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Cali homeowner arrested after shooting 2 intruders.
« on: November 07, 2012, 02:19:02 PM »
California homeowner arrested after shooting alleged intruders  Published November 07, 2012
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  •    This image, obtained by FoxNews.com affiliate FOX40, shows Jerry Rasmussen who was arrested after shooting two alleged intruders in his California home on Wednesday, Nov. 7, 2012. (Sacramento County Sheriff's Department)
  Authorities arrested a California homeowner after he shot two people who allegedly broke into his home Wednesday morning.
Jerry Rasmussen, 60, woke up sometime after 2 a.m. to find two intruders in his Fair Oaks home, according to FOX40. One of the intruders died, and the second suspect fled to a nearby hospital.
 
Sacramento County Sheriff's spokesman Jason Ramos said deputies arrived at the home around 2:30 a.m. and found the first suspect dead from a gunshot wound. Police later learned the second suspected intruder had gone to a local hospital seeking treatment for his wound, according to a report by News10.
Deputies said they arrested Rasmussen because he is an ex-felon in possession of a firearm, FOX40 reports. He taken to Sacramento County Jail.
Police are further investigating the incident, but believe burglary was the motive.
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Re: Cali homeowner arrested after shooting 2 intruders.
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 03:07:25 PM »
Ya, that's a tough one.  Gotta hand it to the guy for defending his home, but he really didnt think that through with his felony and all.  That sucks.
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Re: Cali homeowner arrested after shooting 2 intruders.
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 04:28:08 PM »
If he wasnt supposed to have a gun, he shouldnt have had one. Serves him right. I get tired of sympathy for people like this who have to repay their debt to society.

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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2012, 11:04:05 PM »
HUMMMM ! This is illogical. You do your time and you can't defend yourownself ? HUMMM! Something is wrong with this picture.
It is illogical to think that a ex-felon or a felon can't get a gun---well that is more than illogical. It is also illlogical that a person must just roll over, play possum to anyone so that they can do to you what they wish--I don't care if it was jack the ripper.
If you carry this to the end results, how are going to keep guns from ex-felons and maintain a free state? Laws ? Heck fire boys---take some oxygen and think.
This is just more rhetoric from folks who want but have no plan--and--don't think thru the plan.
Who is really the BG in this picture ?
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 12:41:45 AM »
The guy obviously believed that "It is better to be tried by twelve than carried by six". His choice, hope he doesn't get clobbered too hard for it.
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2012, 05:55:25 AM »
No mention of what the felony was for or how old it was. A 60 yr old against 2 30 ish intruders at 2 AM?? I'd of shot them too.
A man who has served his time doesn't have the right to arm himself against an attacker?? Some felonies are the pits. Everybody is young and stupid once. Don't know his circumstances but doing some things early in life should not prevent you from defending yourself for the rest of your life. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2012, 06:12:39 AM »
Depending on the Felony, you can have your right restored. 

I know a fellow here in Fairbanks that was convicted of jury tampering, when he told the jury they had certain rights and that the judge was wrong in his instructions to the jury.  He was right in his speech, but he got a felony conviction out of the way he did it in the court room.  After he served his time, he requested his rights be restored and they were.

A violent felony conviction usually is denied the request, but each case has to stand on it's own merits.

Here in Alaska the state turns a blind eye on felons who own shotguns or rifles, since these are needed to feed their families.  As long as they don't do something stupid there is no problem.  But, take for instance the guy who shot a hole in then Alaska Pipeline.  He was a felon, and when he was arrested he was charged with "Felon in possession of a firearm".  Along with many other charges.
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2012, 06:36:31 AM »
Was he the only one in the home ? Don't know ca law but in some places it is ok if others in the home own guns just not the felon . in a few the felon can use the weapon to defend his life .
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2012, 08:28:47 PM »
Was he the only one in the home ? Don't know ca law but in some places it is ok if others in the home own guns just not the felon . in a few the felon can use the weapon to defend his life .
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There are legal ways of getting around it but it's a pain. You have to be able to establish that the felon, or ex-felon does not have access to the firearm in question. Bunch of legal guidelines involved.


I'm assuming that other than the fact that he was a felon, because he is not being charged with anything else, that it was a righteous shoot?

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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2012, 02:24:07 AM »
A guy I worked with is a felon in Va. he was allowed to own a shotgun to hunt with but could only have fine shot .
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2012, 02:58:00 AM »
I detest the idea of a man losing his rights as a man, due to felony conviction. Waaaay too easy to be a 'felon' in America. Lots of 'felons' are much better people that lots of cops & lawyers. If you can't have a firearm, you're not a free man.
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2012, 04:36:49 AM »
I detest the idea of a man losing his rights as a man, due to felony conviction. Waaaay too easy to be a 'felon' in America. Lots of 'felons' are much better people that lots of cops & lawyers. If you can't have a firearm, you're not a free man.

What the law is saying is you never pay for your crime . If you look deeper I suspect that many in comntrol feel anyone who breaks the law has a mental problem. They don't fall in line sorta speak. It seems ones mental condition may be the basis for gun ownership in the future . I would ask if ones mental state is such they can't be trusted with a gun is a vehicle or knife any safer in reality ?
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2012, 04:45:17 AM »
I detest the idea of a man losing his rights as a man, due to felony conviction. Waaaay too easy to be a 'felon' in America. Lots of 'felons' are much better people that lots of cops & lawyers. If you can't have a firearm, you're not a free man.

What if that man is a convicted child molestor, or kidnapper?  They knew the consequences before they did the crime.  They forfitted a right .

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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2012, 04:51:54 AM »
I detest the idea of a man losing his rights as a man, due to felony conviction. Waaaay too easy to be a 'felon' in America. Lots of 'felons' are much better people that lots of cops & lawyers. If you can't have a firearm, you're not a free man.

What if that man is a convicted child molestor, or kidnapper?  They knew the consequences before they did the crime.  They forfitted a right .
Both should be in prision for life.
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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2012, 07:24:25 AM »
I detest the idea of a man losing his rights as a man, due to felony conviction. Waaaay too easy to be a 'felon' in America. Lots of 'felons' are much better people that lots of cops & lawyers. If you can't have a firearm, you're not a free man.

What if that man is a convicted child molestor, or kidnapper?  They knew the consequences before they did the crime.  They forfitted a right .
Both should be in prison for life.

 
They should be at the end of a rope. ;)  Why should my tax dollars pay for them for the rest of their miserable lives?
 
 
 
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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2012, 07:54:10 AM »
I detest the idea of a man losing his rights as a man, due to felony conviction. Waaaay too easy to be a 'felon' in America. Lots of 'felons' are much better people that lots of cops & lawyers. If you can't have a firearm, you're not a free man.

What if that man is a convicted child molestor, or kidnapper?  They knew the consequences before they did the crime.  They forfitted a right .
Both should be in prision for life.

One should be dead,  but how many sex offenders do we have loose?

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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2012, 11:53:17 AM »
I am in agreement that not every cime and conviction deserves to be awared with the loss of right to bear arms.  However, It is a deterrent for some that are thinking about committing a felony.  If you committ a felony with a firearsm, that goes without saying that you loose your rights. Same with committing a violent crime- with our without a gun.
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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2012, 12:22:34 PM »
The man knew what he did was a felony !
I uspect he was not given much choice.
Whatever the crime was--it WAS--and a man should be allowed to protect his place, his family and himself.
A sidebar: see how easy it is to obtain a gun if you are a felon. Were is the law ?
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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2012, 12:37:28 PM »
The man knew what he did was a felony !
I uspect he was not given much choice.
Whatever the crime was--it WAS--and a man should be allowed to protect his place, his family and himself.
A sidebar: see how easy it is to obtain a gun if you are a felon. Were is the law ?
I would own a gun and hang the law.
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So you don't mind for him to own  a legal firearm even if he used a firearm in the commission of a crime(endangering innocent folk........poor baby).  Then it would be OK if he used that firearm against your family.....after all he probably wouldn't have much choice but to do so now......especially that he is now a convicted Felon.......we all have choices.  I couldn't work for 5 years after my stroke.....I didn't take disability or unemployment........it's tough, but you can survive.......He forfeited his ability to use a firearm to protect ct his family.......you are just rationalizing for him.

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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2012, 01:34:23 PM »
He forfeited his ability to use a firearm to protect ct his family.......you are just rationalizing for him.
Sometimes, it's best to simply do what you think right, and screw what the gov't says. They're not right, just because it's in law. Not a bit.

Put me down as being in contempt of rules that ought to be regarded with contempt.
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2012, 01:37:50 PM »
He forfeited his ability to use a firearm to protect ct his family.......you are just rationalizing for him.
Sometimes, it's best to simply do what you think right, and screw what the gov't says. They're not right, just because it's in law. Not a bit.

Put me down as being in contempt of rules that ought to be regarded with contempt.
Then don't whine if he threatens your family.

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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2012, 01:46:19 PM »

Put me down as being in contempt of rules that ought to be regarded with contempt.
Then don't whine if he threatens your family.
(shrug)what does the then refer to?
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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2012, 01:50:23 PM »
Sorry miss manners,  I'm good with numbers and crappy with grammatical context.  I bet you would be the first to shoot though if warranted.

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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2012, 03:33:30 PM »
Sorry miss manners,  I'm good with numbers and crappy with grammatical context.
just trying to suss out what you meant to say, nothing to do with manners
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  I bet you would be the first to shoot though if warranted.
Depends at who or what. I once in one armed confrontation, didn't shoot but it was not a fun experience and would rather not repeat it. If I have a reason, it'll be a solid one.
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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2012, 04:07:35 PM »
Sorry miss manners,  I'm good with numbers and crappy with grammatical context.
just trying to suss out what you meant to say, nothing to do with manners
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  I bet you would be the first to shoot though if warranted.
Depends at who or what. I once in one armed confrontation, didn't shoot but it was not a fun experience and would rather not repeat it. If I have a reason, it'll be a solid one.

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