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Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2012, 02:19:43 AM »



Time for those who think that way to find a better country and move there - PERMANATELY!!!

Oh, you giving orders now that your beloved commie leader won? Well YOU can leave if you want too smart mouth, I ain't goin' no where.

Don't let the door hit you in the butt......PERMANATLEY ::)
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Re: Re: Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2012, 02:26:05 AM »
Those "counterpoints" are actually making my argument FOR me. You are defending an ideology; I respect that. BUT, pragmatically, holding blindly to that ideology cost conservatives the election. The left WANTS you to stay the same.

The only why they are making your arguments for you is that everyone wants a hand out, instead of working. The healthcare issue is a great example of that.

What cost us the election is running a rhino. Mitt excited people under the prospect of not voting for "the messiah."
The GOP has moved from picking the strongest conservative to picking someone they think can win. Usually a moderate, which a lot of conservatives can't / won't back and won't pull votes from the left.

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Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2012, 02:30:41 AM »
The leaders of the GOP now pick canidates they can control. Winning with out being able to control their man is not winning to them. The voters need to end this stupidity .
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Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2012, 03:43:48 AM »
<sigh>  :-\
If what I'm reading here is true, that a true conservative could never garner the republican nod.......America is dead! Time to put Lady Liberty in a coffin and shovel dirt on her. :'(
 
Welcome to Amerika. ::)
Time for those who think that way to find a better country and move there - PERMANATELY!!!
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  Trouble is, the world's "last and best hope" was destroyed on Tuesday..by greedy, unthinking,,small people.
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Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2012, 03:58:02 AM »
No tuse the American people got a wake up call.
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Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2012, 05:27:25 AM »
<sigh>  :-\
If what I'm reading here is true, that a true conservative could never garner the republican nod.......America is dead! Time to put Lady Liberty in a coffin and shovel dirt on her. :'(
 
Welcome to Amerika. ::)
Time for those who think that way to find a better country and move there - PERMANATELY!!!
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  Trouble is, the world's "last and best hope" was destroyed on Tuesday..by greedy, unthinking,,small people.




I think the best hope for the nation was destroyed by his own party leaders and it's members during the primary's.If this country is to ever get back to what truly made it great, it has to have leaders who will follow faithfully the Constitution.The odds of ever seeing this is slim to none.This election is a good example. Romney and Obama offer Fascism or socialism.They in no way represent the government our founders gave us.


But people still voted for them in overwhelming numbers, while the people who would lead us back in the right direction received a pitiful percentage.........We got what we deserved. (Well! maybe a handful of us didn't) ;)
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Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2012, 05:59:56 AM »
Things the Republicans should address in their own party platform:
1) You can not ignore or discredit scientific fact and keep your credibility. Young people ARE the ones doing the grunt work for scientific research. Just saying it's not so only shows them you are not willing to do anything about the problem, or that you are not smart enough to perceive that there IS a problem.  Meaning what?  There are Republican young people..and no questions are generally asked about politics when Dems or Reps collect their paychecks..
2) Healthcare access IS a problem here. Ignoring that only showed that the Republicans either do not care or again are too dense to realize that there is a problem. Reps did not ignore health care, both sides were working on a plan..until 2008, when obama got dictatorial power, locked the Reps out of the discussion and instituted a nation-killing plan which Dems "passed without reading.
3) Equal rights are what it's all about--- the Republicans would do well to stay away from ANY talk or vote that has anything to do with abortion or any women's issues, voter suppression, etc..Umm.. Reps didn't bring up abortion or birth control''these are both settled issues..a woman can participate legally in both.  The obama supporters simply bwhipped up a few uninformed people.
4) Republicans need to ANSWER THE QUESTIONS they are asked. Does anyone here think the world simply did not notice that when Romney was asked if he paid women the same as he paid men, instead of answering, he meandered around and started the whole "binder" debacle?
5) Normal people believe that if you are making 95% of the money, you should pay 95% of the taxes. Period.  I doubt the percentage you posted, but it has been proven over and over..the rich pay well above what is reasonable.
    A comparison:  If the apartment yhou live in raises the rent too high..you move..The rich international businessmen can do the same..and probably will.  Somehow the libs can't figure that out.
6) Three things, the military, health care, and education, whether you interpret the Constitution that way or not, need to be run, SECULARLY, by the federal government, without question. Those things are simply too big and too important to the well-being of the people in this country to be given over to private industry.  I see "provide for the common defense" in the constitution..you will have to show me the other two.  Until you do, I expect they come under "states rights'.
7) You can not frighten poor people with poverty. That does not work. And you can't tell them on the one hand that the money is worthless and then try and scare them with figures of how much they personally owe on the national debt. If the money is worthless, what difference does it make?  Who is trying to frighten poor people with poverty?  Not the Reps..that's a liberal/socialist game. Libs even get people who are not in poverty to believe tey are.. 
  Nobody said the money is worthless sinc Obama was crowned...it's just worth less.

If the Republicans can not do at least that much, they will die off as the current crop of older white men die off.  Younger people generally do not have preconceived party affiliations--- they're ALL independents. And, young people nowadays are not going to vote for a party that spouts ideology over pragmatism. Likewise, people of color have no affiliations to the GOP--- they're voting the whats-in-it-that-helps-me ticket. That's the real problem..and it id not delineated by color The GOP also needs to admit that GW destroyed the economy. GW damaged the economy.. added $4T in 8 years, Obama added $6T in less than 4 years, DO THE MATH!That one denial caused them at least some of the vote from middle aged and older white guys. Obama can get away with blaming Bush--- Bush was guilty. Trying to call him out on that blame just comes across as childish and whiney. They'd have done better to say that they had messed things up, and then tell what they were changing to fix it--- hint: no more tax breaks for the rich.We do not have a tax problem..but a spending problem..exactly what the dems accus Bush of,,but even moreso!
If the GOP does not move in this direction, they are history. And as the Jackass party goes "forward" the United States ..is becoming history...
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  Unless the people wake up, we are going to crash.  In order to avoid going the wau of the Medes & Persians we must;
 
 1) Understand that each able-bodied person should earn his own keep and the keep of those dependant upon him/her.
 
 2) Give up the age, class, race and gender dissension you trumpeted and applauded above.
 
3) get our priorities together.first, the common defense.  This morning's news.. China will have a nuclear sub fleet in two years, this morning China announced a new "stealth" fighter.  Russian subs are patrolling all our coastlines.. obama want sto cut our defenses to pre WW1 levels..  Pres Reagan said;  "No nation was ever attacked because they were too strong"..
4) Face "global warming" as a yet unproven theory, continue to study ..but don't destroy our economy and way of life for it...especially when the world's worst polluters are laughing at us.  How much pressure have Al gore and Obama put on Russia, China & India to cut their polluting? 
 5) Stop generating dissension between tyhe races, genders, ages, etc..that is almost always a practice of the left.
 
6)  Business should start to be more forthright in offering profit sharing and other employee participation plans.  It would make a more diligent and self-policing labor force.  These practices could eliminate the need for certain continually troublesome unions.
 
  7) Somehow, Americans must get back a shared set of values...we did have a shared set of values until about the 1960s..but then academia and the easily led students discarded the judeo=christian value system. they then took uo an "if it feeld good, do it" philosophy..which is absent of any moral compass.
 
   There are & points, not hard to achieve..but we have to believe in America to implement them.  Sadly though, I believe too many now have no idea of what altruism means and are "only in it for what they can get out of it"..
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Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2012, 08:02:44 AM »
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As nw-hunter said the GOPers lost the election when they stole the nomination from Ron Paul. Told ya so!  And put a banker up for the election.....nobody trust those guys except so-called conservatives.

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Re: Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2012, 08:08:08 AM »
Global Warming is still a theory NOT a fact. Proof against global warming has come from both sides.
Those "counterpoints" are actually making my argument FOR me. You are defending an ideology; I respect that. BUT, pragmatically, holding blindly to that ideology cost conservatives the election. The left WANTS you to stay the same.
Your points had absolutely zero to do with the election.

The fact millions of those who vote Democrat vote for the Santa Claus party and the free welfare it hands out with other peoples money is the reason that the Democrats won.
That is one of the reason they cater to the Latino vote, especially the imports as in their home country that is the only form of government they ever had and full well do not intend to give it up.

The other part of the equation is the millions of conservatives who did not vote for reasons that resemble a pouting child.

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Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2012, 06:16:37 PM »
<sigh>  :-\
If what I'm reading here is true, that a true conservative could never garner the republican nod.......America is dead! Time to put Lady Liberty in a coffin and shovel dirt on her. :'(
 
Welcome to Amerika. ::)
Time for those who think that way to find a better country and move there - PERMANANTELY!!!
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Yeah, maybe the countries where all their Corporate Republican "Hero's" keep their off shore bank accounts, or the countries to where they outsourced for cheap labor. Go there. Maybe Mitt will give you a job at twice the local wage...what, $6.00 a day instead of $3.00.

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Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2012, 12:59:21 AM »
And the first order of bidness is to lock and load.

Uh-huh...yeah. Right.
Magooch -The statement is as stupid as the spelling. lol. Your thinking is the image of the Republican  Party. That in itself is what's harming the Republican Party.
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But DD says Republicans are too nice.... ;) The department of Defense didn't say that..a political puppet appointed by Obama said that!
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As nw-hunter said the GOPers lost the election when they stole the nomination from Ron Paul. Told ya so!  And put a banker up for the election.....nobody trust those guys except so-called conservatives. News flash for you.. Do you really think RP could have been elected?  Unlike some RP supporters who pouted through election day, I would have voted for RP, had he gotten the nod..but think for a moment...  Ron Paul was not for open borders, not in favor of freebie giveaways, not in favor of baby-killing nor in aliens being allowed to vote here.  He wasn't anti.gun nor pro-OWS   
      Paul would have fared no better with the "gimme" crowd than did Romney.  Oh; he may have picked up a few dopers from the left...and lost a number of defense minded and Israel-favoring on the right..so I doubt he would have done as well as Romney.
 
  Time to face facts...  Too much of the population is deeply propagandized and brainwashed.  They are convinced that U.S. means "uncle Santa"and that they have no obligation to anyone but themselves.  They live in a fantasy world where they seem to think that all responsible citizenship requires, is for them to live on "Big Rock Candy Mountain...   
      See "The Big Rock Candy Mountain"    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqowmHgxVJQ
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Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2012, 10:04:46 AM »
Here's some coaching for the next Republican presidential hopeful. These might get him elected. Free beer and wine for everbody. Free smokes, tobacco and pot. Free condoms, and if you forget to use it, free abortion. Free phones. Free housing. Food stamps for everybody. There. That ought to get the next candidate in 2016 elected. gypsyman
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Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2012, 12:50:47 PM »
Right on Gypsyman;
      Coaches who would sell out to evil are not hard to find..but there are some folks left who have some scruples...and the parasite population will never vote conservative..
  Simple math..there are now more "takers" than "makers"..more useless than useful...
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Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2012, 01:02:25 PM »
"The president was elected on the basis that he was not Romney and that Romney was a poopy-head."—Grover Norquist

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Re: Republicans need new coaches
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2012, 04:38:28 PM »
Here's some coaching for the next Republican presidential hopeful. These might get him elected. Free beer and wine for everbody. Free smokes, tobacco and pot. Free condoms, and if you forget to use it, free abortion. Free phones. Free housing. Food stamps for everybody. There. That ought to get the next candidate in 2016 elected. gypsyman
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That could very well work next time around, considering how the position of self righteous imposition of government legislated morality has(or hasn't) been working for them lately.