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Good morning. Welcome to the nanny state.
« on: November 06, 2012, 05:58:57 PM »
The country you once knew is no more.

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Re: Good morning. Welcome to the nanny state.
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2012, 06:17:59 PM »
Amen

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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2012, 06:47:42 PM »
Lock-n-load!
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Re: Good morning. Welcome to the nanny state.
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2012, 09:17:24 PM »
Stupid is as stupid does!
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Re: Good morning. Welcome to the nanny state.
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2012, 11:31:19 PM »
I'm at a loss for words.  :'(
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2012, 11:40:06 PM »
my heart hurts for what my children must now face.

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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2012, 12:11:07 AM »
  How many can one nanny wetnurse...when her milk is already nearly dried up?  How long will it take before he finishes enacting   " The Dreams from His Father"?
 
   Today, we have two groups of voters..one saddened the other elated.  They are much like two betting type fellows standing on the open deck of the Titanic after the last lifeboat has pulled away...  One guy says" I bet $10 she sinks".. The other fellow says, "you're on, I bet $10 she doesn't sink"!
    Outcome? ...First guy wins $10 !          ...But what sank to the mud on the bottom...and what did they both lose?   
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2012, 02:11:53 AM »
I have been saying all along that the worst thing that could happen would be for BHO to be taken out by something, or someone.  It would make him an automatic hero.  I take all that back.
 
I'm begging for a liberal to tell us how all of this works.  Please explain where the money comes from to overcome $1.3 trillion per year in deficit.  What is going to happen when we come up against the next debt limit?  At what point is our money totally worthless?  Are there any Dumycrats that made it past third grade arithmatic? 
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2012, 03:24:47 AM »
Magooch:
 
The deficit is being paid back in two ways:
1) Printing money so that any savings you have are worth less
2) Keeping interest rates low so that the government's cost of servicing the debts remains low.
 
In both cases, you're screwed.
 
As for limits, the country has already hit a limit. There is essentially no more spending that US can do. Not that they won't try, but it's a lot harder than it used to be.
 
One of the major things that needs to play out during the next year or so is what happens to the 1.5 trillion in excess reserve deposits at federal reserve banks and two trillion of cash equivalents that are held by companies. This money is not being spent or put to work. Companies want to use it, but have been holding back because of the uncertainty in the US political climate.
 
My take on it is that a lot more jobs will be leaving US and not coming back. I say this because there is what amounts to a whole generation of businessmen who are accustomed to working with foreign systems, and they know how to make them work for themselves. It used to be just assumed that hiring and building were US first and foreign if there was a compelling reason to do so. Now it's the other way around.
 
But, a sizeable fraction of the money will be put to work. The big question is when and how.
 

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2012, 04:16:18 AM »
I see a possible big underground bartering system for goods and services to avoid reporting income and avoid paying taxes, especially by small businesses. 

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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2012, 04:20:13 AM »
I'm at a loss for words:'(

Let me go out on a thick branch & predict, that won't last...
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2012, 05:01:21 AM »
We now need to proceed with the mandate established by Obama, and that is to withdraw our troops from overseas and nation build here in America.  America comes first, second and third.  That was the message of the voters and is a step in the right direction.  If he doesn't do as promised, a Republican can then step in 4 years to do that job.  The people spoke and Obama has a mandate.  Now the leaders need to deliver.  Neocons need to get the boot!   :D
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Re: Good morning. Welcome to the nanny state.
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2012, 05:09:40 AM »
I see a possible big underground bartering system for goods and services to avoid reporting income and avoid paying taxes, especially by small businesses.
YEP.  we  have  some  big   flea markets  ,  I  expect  to  get  even  bigger.

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Re: Good morning. Welcome to the nanny state.
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2012, 05:44:55 AM »
The land of the enslaved and the home of the entitled.
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Re: Good morning. Welcome to the nanny state.
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2012, 06:03:25 AM »
I don't expect any more businesses to leave the country, he'll probably nationalize all corporations like he did general motors.

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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2012, 07:01:56 AM »
GOOD MORNING AMERIKA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2012, 09:27:35 AM »
People really need to check out the Hunger Games trilogy . Especially the last one the best of them
all , Mockingjay.  That is a lot closer to what we are becoming in this country right now.
And the the very bloody war that it took to right things again. Basically a Civil War. 
I promise, you will not be able to put those books down.

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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2012, 09:38:20 AM »
Obama DOES NOT HAVE A MANDATE.  Half the country did not vote for him.  Forcing us to have health care, forcing religious hospitals and schools to do something that is against their religion, taking money from hard workers and giving to able bodied welfare queens and potheads is not right.  We can't get good workers at my place of employment sometimes because 75% of young people can't pass drug tests.  We have college grads digging ditches.  Rebuilding America will require corporate tax cuts for manufacturers, and get OSHA, EPA off our backs. 
 
OSHA shut down one of my jobs because a young inspector put a folding tape measure in the center of a ditch, leaned it over to the side, and it was 5'2".  We took a picture, but not after being shut down a week and costing about $10,000 downtime.  From the center to the top it was about 4'10" which was legal without shoring equipment.  Now, her boss overruled her when he saw the pictures and came out, but it still cost a weeks downtime. 
 
EPA shut us down while boring under a creek (27' deep) because they wanted to wade out there to find some "endangered mussels".  Never did find them, but that costs money in down time. 
 
I have been working for 37 years and the last 4 years have been nothing but bs from young hotshot government inspectors.  We have changed nothing, and still do it the same as always, but sometimes they make us wait.  Older guys understand and know who people are, and let good guys go to work.   

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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2012, 09:50:58 AM »
Dixie Dude,  where you now have "one" worker, you will soon have "ten" workers as your gas line is nationalized.  communists want everyone to have a job.  of course every current worker will have to take a 90% pay-cut.   but hey, we'll all have a job.

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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2012, 10:38:35 AM »
Makes not one bit of difference who is in offfice. They are all corrupt power grabbers. Fire the whole lot and start over if you really want to make a change. Now is the time to draw a line in the sand. It ain't about party it is about the man.
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2012, 10:51:17 AM »
America has proven that nobody will win an election running against santa claus.
We have become a people that expects the government to be the doer and giver of everything. The only thing that will ever change this way of thinking is if enough people go without, Period!
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2012, 11:04:42 AM »
WAIT JUST A MINUTE.
America spoke. Now if you must---think---The ones you are railing against voted and they have said what they wanted.
How many are there on this place---let's say 25000 just for a guess---7000 or so voted--but--18,000 did not vote. Did not say anything. Have no opinion. Don't care.
They are the loosers--the others expressed an opinion. I dare say that there was some good thinking amongst those who voted for Obama---they just didn't happen to agree with you and are probably laughing at you for being so stupid.
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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2012, 11:09:54 AM »
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We now need to proceed with the mandate established by Obama, and that is to withdraw our troops from overseas and nation build here in America.  America comes first, second and third.  That was the message of the voters and is a step in the right direction.  If he doesn't do as promised, a Republican can then step in 4 years to do that job.  The people spoke and Obama has a mandate. 

 
 
 
Let me ask you two questions.  Why did he not do that during the first 4 years?  Are you so naive to believe that he will now do it?
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2012, 11:27:25 AM »
Obama doesn't care about America except to bring it down, take it's wealth and spread it around the world.  Go to the library and read his book, Dreams from my Father.  He is anti colonial, anti capitalist, and anti christian.  This is what Obama Sr. was.  However the African nations, once they got their independence, threw out the baby with the bath water.  Obama thinks America was a colonial power who exploited the third world to become wealthy, like taking slaves.  Well, he forgets we had a war to end that.  He believes the Muslims were also exploited by colonial powers, not accepting the fact that they exploited the world also by forcing people to become Muslim who came under their rule.  He wants us to loose our superpower status in military and economics like the European powers did through socialism.  Read his book, then watch Obama's America 2016, which explains in parallel how he has governed with what he wrote in his book.  He wants American whites to become dependent on the state like the blacks have been. 

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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2012, 12:06:58 PM »
To all those that are just completely convinced that the end is near, the sky is falling, and communism is coming to a home near you...................there is always Canada.  You voted for the lesser of two evils.  That was plan A.  How's about taking some of your own personal agenda fueled advise and move to the lesser of two evils, Canada.  Good ole' plan B.  America is dead, right? Your jobs are fixing to be terminated and/ or handed over to the hispanics, right?  what do ya got to loose?!? Everyon that is crying a river sounds absolutely pathetic right now.  Push yourself away from the keyboard, walk outside and take in some fresh air.
 
Some one said it earlier- we need to remove all reps and dems and start from scratch.  Come up with something new.  neither on of the major parties is working at this point. 
It's all a hot mess...........

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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2012, 12:44:04 PM »
We now need to proceed with the mandate established by Obama, and that is to withdraw our troops from overseas and nation build here in America.  America comes first, second and third.  That was the message of the voters and is a step in the right direction.  If he doesn't do as promised, a Republican can then step in 4 years to do that job.  The people spoke and Obama has a mandate.  Now the leaders need to deliver.  Neocons need to get the boot!   :D
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    Yep, Obama's great idea...cut the military to under half what it is..
   Meanwhile, Russian submarines are already patrolling our Atlantic coast.. 
           http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/russian-sub-skirts-coast/25134/
  But they don't stop there..they are also in the gulf..   http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/russian-sub-skirts-coast/25134/
   They are probably on the left coast also, but the left doesn't want to admit it..
  BTW:  Hairy..you DO know what a submarine is..your big Daddy already explained it..otherwise we would have never known..
  ..I rather do wonder though what his "increased flexibility" for the Russians will be..maybe give Alaska back to them..?
  With him in office though, I doubt that in 3-4 years..there would be much difference whether Alaska was part of Russia or the Obama States !
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2012, 02:40:27 PM »
During his first term, he stated that the constitution was an outdated document, and we all know how he circumvented the constitution with his czars.   we know how he attended a church where his preacher prayed that God would "damn america".  we know that he said he wants to spread the wealth.  we know that he wants gas prices to mirror those in europe.  we know that his family values includes man to man marriages. how sick is that?
I could go on and on, but it would be lost on democrats, they have no conscience.

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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2012, 02:50:58 PM »
I'm at a loss for words:'(

Let me go out on a thick branch & predict, that won't last...


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I see your still up to your baiting game YT! How about trying to add something to this discussion instead of looking for a target to flame. You appear to be doing a lot of it lately.
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2012, 04:54:11 PM »
I'm at a loss for words:'(

Let me go out on a thick branch & predict, that won't last...
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I see your still up to your baiting game YT! How about trying to add something to this discussion instead of looking for a target to flame. You appear to be doing a lot of it lately.
Sorry you disapprove, but I'm sticking to my post. I did add to the discussion. It's not the end of the world, just one of many elections, all will return to normal in a few days - those who said they'll move to Costa Rica won't, others who burned their flags will repent, and those struck mute by their man losing will regain their voices. You could use some sense of humor, NW, to do with you hair-trigger sense of mission.
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« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2012, 05:11:22 PM »
GOOD MORNING AMERIKA!!!!!!!!!!!!

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