I think most (american?) people are too lethargic and weak to march far, too undisciplined to conduct a co-ordinated raid, to impatient/ignorant to apply critical reasoning concerning aggression (just charge in hard like a retard), and believe in the hollywood b.s. concerning gun misinformation ("knock-down'' power, one shot stops due to kinetic energy alone, people being THROWN by rifles and shotguns that produce no recoil to the operator, weapons that get 100s of rounds per 30rd magazine) to actually be a threat to cops/vets/trained persons IN SMALL NUMBERS! If there is a food shortage or something else that would FORCE people to riot and form BIG MOBS, then yes it would be a problem. Like a zombie movie, except they're not slow or stupid, and the defenders would probably feel guilty and apprehensive shooting them.
those militia nuts generally strike me as a bunch of tards. like that show sons of guns- they like to do mad minutes a lot. it would be really funny for someone to use that in real life to chew up a house, then realize the people inside weren't hit, and caught them reloading their overheated (stressed barrels, ready to cook off and have ad/nd's on each other) weapons. or american guns, shooting explosive/reactive targets, to demonstrate HOW POWERFUL THE WEAPON IS!!!!! why not shoot paper and look at a tight group, that kills things that DON'T BLOW UP!!!!! how about people grabbing their 15lb ar-15 loaded down with too much bs that is fragile, with no iron sights, no reliability because it's a (usually kind of junky) kit gun that isn't fitted well and not cleaned thorough, no bayonet or even a lug for it, a collapsible stock that cannot effectively bash door knobs or faces, no compensator that can mutilate hands and gauge eyes, HUGE magazine that is far from conducive to proper weapons handling regarding fire or melee and prone to jamming/falling out/breaking and NO SKILLS TO USE IT AT 50YDS GENERALLY. even offered to clean up a bolt for someone at the range who couldn't get their ar to feed- FILLED with carbon/fouling! Next time you see a fool at the range with his zombie gun, talking about all his gear and how bad he/his gun is/are, ask about his cleaning gear and enjoy that blank stare!!!
case in point, I remember watching the movie "end of watch" recently, and the mexican cartel/thugs got 90+ out of an individual mag sometimes. four thugs clustered up in an enclosed space doing a mad minute x3 and no hot casings or powder burns on the people to the right of each shooter??? no one went deaf??? people see a place get chewed up by an assault rifle on tv/movies and think that's real. that ammo isn't powerful enough to degrade heavy concrete like that. also how do gang bangers tuck 5+ magazines away without a bandolier, also magazines get heavy quickly. people making/watching that garbage are at a "normal" awareness/knowledge level for firearms...
also shooting off locks with a rifle or shotgun. sorry, no. I remember co-running a breaching course in the marine corps and with m-16s using fmj "mil-spec" ammo, shotgun slugs of various varieties (usually those supposed "breacher" rounds of sintered iron), m9's with ball ammo, etcetera the lock breaks inward and will NEVER unlock. sure, 6-8 rounds will do the job, but that's a then empty shotgun for the breacher to then charge into the doorway with, also lots of frag/ricochet to cripple the breacher and pointman. I'm tired of seeing it and hearing about it.
shooting various gas tanks and producing huge, block engulfing flames- NO! propane doesn't explode unless it's "blown-up". igniting it just ignites it. most things are like that. gasoline CAN blow but is generally very weak... fuel-
ENHANCED ieds do produce quite a bit more heat and more brisance but are "blown-up" not ignited, which is why they work so well. if gas worked like it does on the movies, I'd be walking to work... ever had your car blow up from impact- probably not.
body armor stopping rifle rounds- (sapi plates do), most stuff (even military issue) doesn't stop a 30-30 too reliably and that's a slow round with a blunt nose.
sorry for ranting so much be I hate these types, here's a demonstration of the idiocracy permeating the shooting sports and RIGHTFULLY giving the hard left something to worry about- retards armed!
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/american-guns/ toward the end a "far-shot" is taken with a rifle, 50yds, wooooo. these people are your competition from the militia crowd.
