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Offline finisher

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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2012, 09:03:19 PM »
For those of you who think the military will allow itself to be turned loose on the general populace of this country, do you really have so little faith in our military men and women to believe they will en mass go against their indoctrination oath and attack their own families?  Anyone who actually believes this just as well lay down their arms, raise their hands and give up now.
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Depends. If the PR campaign and propaganda are as good as the one used to sell this current war to the (closed) minds of America; combined with a little fundamental hate and good old fashioned military programming, sure, I think quite a good chunk of the them would. I served in the Navy with guys that I'd swear would have slit their own brothers throat if Chief said "DOOOO IIIIT!!!! DO IT NOWWWW!!!"
I have asked a few marines that I know both active duty and retired, they all said with no hesitation they would follow orders, even against their friends and family. For what it's worth, hopefully they have their own unwritten code they don't discuss with civilians,but that gives me a chill up my spine to think they could fire on their own families.
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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2012, 09:10:45 PM »
Thanks finisher, I pray that the little guy will have the same chance at the american dream that I did. Work hard so your kids have a better life than you did, I have always worked for that, now it feels like its slipping away.

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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2012, 12:39:01 AM »
I'm ready.....let's roll....
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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2012, 12:52:10 AM »
Speaking of "bug out wheelbarrows".  I saw where a guy took a heavy duty golf bag cart and put a 30 gallon plastic barrel on it.  He put about 60 lbs of gear in it.  He could roll it through the woods behind him with an attachment on a belt around his waist.  He could carry his gun while pulling this cart behind him.  The gear stayed dry with the barrel. 
 
All I can say is for everyone to get ready.  If we don't put the brakes on government spending, we will go over the clift in 4-8 years.  Romney might put the brakes on and kick the can down the road a few more years.  He says he can cut at least $500 billion out of the budget and get it balanced in 8 years, but we still have fiat currency.  Once balanced, we need to switch back to a gold standard.  Stop all this roller coaster economy. 

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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2012, 02:34:09 AM »
the gold standard doesn't matter once the economy is ruined at a fundemental level, which is 3/4 done now.  you have to have an actual infrastructure in place to make money viable... you can't buy $1,000 loaves of bread if no one wants your money when another depression hits.

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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2012, 06:03:20 AM »

 
I would like to think the populace would come together and help one another to get by....but this ain't my Daddy's America anymore I fear....nor mine.
 
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« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2012, 09:11:13 AM »
Is there a war coming...?  Its already here; and has been for years.
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Its the "Soft War".....which is the war for the control of your mind by President Obama  for what you believe.  A Battle by The Children of Darkness.
 Essentially a war against Truth....and don't be a casualty.

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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2012, 09:34:55 AM »
I'm ready.....let's roll....


They will try to deplete our own private resources with economic hardships before they will try anything. We are already seeing that, family's that are now having to eat all that food they put away.
Selling off their guns and ammo just to make a house payment that just went up because of some phantom escrow reason.Its like they have us in a siege, soon all our resources will be all used up and we will have to come out and play by their rules. Any resistance will be played by the media as some cult, or some militia mad man that went off the deep end.


With his arsenal of a Ruger 10/22 and a brick of 22lr. Along with a stash of some canned goods he had in his pantry,he was indeed a very dangerous man. Who was taken out by 50 very brave officers who were loaded down with tactical weapons and combat assault gear ! Oh , there was no need for someone to just knock on the door and ask him to come out peacefully.
He needed to be thought a lesson ! Oh, he's dead now, oh well I guess we showed him!

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« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2012, 09:35:17 AM »
ARs that have all that garbage hanging off of them do look retarded.really ! I just know some want to be is going to think he is turning on a flash light and launch a fake grenade causing the guy next to him to flip on his lazer blind a jet jockey and cause a plane crash. Usually about as retarded as the owner. I always ask them which part of that gun is the Twinkie dispenser ? do they have these  ;D
I saw one once that was so bad it looked like one of those old Russian satellites, with all the weird things hanging all over it that you had no idea what they all did . That same AR even had a fixed mount for the guys iPhone and a drink holder ! He was watching Scooby Do on the iphone while telling us about what a retired commando killer he was. All 350 pounds of him, as he choked down a ham sandwich. Disgusting !
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« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2012, 10:10:11 AM »
I think they call guys like this , Mall Ninjas ! So be careful and be on the lookout !

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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2012, 11:53:20 AM »
With his arsenal of a Ruger 10/22 and a brick of 22lr. Along with a stash of some canned goods he had in his pantry,he was indeed a very dangerous man. Who was taken out by 50 very brave officers who were loaded down with tactical weapons and combat assault gear ! Oh , there was no need for someone to just knock on the door and ask him to come out peacefully.
He needed to be thought a lesson ! Oh, he's dead now, oh well I guess we showed him!

It will come to this.....
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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2012, 12:22:46 PM »
With his arsenal of a Ruger 10/22 and a brick of 22lr. Along with a stash of some canned goods he had in his pantry,he was indeed a very dangerous man. Who was taken out by 50 very brave officers who were loaded down with tactical weapons and combat assault gear ! Oh , there was no need for someone to just knock on the door and ask him to come out peacefully.
He needed to be thought a lesson ! Oh, he's dead now, oh well I guess we showed him!

It will come to this.....


Also discovered in the raid was subversive literature, indicating this man had every intention of going on a shooting rampage! ( guns & ammo).
Also taken down was a vicious attack dog belonging to the accused that attacked one of the officers, forcing him to shoot the animal out of fear for his life. (Chihuahua )
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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2012, 01:24:10 PM »
Never  happen  .,,   There   will  be  a  U.N.  blue  hat   on  every   corner  keeping  the  peace.

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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2012, 01:29:28 PM »
Never  happen  .,,   There   will  be  a  U.N.  blue  hat   on  every   corner  keeping  the  peace.


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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2012, 01:49:07 PM »
So much depends upon the nature of societal breakdown.. Gradual lessening of food supply can be handled by those who live far from urban centers.  Even those who have enough foresight to "leave before the rush" can stand a reasonable chance, but they should start cultivating rural friendships long before that day arrives..otherwise it will be the short end of the stick for them.
  EMP disabling all computer and advanced electronics systems would likely be the easiest for a rural dweller to survive and there will likely be no government to deal with for weeks or months.
  In both the above scenarios, roving gangs will be the greatest threat.  When people are hungry..they will be driven to "forage", and with a huge societal breakdown..they will not be constrained by the laws.  One man alone or with his family only, would find it difficult to survive.  We would have to be involved at the least in small communities or 'enclaves' just to make it.  So much depends upon where and when such an event transpires.  I have no illuisions that if this old man were forced tosuddenly "head to the woods" in the midst of a very cold winter here in NY State..I would not last long.
  I have been out hunting in near zero temperatures and have marveled at how the deer can withstand such weather..even with their hollow hair and nestling under pine boughs etc.  A major problem would be to forage , keep warm, and leave no trace..difficult to do in 2-3 feet of snow.   Of course, advanced preparation..such as a cave or dugout would be a great help.  Still'  I surely do not have the survival skills of  a traditional Eskimo..and he doesn't have to conceal his presence.
   Somewhat further south, e.g.Tennessee or the Carolinas or Florida swamps chances may improve, but I doubt real desert country in the midsummer is any more hospitable than a northern winter.  "Community" is about the only way to survive.
          With a government gone rogue..we only dream about how we would handle that..in such cases we would need some crash courses from Al Queda and the Taliban.. (as if they would help us) :D
  Then, more 'food for thought'..if we were to be hit by an EMP weapons attack, likely our attacker already has a follow up plan for conquering us..
BTW...No need getting a circus-built AR15..if the baloon really does go up..a sincle shot .22 centerfire and some clever use of camoflage...and you can soon have an assault rifle of your own..  ..At such a time a suppressor is more valuable than a big cxaliber.. ;)
 
  Here's a good read..it depicts an EMP attack scenario:
   http://www.amazon.com/One-Second-After-William-Forstchen/dp/0765317583#reader_0765317583
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« Reply #45 on: November 02, 2012, 08:40:11 PM »
Is there a war coming...?  Well yeah!  Except its already here; and has been for years and years. Almost every president has commented on a 'force' they had to deal with..from GW on down.
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Its the "Soft War".....which is the war for the control of your mind_ _what you believe. Battle of The Children of Darkness against The Children of Light. Essentially a war against Truth....and don't be a casualty.
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I agree, but this concept is a little too broad in scope for the average "Joe" to grasp. Gotta keep it narrow and right in front of ones face for most people to understand anything. Kinda of the same way one would lead herd animals.

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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #46 on: November 03, 2012, 12:15:44 AM »
Is there a war coming...?  Well yeah!  Except its already here; and has been for years and years. Almost every president has commented on a 'force' they had to deal with..from GW on down.
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Its the "Soft War".....which is the war for the control of your mind_ _what you believe. Battle of The Children of Darkness against The Children of Light. Essentially a war against Truth....and don't be a casualty.
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I agree, but this concept is a little too broad in scope for the average "Joe" to grasp. Gotta keep it narrow and right in front of ones face for most people to understand anything. Kinda of the same way one would lead herd animals.
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   Now, there is an excellent example of liberal/elitist tripe; completely convinced that their intellect is so far above and beyond "the masses"!  Can you two guys possibly picture how your last two posts sound?  Does it occur to you that others here have ideas of their own, and while thay may not agree with you entirely, their thoughts are no less valid?
    How pompous of you two, to sit in judgement of everyone else!  You both sound like cookie-cutter copies of  the phony-in-chief !
   Here's a message for you; ..contributors such as..Bob Riebe, Anna, Swampy, McBammer, Shootall, BBF, Dixie Dude, Mirage 1988, Squib, Cleburn, Graybeard, Old Syko, 45/70 ..and all the rest, have undoubtedly thought long about the "big picture"..and if perchance they don't agree with your conclusions..that doesn't mean they are each some kind of ignorant ape!
     Perhaps now is a good time to climb down from your pompous perches of self-imposed superiority..and join those of us who do not consider themselves to be superior beings, but simply "average Joes", who nonetheless have a clean grasp on what is right and what is wrong.
 
  BTW:   Excuse me!  ..But the rest of us are not "a herd of animals"....
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« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2012, 12:42:01 AM »
If I am an average Joe, hmm.  I have an IQ of 142.  I had a GPA in college of 3.75.  Must be stupid.  I just happen to see the world from a Christian World View.  We are the "salt of the earth" as Jesus said, to keep it palatable before God.  America was seasoned with christianity.  As long as she adhered to christian principles we were blessed with abundance and power.  America in the last 50 years or so has turned it's back on God, starting in 1963 by taking God and prayer out of school.  What happened after that, the Vietnam war, the hippie movement, drug use, free sex, taking away the chruch and charities role of taking care of the poor with the welfare system, the breakdown of the family with the subsequent problems of teen violence, divorce, child abuse, spousal abuse, greed by both wall street and being government dependent (you owe me), power hungry people in government (EPA, NEA, OSHA, etc) and corporate leaders, manufacturing moving overseas, giving up our freedoms for security (homeland security), the list goes on. 
 
"If my people will humble themselves and pray, I will heal their land".  Doesn't matter what chruch, denomination, or whatever, just following the basic christian principles, God will delay His removal from our lives and our nation with the subsequent judgements. 

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« Reply #48 on: November 03, 2012, 03:06:41 AM »
Dixie Dude,  I agree.
 
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« Reply #49 on: November 03, 2012, 03:12:53 AM »
DD;
      I dislike boastfulness and am reluctant to join in saying that the military told me that my IQ was 145+..giving no exact figure..  Needless to say IQ is not the end-all be-all..and although some of my college was completed by tests..my opinions are no more superior to any other thinking person's.
  I too endorse the Christian model, simply because it has proven itself to be true and success producing when followed as the founder laid out.  Beyond the practical aspects, there is the faith aspect which as Jesus explained..many will never get. (John 14:6)
  Nevertheless, each can make their own choice, and although I think the way of Christ is the true way, if another doesn't think so..that's their choice and I would not try to stifle them ..as certain individuals have tried to stifle Christians in recent years.  They won't completely succeed: 
   
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« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2012, 04:12:26 AM »
Is there a war coming...?  Its already here; and has been for years.
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Its the "Soft War".....which is the war for the control of your mind by President Obama  for what you believe.  A Battle by The Children of Darkness.
 Essentially a war against Truth....and don't be a casualty.

I agree with this 100%
Lies are told over and over for years and the truth is not spoken. The Bible is tossed out of schools, where it once was a required book in school. School text books are rewritten to suppress truth. Politicians and the media suppress the truth. Newspaper editors suppress the truth. Even the Holy Bible is rewritten in certain versions to suppress the truth. Eventually we end up with a society clueless of what the truth is. Many today believe there is no absolute truth. They have been told and taught that whatever they do or think is the truth. Sadly there are already many casualties in the war against truth. Its the reason we have a government like we have. The absolute truth comes from God's word, and unless we get that back, the brick wall will continue to get closer.     
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« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2012, 05:22:56 AM »
''Should i be scary of this militia movement  because what i have seen so far all signs ''


scared  is a fram of  mind
not  being prepared  is STUPID


i have a few thousand  22 ammo....prepared for SHTF   or a simple price increase
i cast my own  ammo  and stock  extra primers and powder


mostly  i have  invested  in my RETIREMENT
and  i am prepared  to live a long  UNEVENTFUL life.....[tho never  boring]


i  also   CHOOSE  not to be scared.....only prepared...but in the end we  all die
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
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« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2012, 06:40:53 AM »
I think the likely hood of having two people in this small sample with an IQ in the 99.7 percentile is BS.  You guys are funny.

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« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2012, 07:48:44 AM »
Oh there is a big war coming alright. And the commander of the army that wins is not going to be that
kind,soft spoken carpenter that we all remember him as.
Guns, bullets, bombs, even nukes are not going to matter one bit.The only thing that we can do about it is, what side are we are going to be on when it happens ?

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« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2012, 10:39:13 AM »
Wow, i did not think there many posts.   One thing i will said about Hurricane Sandy ravaged the East Coast is that i those people should have been ready. Livening here in FL i have to keep a bug out/bug in kit ready because Hurricanes and storms or stuff like that happens all the time. Yeah i don't have a car or a firearm but i do keep
3-7 days of food(dry goods) and dinking stuff (water, power aid, High C)

big  Medical Kit (3 LB of stuff in it)



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Battery-powered radios and flashlights

Plenty of batteries

Extra cash (i have a water poof safe)

Blankets, sleeping bags and all kinds of gear. More than once we had to spare some of our stuff to people that needed it when things have happen(the med kit has got lots of uses   with a neighbor)
 
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« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2012, 11:57:29 AM »
Hurricane survivors like this guy could teach the rest of us a lot of common sense things.
With them it is like a cowboy saying that goes around out here .
They have been there done that , bought the tee shirt, and they have wore it out .
But Jamaldog, did you happen to leave out two very important things ?
Those being toothpaste and toilet paper ? lol

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« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2012, 03:17:41 PM »
Keep in mind that hurricane Sandy was not a major storm. As hurricanes go, it was only a category one. The hurricane force winds and heavy rain bands were only 40 miles offshore when it went past me.  I took no abnormal precautions, as I have water , food, and fuel to last 2 weeks.  In Florida, storms of this magnitude are a relatively frequent occurrance.
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« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2012, 04:34:39 PM »
Keep in mind that hurricane Sandy was not a major storm. As hurricanes go, it was only a category one. The hurricane force winds and heavy rain bands were only 40 miles offshore when it went past me.  I took no abnormal precautions, as I have water , food, and fuel to last 2 weeks.  In Florida, storms of this magnitude are a relatively frequent occurrance.

The news had only been calling it a "Super Storm" and the "perfect storm" for at least a week.   

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« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2012, 04:34:48 PM »
Is there a war coming...?  Well yeah!  Except its already here; and has been for years and years. Almost every president has commented on a 'force' they had to deal with..from GW on down.
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Its the "Soft War".....which is the war for the control of your mind_ _what you believe. Battle of The Children of Darkness against The Children of Light. Essentially a war against Truth....and don't be a casualty.
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I agree, but this concept is a little too broad in scope for the average "Joe" to grasp. Gotta keep it narrow and right in front of ones face for most people to understand anything. Kinda of the same way one would lead herd animals.
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   Now, there is an excellent example of liberal/elitist tripe; completely convinced that their intellect is so far above and beyond "the masses"!  Can you two guys possibly picture how your last two posts sound? Depends upon the the egoes and sensitivities of those reading.
Does it occur to you that others here have ideas of their own, and while thay may not agree with you entirely, their thoughts are no less valid? Validity walks hand in hand with relativity, but the latter is all too often overlooked or ignored.
    How pompous of you two, to sit in judgement of everyone else!  You both sound like cookie-cutter copies of  the phony-in-chief ! Based upon many of your posts in the past, your're the last one IG, that should be throwing stones in JUDGEMENT of anyone.
   Here's a message for you; ..contributors such as..Bob Riebe, Anna, Swampy, McBammer, Shootall, BBF, Dixie Dude, Mirage 1988, Squib, Cleburn, Graybeard, Old Syko, 45/70 ..and all the rest, have undoubtedly thought long about the "big picture"..and if perchance they don't agree with your conclusions..that doesn't mean they are each some kind of ignorant ape! Nice "rally" tactic. Powerful tool. Wield it wisely.  In neither of the two posts (that seem to have your feathers so ruffled) was there any direct attack upon anyone specific as the statements were made as generalizations. I would not have expected you IG to expose your (emotional poker) hand so easily.
     Perhaps now is a good time to climb down from your pompous perches of self-imposed superiority..Where exactly have the claims to such status been made? And as far as IMPOSITION goes, I have remained silent for far too much of my life while others IMPOSED their moral and religious ideology upon me when I have done nothing in any physical way to them.
and join those of us who do not consider themselves to be superior beings, but simply "average Joes", who nonetheless have a clean grasp on what is right and what is wrong. Now that sounds pretty damn... what did you say?- POMPOUS.

  BTW:   Excuse me!  ..But the rest of us are not "a herd of animals".... Never said this
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All right, since I'm going to be quoted out of context and possibly be facing a witch hunting rally, I'll get down to it.


IG, you have much wisdom to offer and I have read and respected it quite often. But that admiration only goes as far what I read from the man (you) alone, completely stripped of the religious and political ideology.


You have said things on this site that have stopped me in my tracks and really made me re think. But this has not been one of those occasions.


My wife (who is an extremely spiritual person in her own way) reads some of the political and religious rhetoric on this site and asks me,"why do you bother?"


And this topic "is a war coming in the USA" is more or less the reason that I explain to her.


Because people are different and think differently and have different beliefs. And that there are those out there who would judge and condemn others and push to legislate IMPOSITION upon any one who does not think and do exactly as they do or according to what their interpretation of a hand full of ancient documents may say.


Ancient documents passed down and written by people who claimed to be the mouth pieces of God himself and yet didn't even know that the Earth orbited the sun instead of the other way around or that the Earth was round instead of flat.


And I tell her that these people are not just the ones overseas of whom the shiny glow box tells us we should be so afraid. No. They are right here as well and everywhere. I tell her that it is not about religion or faith but about the IMPOSITION OF POWER, OF SOMEONE ELSE'S WILL OVER YOUR RIGHT TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY WISH.


And on this note, I bring up the issue of CONTRADICTIONS in what people preach and what their actions and attitudes reflect, and how many of us fail to see these CONTRADICTIONS.


YOU CAN BLAME WHO OR WHAT EVER YOU WANT; go on pointing fingers all day. It was the "lefties" faults, it was the "bible thumpers" faults. Here's the classic; it's Obama's fault. Yep! It is ALL HIS SOLE RESPONSIBILITY as if the past fifty years just never happened.


"Why do you bother" she asks.
Because I'm trying to figure out if when things go really bad, if their is anyone out there in whom I can depend upon to treat my family, my children, my (QUEENS) ENGLISH speaking; fought, bled and killed for this government(right or wrong) veteran family members as HUMAN BEINGS FIRST before judging them on sight as a brown skinned non believing liberal whatever childish name calling rhetoric you want to use.


And judging from what I've read, I really think that we're gonna be on our own. God help us.
YEAH IG, I do believe. Just not from the same perspective as you or the rest of the great majority of Christians, Muslims, Jews, or any other mainstream form of faith.


I search for truth and find that I get damned every time I open my mouth to share things with people. There is so much MORE out there that is hidden from all of us and it seems that we (in general) have no desire to seek it out; being quite comfortable in the "Single Book Bubble" (there it is again, the offensive "B" word) that seems to work quite well for us all in a (RELATIVELY) immediate sense.


I have not claimed any superiority over anyone, far from it. You don't know me or bear the shame of the things I've done. Nor will I answer to you or anyone other than my maker. And as long as there are those that live on this Earth with this notion that they're going to impose their interpretations of some very limited sources of information , with the intent of creating a so called "Heaven on Earth", there will always be resent, resulting in hatred, resulting in fear and in the end resulting in war and suffering.


For those that claim to believe so strongly (and this applies world wide) and yet are so concerned with IMPOSING their views on others, I have to be suspect as to the true depth of their so claimed faith. Because why would they be so focused with forcing the other guy to do what they want him to do here on this Earth, rather than preparing themselves mentally and spiritually for the "Here After"... unless, DEEEP dowwwn inside, there may be just a hint of doubt?


Maybe it is a lie, maybe I've got it wrong and the other guy is right. Questions that could drive anyone insane when pondered long enough and without enough information and searching upon which to formulate a sound belief.


No. I don't think I'm better than any one. I only "SEE" a great many things that I wish I could not. Other men of strong but different faiths described it to me as a "gift". But for me, it's more like a curse. Because I can SEE what is already here and has been here for quite a long time.


And unless we all, as HUMAN BEINGS start to see beyond what's in front of our faces and beyond the scope of our blinders there is NOTHING that you or I or any of the self proclaimed "faithful" can do to change it on this Earth. 
My experience in this life has been generous in experience and knowledge. I'm quite prepared to go if it should happen at this mid point stage of my life. I hope it's true about what they say we all take with us because I've quite a few interesting observations to report.


Like Always, Peace to you Ironglow.

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Re: is there a war coming in the USA??
« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2012, 04:48:20 PM »
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Said Andrew was a 5 and about 80 miles wide, Sandy was a 1 but 300+ miles wide.

Around here, if the weather gets bad, folks stock up on milk and bread. Wife buys it, even though we don't really eat milk and bread, because that's what you do in times of crisis. I rent DVDs.
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