494
  • McDonalds. Blecch!
If this is the big news of the day, things must be pretty good. Quibbling about gasoline availability is a lot better than lamenting casualties.
 

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Bbf. Smart thing to do, you have a good way of storing emergency fuel. 2 years ago the local stations had to use gennys to pump fuel with. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline geartow

  • Blow a Crow, Drop a Yote!!
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 200
  • Gender: Male
I have been taking generators into there{read as trailer mounted gensets} and we fill our trucks tank about 50 miles from the NJ boarder in Pa. There is no DIesel to be had . I was there last on Thursday night . Hopefully it gets better soon . Suppose to go back Sunday. And they are trying to buy the Generators off my truck. Now I know why they have GPS tracking in them . I ask the people how they will move it if I would sell it to them , answer I hadn't thought about it . Small genset weigh 10,000lbs and go up from there.  And as always coffee is number one priority!!!!!!!
Blow a Crow, Drop a Yote!!