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Poor loser? nope!!
« on: November 07, 2012, 06:32:40 AM »
I've had two American flags in front of my house for over 30 years.
Today when I left for work I pulled them both down and threw them on the ground.
And that's where they laid till I got back home.
I didn't put them back up.
 
I was always proud of America and proud to be an American.
But America has nothing to be proud about now, and I am not proud to be an American any more.
Some people might think I'm just a poor loser.
It has nothing to do with me being a poor loser.
When obama won in 2008, I thought the country just had way to many idiots.
BUT! I was still proud to be an American.
After having obama in for 4 years and seeing what he is.
I was sure Americans would not be so insane to elect him again.
But what did the majority of America do?
They voted for obama ,again.
It has changed my views on America and Americans.
I no longer think most voters are idiots for voting for obama.
I think most Americans are just evil!
They know who and what obama is.
And yet they still vote for him!!!
So I don't consider myself a poor loser.
I just know when I'm whipped.
This isn't the same country I grew up being proud of.
And the people are not the same Americans I was proud to be one of.
I think I know now how the people of the south felt after the Civil War.
I might live here, but it it ain't my country ...anymore.
Someone said "You get the government you deserve"
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 06:48:24 AM »
I am not happy with the way it turned out either. But I would not disrespect the symbol of our country. To many have served and died for this country and that flag. I am still a pround american and you sir I dont belive are.

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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 06:50:17 AM »
. I am still a pround american and you sir I dont belive are.

You are 100% right.

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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2012, 07:06:49 AM »
This is sad , if those who were here before us had walked away the first time a crisis or difficulty came up we would never have been a great country. The communist have always predicted we would be destoryed from with in. The muslims are moving in maybe with the idea of turning our freedoms aginst us maybe not. For even one true American to throw in the towel is one to many. Maybe some think we are out numbered and maybe we are , whats new ? we have been out numbered before . Maybe we need to be better than the greatest generation ! We won't pass our test if we run and hide.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2012, 07:09:37 AM »
. I am still a pround american and you sir I dont belive are.

You are 100% right.
Doing that to the American Flag is a disgrace. Disrespects all who gave their lives for it. No better than others who burn it.  I'll give you and those like you some friendly advice. Better get your tickets for leaving the country before the Holiday Season. They will be cheaper. Oh Ya- make sure you make it only one way.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2012, 07:09:55 AM »
This is sad , if those who were here before us had walked away the first time a crisis or difficulty came up we would never have been a great country.

That would be true if this were the FIRST TIME, unfortunately that is not even close to being the case. ::)
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2012, 07:37:00 AM »
no its not the first time freedom was attacked , how many wars have we been involved in ? how many times were federal troops use aginst American citizens ? In N.O. peoples right to arms was denied and it went to court . In some place in America most days freedom is challenged . Do we fold or suck it up ?
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2012, 07:44:36 AM »
no its not the first time freedom was attacked , how many wars have we been involved in ? how many times were federal troops use aginst American citizens ? In N.O. peoples right to arms was denied and it went to court . In some place in America most days freedom is challenged . Do we fold or suck it up ?
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2012, 07:46:56 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2012, 08:23:36 AM »
Maybe I didn't make myself as clear as I would have liked to.
I have fought under that flag.
I have friends that have given their lives while fighting under that flag.
I have the highest respect to everyone that has served under that same flag.
And those who say America has seen tough times before and has stood up to every challenge fail to see that THE PEOPLE are what made America great.
And now it is the American people that vote obama back in.
It's abortion ,gay rights, welfare state, affirmative action, qutoas, Gov. health care and everything that comes with it.bending over backwards for illegal invaders, makeing it a crime to run a sucessful buisness.And mostly just turning from GOD in any way they can is what the majority of Americans have proven they want.
None of these things would be like it is today IF THE MAJORITY of Americans didn't want them.
This is America now.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2012, 08:34:22 AM »
do you realize that less than half of the people in what was to become America supported the revolution to free us ? even less would fight to free us. Yes they want these things but in the end they will not have them because they can't be afforded . Then they will want those who saw what was going to happen to come save them once more. every dog has his day .
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2012, 08:56:39 AM »
Oh hell yea , lets just shoot ourselves in the foot and get it over with . Just like the other great republic did. Meanwhile lets throw old glory into the dirt and adopt this flag.


That way there will be no mistaking about who we are becoming . But on the bright side we would then have some real cool looking uniforms. And a big nice arena to go watch first hand about what we are becoming, as we end up the same way they did.

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2012, 10:06:47 AM »
Myself, along with a great many others voted our way.
Others voted the other way and we lost.
Be that as it may, I am still a PROUD AMERICAN that will fly the AMERICAN flag and stand up for this countries rights.
I have been without a true leader for 4 years and will be without one for another 4 unless something happens to change that.
I hate that THE LIAR won another 4 years to mess this country up some more but that is the way it turned out.
I will still be here long after THE LIAR is gone and will do my best to help bring this country back to what it once was.
Hell man, we all lose sometime in our lives and this is just one of those times.
Doesn't mean we are beatten.
I am not sure if my small family run business will be much when it is all over but then again, it hasn't been much for the past 4 years.
I am still here, my business is still here and we will both survive in some form.
I put it back a long time ago just in case this day ever came along.
Granted, there will be a lot less of it left if things don't change for the better over the next 4 years but I think it will last.
You may feel differently then I do about the out come of the election and that is your right just as the law says you can show disrespect to my/our flag but pardon me if I don't show any sympathy towards you over your actions concerning that flag.
I happen to think that those that voted to re-elect THE LIAR were wrong just as I feel you are wrong to throw that flag that you fought for on the ground.
I mean no disrespect towards you as a person for I think you reacted out of anger and maybe not your true feelings.
If this is the case then please go out and pick that flag up and either fly her the way it should be flown or put her up for a while until you are sure of your actions.
 
 
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2012, 10:15:55 AM »
I bleed red white and blue. If you don't love this country LEAVE. Obama or not we still live in the gratest nation in the world. Never stop trying to make a difference. Lots have died for our way of life. Like it or not we still live better than everyone else.
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2012, 10:17:25 AM »
I've had two American flags in front of my house for over 30 years.
Today when I left for work I pulled them both down and threw them on the ground.
And that's where they laid till I got back home.
I didn't put them back up.

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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2012, 11:18:28 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2012, 11:28:37 AM »
I don't agree with his actions but I think I understand m-g Willy's thoughts/feelings.   The majority of this country voted for a Socialist, anti Judio/Christian leader.   The beliefs of the majority of this nation has shifted from those of the American people our ancestors fought and died for. 

I too was once very proud of our country and the values that it once stood for.   But it seems now that those values have been lost, maybe forever.   It is difficult to be proud of what we have become,   :'(
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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2012, 11:37:17 AM »
I too am not proud of our country anymore.  I won't disrespect the flag, because of what it once stood for.  We have too many people in this country who 1) were not born here, 2) like the freebies, 3) think they are smarter than the true Americans.  The Japanese copied us after they lost WWII, they sent their people over to find out what the WASP's stood for, (white, anglo-saxon protestant's).  The saw it was hard work and a never give up mentality, inovation, invention, and pragmatic Americans.  Now we have a whole generation who don't know how to get wealth by hard work, but think they should inherit it, or be given to them, like free college education, free homes, help paying bills, public transportation. 

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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2012, 11:50:56 AM »
 I wish the nation had woken up to about 50 million upside down American flags flying. And leave em that way for the duration of the nightmare. J
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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2012, 12:16:47 PM »
I will not disrespect the flag. What happened will make me respect it even more. My father didn't serve 3 1/2 years in the South Pacific, and have me do even a fraction of what was asked of him. Weather I fight by writing letters,voicing my opinion, or bearing a firearm, I'm going to stick this one out to the end. I know the next 4 years, Obama and his supporters, better be ready to eat crow. He can't blame inheriting a bad economy, wars, on his predicessor. Of course, that's exactly what he'll do, he's a spoiled little brat, and needs his nose rubbed in the pile on the carpet. He made it. gypsyman
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2012, 12:36:56 PM »
Breathe people, breathe. This too shall pass. Things today are more like they are now than they have ever been before.......  ::) ;)
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2012, 01:20:03 PM »
I see some still don't understand what I'm saying.
It's not obama.
obama is a P.O.S.,,, and everyone knows what he is.
But that's what they want.
It's the majority of Americans that WANT obama.
The America that I was proud of (THE AMERICAN PEOPLE)  is no longer here.
The way America is now,,,,, is what the majority of Americans want.
We can all swear how proud of America we are..
But think about it.
How proud are you about our embassy being attacked and we did nothing?
How proud are you that we can legally murder the unborn child in America?
How proud are you that we have homos getting married legally?
How proud are you about how we fight a war now?
How proud are you about how we are more worried about terrorists rights than our own citizens?
How proud are you about letting someone step in front of a more qualified person for a job because of the color of their skin?
How proud are you of the president of this once great country?
Not a whole lot to brag about is there?
 
 
 
 

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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2012, 01:22:04 PM »
Obamas ego will end up getting the best of him.

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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2012, 02:32:57 PM »
OK folks! I just deleted one post for attacking him for what they consider a terrible crime against the republic.
What he did was symbolic to him! We all have different ways of dealing with things. Knock it off with these personal attacks.



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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2012, 02:43:43 PM »
m-g Willy, I would not have done what you did. But as a very smart man said"I will die for your right to do it" free speech  can take many forms. Yours may not sit well with some, but it is yours.
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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2012, 02:54:31 PM »
OK folks! I just deleted one post for attacking him for what they consider a terrible crime against the republic.
What he did was symbolic to him! We all have different ways of dealing with things. Knock it off with these personal attacks.
Ok- But than let's remember that, when others disgrace our flag as a symbolic gesture.. There are many ways to disgrace our flag    from burning it, spitting on it, letting it lay on the dirt. Americans hated it when Viet Nam protesters burned our flag.When I was young, I was taught that the flag should never touch the ground. Now I see it's ok to let it lay in dirt as a symbolic gesture. ::)  Some got all upset when Obama didn't cover his heart during the playing of the National Anthem. How unamerican - but throwing 2 American Flags on the ground and letting them their is Ok. I just don't understand.
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2012, 03:43:47 PM »
M-G WILLY. I'm more upset over this travesty than anything I can remember in a long time. The real problem is that that majority of American do NOT have God in their lives. WE can thank LIBERALS for that. Our nation will not heal til we as a nation get back in line with God.
 
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Even after it is over it's hard to believe that over 1/2 of voting Americans support sin and evil. Again, thank a liberal for that. Cheer up my friend, we can weather the storm. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2012, 01:53:16 AM »
I see some still don't understand what I'm saying.
It's not obama.
obama is a P.O.S.,,, and everyone knows what he is.
But that's what they want.yes it is what they think they want we understand , we also understand when it all falls in there will be a need for christians to show those who have fallen how to be saved and right their lives.
It's the majority of Americans that WANT obama.about half of those who voted really.
The America that I was proud of (THE AMERICAN PEOPLE)  is no longer here.i believe it is here still just shoved to the side a bit. it will only be gone if those who believe in it let it go.
The way America is now,,,,, is what the majority of Americans want.
We can all swear how proud of America we are..
But think about it.
How proud are you about our embassy being attacked and we did nothing?no our leaders did nothing , there were troops , choppers and planes ready to go
How proud are you that we can legally murder the unborn child in America?I am more concerned about this than who gets elected. Thing is I don't have to do it or be in support of it . The way I view it and deal with it may convince others its wrong which long term may influnce voters to change the law.
How proud are you that we have homos getting married legally?Again we don't have to comply , we don't have to support it . The Bible tells us it is wrong . The Bible also tells us not to judge. The Bible also instructs us to protect our wives and children from things that are not holy. It will be difficult but we can do these things God will help us .
How proud are you about how we fight a war now?well we fight well what we seem to not do as well is the political end which we haven't done in a long time .
How proud are you about how we are more worried about terrorists rights than our own citizens?
How proud are you about letting someone step in front of a more qualified person for a job because of the color of their skin?
How proud are you of the president of this once great country?
Not a whole lot to brag about is there? From the other questions I assume you are asking if I agree with policy of govt. No some I disagree with , some have exceeded their usefulness if they ever were useful in the first place. If nothing else we still live in a great country because we can sit and voice our opinion. We can also work to change what goes on. It might take years so I choose to work to make America great. I don't expect America to be as it was in 1950 or 1970 or even when Regan was president . The world has changed and America needs to change to keep up. It seems our morality has been out stepped by progress and we need to help it catch up . Wringing hands and throwing in the towel won't get it done.
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« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2012, 02:48:20 AM »
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Childish, hysterical panicky temper tantrum

The man is hurting and THIS is what you offer?  Sorriest example of the golden rule I've ever heard.
He's one of the reasons Obama won.
 
I see what Willy is saying. But what he needs, and many others on the losing side need, is a little self-examination.
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It's not obama. obama is a P.O.S.
That kind of nasty, uncharitable expression – that feels so satisfying, and fits in well here? – that isn’t what I’m talking about.
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It's the majority of Americans that WANT obama.
Maybe. Two days after the election, here’s what I think: Obama seemed more credible than Romney, to more people. And, he seemed a lot more attractive than his detractors. And those folks – we’ve got them here! – what did they display in response to Obama? Here is what that winning majority saw:
Angry at gays, angry at abortion, willing to bend others to their religious preferences, and utterly contemptuous of folks that aren’t like them. A nasty streak of racism. A hostility towards Latin American immigrants that was particularly nasty, and alienated a lot of folks who might have voted for a conservative candidate. Thanks a lot, fellas...

Consider whether you'd rather be angry and pout about the way it ought to be, or whether you'd like to win, and what will be required to do this. And... perhaps reconsider some positions and attitudes.
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« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2012, 02:53:15 AM »

Consider whether you'd like to be angry and pout about the way it ought to be, or whether you'd like to win, and what will be required. And... perhaps reconsider some positions and attitudes.

Like supporting a true conservative,instead of a neocon in drag, and demanding that your party do the same.
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