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7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« on: November 08, 2012, 06:38:17 AM »
Here is one of my future challenges. The swivel carriage is the challenge. I'm sure it can be be done. I attached what I have on the barrel. It is a project most lathes should be able to handle.
A work still in progress.

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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2012, 06:49:09 AM »
looks like a nice project, do you have drawings of the mount? I'll be watching your progress as you post on this....
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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2012, 07:01:15 AM »
Thanks KABAR! I have my AOP plans but it will take some time to scale them. I am cross eyed from drawing now so I am going to save the swivel carriage for a rainy day. It should be able to handle a 3/4 steel ball that you can buy in bulk from McMaster Carr or some other supplier.
I'm not sure what color the swivel carriage is but i think it might be black.
Also I don't have a page with dimensions of the round part of the swivel carriage as seen in the cover page.
Modified the Cover page- It is VII.  :-[
 
 

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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 12:38:27 PM »
   
Thanks KABAR! I have my AOP plans but it will take some time to scale them. I am cross eyed from drawing now so I am going to save the swivel carriage for a rainy day. It should be able to handle a 3/4 steel ball that you can buy in bulk from McMaster Carr or some other supplier.
 I'm not sure what color the swivel carriage is but i think it might be black.
 [/color]Also I don't have a page with dimensions of the round part of the swivel carriage as seen in the cover page.[/b]
 [/color]Modified the Cover page- It is VII. [/color]http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif height=15[/color]     

 
      That's quite an ambitious project you have selected.  If you are careful and figure out all the drawing elements first, and then write down a plan for making the parts, you will not only get it done, but it will look great too.
 
      As to the questions implied in blue print above, the first is pretty simple.  You're correct, black is the color.  In Columbus, Georgia there is a modern replica of this very carriage at the National Civil War Naval Museum called Port Columbus and it sports an original 7" double banded tube.  They even fire it with 5 Lbs. of powder several times during the summer months.  Their carriage is entirely painted black.  I visited the previous museum at this location quite a few times when I was stationed at Fort Benning, Georgia in 1970.  It was called the Confederate Civil War Naval Museum at that time.  I remember that they had it painted black too.
 
      The reason that you  "don't have a page with dimensions of the round part of the swivel carriage as seen in the cover page"is that the "round part" is not part of the naval carriage at all.  This style mounting is a CSA land battery platform and was normally designed by engineers assigned to the local seacoast artillery unit to which the gun was assigned.  In our extensive studies of these platforms, we found that no two were constructed the same, although they were similar.  We have been unable to find a single drawing of these platforms. 
 
      With that photo and AOP #37, you should be able to get dimensions by interpolation and ratio so that you can build a very nice single gun battery with an accurate carriage AND platform. 
 
 Our very best wishes to you.  You have chosen a challenging, but very cool project.  If we can be of any assistance, just PM us as we would be glad to help out on a complex project such as this.
 
 Tracy and Mike
 
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With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 02:48:14 PM »
Thanks Tracy and Mike for the clarification on the color and usefull info on the carriage. Columbus is about an 1 1/2 hour drive so that is a great idea plus we have some good friends there. I have been to Columbus several times and didn't realize they had a civil war museum. I will be back home in a few days from Puerto Rico and will get to Columbus in the near future.

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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2012, 01:25:03 PM »
Made some progress, still a long way to go.




 

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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2013, 03:43:09 PM »
Going at the pace of a government worker on this Brooke Project. Got the barrel done and attached page 6 of the plans.
 

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/87356288@N06/sets/72157633365224488/
 

 

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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2013, 07:42:41 PM »
Nice barrel pics. Thank you for sharing.
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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2013, 05:52:07 AM »
Great work, and a great project  ;)
THANKS BIGTIME for sharing both your project and plans.
I will after I'm done with my Napoleon model look into building a Brooke so I will follow your work as the project moves along...

How are the trunnions attached? 

Ps: you can never post to enough pictures, so keep'em coming  :)

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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2013, 08:20:12 AM »
This is a fine build thread, skidmark; thanks for your efforts.
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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2013, 09:00:02 AM »
     It's a beautiful looking tube; if you used steel, what type?  Can't wait to see the carriage.

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I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2013, 10:27:18 AM »
That's a sharp looking cannon! How did you add the sight masses?

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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2013, 06:07:34 PM »
Thanks for all the nice comments! Just got home from taking my daughter to Gulf Shores. Stopped at Escambia County Courthouse on way back checked out 2 Rodman guns, Identical except for the elevating sockets. http://www.flickr.com/photos/87356288@N06/8873837617/ Yep another topic
 
I'll start with question 1 tonight. How are the trunnions attached?
Option 1:use 1" 2-flute endmill and offset boring head to make a recess .100 deep.
Option 2: use 1" 2-flute endmill and 1.250 counterbore (little bigger but works)to make a recess .100 deep.
Then clamped both trunions on and tig welded around circumference.
After cleaning apply a good 2 part filler your choice and sand smooth, and sand, and sand then prime then sand and sand
 
 
 

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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2013, 04:43:15 AM »
If you used steel, what type? 1018 3.75 Diameter Steel
 
How did you add the sight masses?  I used tig torch and .024 mig wire as filler rod (Don't drink coffe before this procedure)
Then used pencil grinder with 1/16 ball to smooth out and a needle file.

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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2013, 05:22:07 PM »

 
This gun will also fit nicely on this carriage with a couple of modifications to the lower wheel configuration.

See this page for good pics of a CSS naval carriage http://www.flickr.com/photos/87356288@N06/sets/72157631988032673/

This is S-5, the Stern Gun of the CSS Tennessee. This big guy and some of his friends went on an exciting cruise to the gulf on a ironclad that was foiled by its own weakest link.
 



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Re: 7 Inch Brooke 1/9 scale
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2013, 04:28:48 PM »
Very nice! Faithful, very good!
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