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Utility workers return home because not union affiliated.
« on: November 02, 2012, 07:51:18 AM »
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Re: Utility workers return home because not union affiliated.
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2012, 07:55:32 AM »
That's an email address. Do you have a web link?
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Re: Utility workers return home because not union affiliated.
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2012, 08:07:13 AM »
http://www.waff.com/story/19981857/some-nonunion-ala-crews-turned-away-from-sandy-recovery


Our utility provider won't send help. They'll send any extra parts they may have but they won't send crews. They learned from the brown outs from the 70's that the unions control everything up north. They won't waste the money on fuel sending trucks they know will be turned away. Hope you yanks like yer union BS now.
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Re: Utility workers return home because not union affiliated.
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2012, 08:28:53 AM »
Ahhh unions. ::)   They have lost the view of the big pic, haven't they.  Better working enviromnents and conditions for the workers.  Not milk the system for every last penny.  That's pretty much disgusting that they would turn away help for those that really need it.  Damn shame.
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Re: Utility workers return home because not union affiliated.
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2012, 08:30:55 AM »
Not a lineman, but if I were, I would take comfort knowing the guy that may be on the hot end of the line I was working on had the same training I had.
Can't say this is a bad thing from a safety perspective.
The goal is to be able to go home at the send of the day.
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Re: Utility workers return home because not union affiliated.
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2012, 08:34:30 AM »
Quote from: Larry L on November 02, 2012, 08:07:13 AM
http://www.waff.com/story/19981857/some-nonunion-ala-crews-turned-away-from-sandy-recovery


Our utility provider won't send help. They'll send any extra parts they may have but they won't send crews. They learned from the brown outs from the 70's that the unions control everything up north. They won't waste the money on fuel sending trucks they know will be turned away. Hope you yanks like yer union BS now.


My bother says they are sitting in a hotel in Maryland waiting to be told what to do. Their trucks outside loaded with parts and supply's,and most the guys now just want to come home .
But he did say guys, it isn't the people's fault.They have gone overboard being kind and bringing them
things to eat and drink.They even brought them a whole bunch of CD movies to watch to help with the boredom.They see all kinds of things they could fix and get up and going in less than a day.
But they have been told hands off until told otherwise.
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2012, 08:43:34 AM »
Quote from: PowPow on November 02, 2012, 08:30:55 AM
Not a lineman, but if I were, I would take comfort knowing the guy that may be on the hot end of the line I was working on had the same training I had.
Can't say this is a bad thing from a safety perspective.
The goal is to be able to go home at the send of the day.
That sounds good but incase you don't know unions will work other trades as example the pipefitters / plumbers in New York was working a frind of mine on a travel card. When the taxi drivers went on strike they sent him home and filled openings with cab drivers . This happens all the time . My uncle was always working as electrican , Iron worker or mill wright depending on which union needed him and who was on strike . He was an elevator man by trade . Keep believing union workers are safer  ::)
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Re: Utility workers return home because not union affiliated.
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2012, 08:48:51 AM »
Quote from: PowPow on November 02, 2012, 08:30:55 AM
Not a lineman, but if I were, I would take comfort knowing the guy that may be on the hot end of the line I was working on had the same training I had.
Can't say this is a bad thing from a safety perspective.
The goal is to be able to go home at the send of the day.

 
LOL! The non-union tradesmen are just as trained and qualified as the union boys... Never saw this type of thing when Katrina hit.  This will come back to bite the unions as it should.   Right around election day, I love it!
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 08:51:16 AM »
Quote from: Buckskin on November 02, 2012, 08:48:51 AM
Quote from: PowPow on November 02, 2012, 08:30:55 AM
Not a lineman, but if I were, I would take comfort knowing the guy that may be on the hot end of the line I was working on had the same training I had.
Can't say this is a bad thing from a safety perspective.
The goal is to be able to go home at the send of the day.

 
LOL! The non-union tradesmen are just as trained and qualified as the union boys... Never saw this type of thing when Katrina hit.  This will come back to bite the unions as it should.   Right around election day, I love it!

keep in mind in NJ you can't pump your own gas  ;)
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Re: Utility workers return home because not union affiliated.
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 09:04:46 AM »
Quote from: Buckskin on November 02, 2012, 08:48:51 AM
Quote from: PowPow on November 02, 2012, 08:30:55 AM
Not a lineman, but if I were, I would take comfort knowing the guy that may be on the hot end of the line I was working on had the same training I had.
Can't say this is a bad thing from a safety perspective.
The goal is to be able to go home at the send of the day.

 
LOL! The non-union tradesmen are just as trained and qualified as the union boys... Never saw this type of thing when Katrina hit.  This will come back to bite the unions as it should.   Right around election day, I love it!


Some of those places are now saying that they are not going to help with any of the transportation  cost that it took some of these crews to get there. Boy, we are sure trying to make friends in all the wrong places!
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2012, 09:08:03 AM »
what was that bumper sticker ? hummmm   "We don't give a D--- how you do it up north "
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2012, 10:49:13 AM »
Good ole unions. Millions of people without power. Crews come from other states to help get power back on, and good ole union boys turn them away. This is the mentality of unions, they only care about themselves. To heck with all the people without power and heat, just so those scabs don't take any of our overtime. Somebody needs to grow a set and tell these union thugs how it is. They need to be told to shut their mouths, these willing non union crews are going to help get our power back on.
Where is Bloomberg, Mr. nanny state himself? Why is he being silent on this? Why is Obama being silent about this. Obama loves to pretend that he really cares. I forgot, they wouldn't dare speak out against unions. They might loose some votes. All Obama has done is used the storm damage for a photo shoot, and a campaign tool. This to me is really sickening, that these unions are allowed to get away with this kind of crap.   

You are correct Buckskin, those non union personal are every bit as competent as the union employees. Its a fallacy that non union people are untrained and can't do as good of job. If I had a guess you would get the job done faster it would be the non union guys.         
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 11:03:08 AM »
My company is asking for volunteers to go fix gas lines.  We are unionized, but only about half the workers are in the union, because in Alabama you don't have to be if you don't want to be.  That being said, only union volunteers can go.  We helped in Katrina, but didn't matter down there.  Our crews helped in southern Mississippi. 
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2012, 11:48:11 AM »
You are correct Buckskin, those non union personal are every bit as competent as the union employees. Its a fallacy that non union people are untrained and can't do as good of job. If I had a guess you would get the job done faster it would be the non union guys.       




In some cases I would have to say more competent, if they screw up they can get fired on the spot!
Most their equipment is practically new, and about the best there is.There isn't a whole lot of room for
a$$ kissers,you do your job or your out. Plus they take pride in the company and not some union.
It is sad that some of these people out east are out of power,gas,with a cold front coming in.
And they see entire crews and equipment from a lot of other states all set to go, but can't. Where is a Obama, he could order a stop to all of this.  Rush had people on his show today telling us just how bad it is, and it is at a boiling point. With temps expected to start dropping,with another storm coming in people could die over this.Trains can't even get in because of debris all over the tracks.
Paramedics will be the next ones to be turned away you watch, they are saying some buildings are on the verge of collapsing with people still inside to get out of the cold.


 
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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 12:07:48 PM »
An indication of what a retard Bloomberg is. He was insisting that the NY city marathon would be run, directing police and other resources away from storm damaged areas. I guess just awhile ago he said the marathon would be canceled. I'm sure only because of the heat that was put on him for such a stupid decision to continue the marathon. You can really tell he cares about all the people with out power. Just like many other politicians, they act like they care about people's well being, but really could give a rats a** about them. If he doesn't do something about letting these crews into the state to restore power. He should be strung up in the nearest tree.
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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2012, 01:43:16 PM »
If I were one of those union linemen I wouldn't want those other crews coming in either. When they're outworking you on a regular basis I'm sure it can get a little embarrassing.
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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2012, 01:50:57 PM »
Quote from: hunt-m-up on November 02, 2012, 01:43:16 PM
If I were one of those union linemen I wouldn't want those other crews coming in either. When they're outworking you on a regular basis I'm sure it can get a little embarrassing.


Amen


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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2012, 03:36:39 PM »
Same thing happened here a couple of years ago after some high winds came through. Took them twice as long to return service without the extra help and equipment, but they didn't care. It is all about who makes the money, even in a disaster. JamesIII
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2012, 09:52:52 AM »
  It appears there is only 1 company that is having this problem and there from Alabama. Its also from just a few of that one companies boys.  it seems this crew couldnt handle the pressure and went home.  Like the guy doing the interview says its probably being blown way out of proportion.  Maybe?  If these Boys cant handle the pressure they should go home where they can whine to Mama. Thats about all they have done for the last 130+ years anyway.   I'm still seeing Tenn, Kentucky and many more helpful states as well as Canadian crews doing a great job.
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2012, 11:10:28 AM »

When a storm hits Alabama, we get help from Georgia, NC, Missouri, as far away as Iowa, ND, and while we do pay for it, we appreciate what they do. Homeowners will take them drinks and food out of appreciation.
The local crews want to get back to normal family life; they appreciate the help

Over 1000 power company folks from Alabama are in the NE.
Maybe they should stay here next time, huh GMB?


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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2012, 11:34:04 AM »
     I find it incredible that when your own countrymen and women are in dire need of help so many people are pissing and moaning about long finished wars , political rivalries ,religious differences ect ect ect.  :( Natural disasters  can effect us all at some time in our lives .
     People need to  take a positive step , put all their differences aside , at least for a while , roll up their shirt sleeves and help out in ANY way they can . Sadly , some people find in easier to sit on the fence , helping no one . Just being thankfull the hurricane ,earthquake , twister or whatever didn't hit their house . Next time it could be .
     
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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2012, 12:55:44 PM »
Damn   reporter  should  be   fired. >:( >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2012, 03:41:30 PM »
Quote from: PowPow on November 03, 2012, 11:10:28 AM

When a storm hits Alabama, we get help from Georgia, NC, Missouri, as far away as Iowa, ND, and while we do pay for it, we appreciate what they do. Homeowners will take them drinks and food out of appreciation.
The local crews want to get back to normal family life; they appreciate the help

Over 1000 power company folks from Alabama are in the NE.
Maybe they should stay here next time, huh GMB?

PowPow   Not at all, There help is much appreciated and Im sure there doing a great job whatever it is.  They obviously came to generously helpout .  Im sure youll find they will be thanked many times as they should be and more .  As I said before it was only a few Boys that seemed to have a problem and as was said in the interview it was blown way out of proportion.   
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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2012, 03:12:39 AM »
i worked as a union parasite for 12 years






quit when i found out how much they slept with democrats
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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2012, 03:33:52 AM »
Guys, here is what is weird.  The guy in charge of Decatur Utilities that was on TV and was turned away in New Jersey.  I trained the guy as a co-op student from Auburn University back in the early 90's.  Now he is in charge of the utilities up there in north Alabama.  Weird world.  He graduated with a high GPA in engineering from AU.  Stayed with my company for about 10 years and was moving up the ladder when he quit to take that job. 
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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2012, 05:03:30 AM »
call  him.....  see what he says
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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2012, 06:14:02 AM »
Might, haven't seen him in about 15 years.  He had a run in with the union when he was with my company.  He didn't know the "rules" when he became manager.  I had a run in with a guy right after I first started.  I was inspecting and I am salary, so I helped a contractor load some small stuff on his truck.  Guy saw me and threatened to file a grevance, but since I was new, he didn't.  It was his job to help load stuff.  He was gone at the time, and contractor needed to get back to work as his crew was waiting on some supplies.  About half my company isn't union, most don't want to pay the dues, and supervisors are good to everyone.  No problems.  However, you have to respect each others jobs. 
 
Reporter was probably from Huntsville and though they were all the same utility, but they have a seperate utility company from Decatur.  Decatur was the one which had union problems.  Pay wasn't the issue, probably not being union had to be supervised by a union crew and sign some type of union agreement which the director of the utilities didn't want to, knowing him, probably hates unions. 
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2012, 12:34:56 PM »
TM,   you haven't seen some of the ignorant union workers  i have worked with
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2012, 01:51:14 PM »
Quote from: 45-70.gov on November 05, 2012, 12:34:56 PM
TM,   you haven't seen some of the ignorant union workers  i have worked with

I'll second that. Its kind of what made this story so believable.
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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2012, 02:25:04 PM »
Ignorants is believing a piece of crap story like this. Bigfoot is more believable.
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