MD voters to decide whether in state tuition applies to criminal invaders.

[powderman]

Maryland voters to decide whether in-state tuition applies to illegal immigrants  By Douglas Kennedy
Published November 02, 2012
FoxNews.com   

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  Ricky Campos was at the top of his high school class in Silver Spring, Md.
"I worked very hard," he said recently. "I like learning."
But unlike other high-achieving Maryland teenagers, Campos is barred from receiving in-state tuition rates at The University of Maryland, his first choice of colleges. The problem? His parents are illegal immigrants, having entered the country from El Salvador when he was 12 years old.
 
Campos says he feels no different from his "legal" classmates in the state.  "I lived in Maryland for last 10 years. I feel fully American," he said.
But some worry that opening the door for people like Campos to receive in-state tuition could invite a mass "giveaway" to illegal immigrants at taxpayers' expense.
On Nov. 6, Maryland voters will decide the issue. A ballot measure called The Maryland Dream Act will determine whether illegal immigrants can receive in-state tuition rates at state colleges.
"These are Maryland children from Maryland families," explained Mary Ellen Russell, from the Maryland Catholic Conference. "They deserve to pay in-state tuition like other Maryland residents."
 
Russell's group is a strong supporter of the measure, which had been passed by the Maryland state legislature and signed into law by Gov. Martin O'Malley in May 2011.
Anti-immigration groups contested the law and collected enough signatures to place it on Maryland's November ballot, which state law allows.
 
"It's just another part of this giveaway to non-citizens in the state," said Brad Botwin, from Help Save Maryland. "Meanwhile it's eating up the resources needed for Maryland citizens."
Botwin says the measure will add "millions of dollars" to Maryland taxpayers' bill, estimating each "illegal" student will cost an extra $18,000 if they pay in-state tuition rates.
"The state is going bankrupt," he said. "It's not fair to taxpayers."
 
But Russell countered, "We need to look at these students as taxpayers."
Russell points out, in order to qualify, students have to prove they or their parents have filed state income taxes for three years. She also says students will have to have attended a Maryland high school for the same period.
 
"They are not getting anything special," she said. "(They have to show) they have been doing the right thing, that they are indeed Marylanders. Basically they are being allowed to pay the same rate as any other Maryland resident."
But Botwin's not buying it. He says Maryland's "Dream Act" will only lead to more illegal immigration. "It will attract more families to come up," he said, arguing that would deprive "legal" students of a spot at state colleges. And besides he said, illegal immigrants are simply a "bad investment."
 
"At the end of the day, they're not allowed to work -- that's illegal (in both) federal and state law. They can't vote and they can't get a driver's license."
Campos disagrees. He says he looks forward to the future as a "Marylander and American."
"I want to become a doctor," he said, "and I want to contribute to this great society."

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[two-blocked]

God forbid they give a kid who graduated at the top of his class a break on tuition.  Why can't he learn to sell drugs, steal cars and get free medical and food stamps like the rest of them.

[powderman]

This shouldn't even be a question. We owe invaders NOTHING. What part of the word ILLEGAL is so hard to understand ?? POWDERMAN. 

[Brett]

Lets give the kid his tuition and deport his parents.  It's not the kids fault his parents are here illegally.   

[yellowtail3]

I say let the kid in, give him a ride... we'll benefit as a nation from having him here.

[m-g Willy]

I say let the kid in, give him a ride... we'll benefit as a nation from having him here.

Yeah , let the illegal in,, give him a free ride and let my kid bust his ass working  his way through school.
My kid who has a family line of men that fought in every major war this country ever fought going back to and including the revolutionary war doesn't deserve any thing from this country.
Not when pedro who isn't even allowed to be here thinks he  deserves it !!!!
 

[yellowtail3]

Yeah , let the illegal in,, give him a free ride and let my kid bust his ass working  his way through school.
My kid who has a family line of men that fought in every major war this country ever fought going back to and including the revolutionary war doesn't deserve any thing from this country.
Not when pedro who isn't even allowed to be here thinks he  deserves it !!!!

You kid doesn't get in on he granddaddy's potato peelin' in the army - that's not merit. Pedro, in this case, gets in because he's a sharp, hard-working kid WHO GRADUATED AT THE TOP OF HIS CLASS.

Tell you boy to work harder, and he might make it, too.

[powderman]

I say let the kid in, give him a ride... we'll benefit as a nation from having him here.

Yeah , let the illegal in,, give him a free ride and let my kid bust his ass working  his way through school.
My kid who has a family line of men that fought in every major war this country ever fought going back to and including the revolutionary war doesn't deserve any thing from this country.
Not when pedro who isn't even allowed to be here thinks he  deserves it !!!!

 
M-G-WILLY. Another good post Sir. POWDERMAN. 

[m-g Willy]

Yeah , let the illegal in,, give him a free ride and let my kid bust his ass working  his way through school.
My kid who has a family line of men that fought in every major war this country ever fought going back to and including the revolutionary war doesn't deserve any thing from this country.
Not when pedro who isn't even allowed to be here thinks he  deserves it !!!!

You kid doesn't get in on he granddaddy's potato peelin' in the army - that's not merit. Pedro, in this case, gets in because he's a sharp, hard-working kid WHO GRADUATED AT THE TOP OF HIS CLASS.

Tell you boy to work harder, and he might make it, too.

Pedro isn't even supposed to be in this country.
But yet you think he needs to be treated BETTER  than true US citizens.
WHY?
And your comment about my family, just shows your lack of class, and respect for the men that served this country.
And if you were ever in any service , you might have spent all your time peeling potatos,,,,but not everyone could hide behind the lines.
I know you couldn't care less about the American serviceman,,, but for your info,, my Dad failed to mention anything about peeling potatos when he was shot down over Germany in WWII.
And my grandfather forgot to tell me anything about his potato peeling while being knee deep in muck in the trench in WWI.
Don't know much about my gg grandfather Anson except he was with Sherman in the Civil War.
And I never even seen a raw potato let alone had to peel any when I was in Uncle Sam's employment.
And my boy never mentioned anything to me about peeling potatos in the sand box.
So you can take your hate for America , and go to hell .
 
 
 
 
 

[yellowtail3]

Pedro isn't even supposed to be in this country.
But yet you think he needs to be treated BETTER  than true US citizens.
WHY?

Well, that's not what I think, Willy. As I understood, the kid in question was looking at getting a scholarship based upon his superb showing in HS - correct? Has nothing to do with where he was born, it was all about merit - right?

And your comment about my family, just shows your lack of class...

Willy, you brought up your son in argument for denying some deserving, hard-working and high-achieving kid an education... I simply responded to your argument, using same subject matter. Is there a problem with that?

...and respect for the men that served this country.

I am one of the men who served this country

And if you were ever in any service , you might have spent all your time peeling potatos,,,,but not everyone could hide behind the lines.

There's nothing dishonorable about peelin' potatoes. Truth is, I lucked out and didn't do any mess crankin' on any of the ships or stations I was on... RHIP.

I know you couldn't care less about the American serviceman...

I grew up in the service and served, so you can shop your cheap slogans somewhere else... they're pretty flaccid here.

Don't know much about my gg grandfather Anson except he was with Sherman in the Civil War.

oh geeezzzzzz... you're gonna admit a Yankee in the family who came down south to kill cow and steal chickens and pigs, and burn the farms of American families?

So you can take your hate for America , and go to hell!

Oh my... are you a Christian who actually believes in hell, or were you just trying to come up with something nasty to say?

[m-g Willy]

What part of "He should not be in the country " don't you understand ?
That, and why should American tax payers be paying for him to go to school?
You liberals are great at spending other peoples money.
If you think pedro needs an education ,,then why don't you adopt him ,and then YOU can work hard and pay for his schooling.
I'm sure with all the love you have for anyone that isn't an American you would be more than willing to help pedro.
Unless you are just another lib that likes to tell everyone that works for their money, how they should spend it , while never putting your hand into your own pocket to help anyone.
 
 
 

[powderman]

M-G-WILLY. More good posts Sir I agree with them all. Just consider the source of the slop being thrown around and ignore it. I actually find amusement in the hate Chrisians, hate our military, and hate America garbage of this individual. Pathetic?? You bet, but all it does is make the slop slinger look even more stupid. Just don't bite, it'll quit fishing. POWDERMAN. 

[yellowtail3]

Just consider the source of the slop being thrown around and ignore it. I actually find amusement in the hate Chrisians, hate our military, and hate America garbage of this individual. Pathetic?? You bet, but all it does is make the slop slinger look even more stupid.

Was there anything there relevant to the topic, which is whether a kid (Ricky Campos) who has lived half his life here, who graduated at the TOP OF HIS CLASS (smarter than a bunch of Real 'Mericans, apparently) should be denied admission to university/in-state tuition, because his parents immigrated illegally? I think that's the topic, isn't it?

Just don't bite, it'll quit fishing. POWDERMAN. 

I understand that you want to change the topic to me, Powderman, and push your boycott... but that's getting kind of personal, isn't it? Or is this your private board?