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Offline glockky

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Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« on: November 10, 2012, 12:20:54 PM »
Where are you getting your cast bullets to hunt with? I have not yet gotten into casting and am looking for some reasonably prices wide meplat bullets around 250-300gr

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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2012, 05:18:09 PM »
Montana bullet works is a good one. They have a website but you order by phone. Beartooth bullets is also good but sometimes are months behind.

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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2012, 12:33:54 PM »
thanks countryrebel.  Well since I am not getting very many hits on this then what mold do u like that is reasonable priced? I guess I may have to start casting.

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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2012, 12:58:42 PM »
http://leeprecision.com/bullet-casting/hand-gun-bullet-molds/bullet-mold-6-cavity/
  I use the tumble lube design that drops about 220 grains from MY alloy. I have an NEI 2 cavity that drops a 245 grain SWC with gas check, that I use for hunting. Recoil gets punishing as bullet weight rises, so I stick with these weights. Those Lee 6 holers really produce a pile of bullets in a hurry!

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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2012, 02:25:23 AM »
Getting mine from Rim Rock Cast Bullets.

http://www.rimrockbullets.net/catalog/
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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2012, 10:59:35 AM »
I don't cast, and I get mine from Montana bullet works also.  Turn around has always been fairly quick, and quality seems good to me. 
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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2012, 08:27:39 PM »
I use Lazer Cast hardcast without gas checks for reduced practice loads, and Cast Performance with gas checks for hunting.
I have somewhere around 400 250 gr. Lazer Cast, and at least 100 .44 mag cases I need to sell. .44 has been replaced with a .454 Casull.
PM me and make an offer if you're interested.

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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2012, 12:18:17 PM »
sent you a pm cobrad

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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2012, 01:06:10 AM »
Montana Bullet works has great bullets, been using them for many years now. From deer to hogs and black bear. Price is great as well.
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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2012, 03:58:25 AM »
I've had success with some of the more modest priced commercial casting companies.  Missouri Bullet, Mastercast and Dardas Cast Bullets to name a few. 


Best thing is you can shoot your deer / bear load all year long and be very familiar with it when big game season rolls around.

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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2012, 07:53:29 AM »
For near max loads, I prefer Beatooth Bullets or Cast Performance with wide meplats and gas checks sized to .432.
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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2012, 06:28:12 AM »
I have killed deer with the plain old Oregon Trail 240 Lasercast SWC bullets available almost everywhere. I never had a bad experience with them.


I have heard very good things about the Bear Creek but have not personally used them yet




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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2012, 05:28:12 PM »
What's your optimum velocity with a 240gr cast bullet

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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2013, 06:52:46 AM »
I'll second, third or fourth the Jennings family at Montana Bullet Works for their customer services.
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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2013, 03:46:22 AM »
I have never loaded for a 44 but have used these Leadhead brand bullets in other revolver calibers and like them very much.  Here is the link  http://www.proshootpro.com/pcbul.htm

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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2014, 04:36:53 PM »
I have never loaded for a 44 but have used these Leadhead brand bullets in other revolver calibers and like them very much.  Here is the link  http://www.proshootpro.com/pcbul.htm


I use the RCBS 44-250-K (very close to the "original design" Keith style bullet) from them.  Very good bullets and very accurate in my Bisley.  I have pushed them close to 1500 fps with no leading problems. 

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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2014, 04:44:24 PM »
Roger, what did the original look like???
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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2014, 02:40:39 AM »
I get my 444 Marlin slugs from Beartooth Bullets, my 200 gn Keith style swc 38/357 slugs from Colorado Custom Cast Bullets, 295-300 gn Keith style 44 spl/mag slugs from the same place and my 240 gn Keith style swc 45 slugs from my brother in law (great guy). 

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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2014, 10:28:13 AM »
Roger, what did the original look like???
Steve


I'm guessing this was directed at me.


The original design was of course the Ideal #429421 which was designed by Elmer Keith and later became the Lyman #429421.  At some point, some brilliant soul at Lyman changed the design of the mould.  The original featured a deep, square bottomed lube groove that would hold a good supply of lube and a deep crimp groove with a long sloping lead in for a secure crimp.  For whatever reason, these were changed to a shallow, round bottom lube groove and a shallow square profile crimp groove.  No less than Uncle Elmer himself raised a major ruckus over these changes.  Lyman changed the design again, but it wasn't quite the same as the original.


RCBS had a 245 grain SWC mould that was highly regarded, but decided to go back to the drawing board and make a mould that was closer to Elmer's original design.  The 44-250-K was the result.  Many highly regarded shooters who have firsthand experience with the original Ideal moulds have declared the RCBS a very, very close match to it.  I have no experience with the originals, but I can tell you that the 44-250-K shot exceptionally well in several .44 caliber guns I have tried it in.

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Re: Commercial cast 44 mag bullets
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2014, 11:06:02 AM »
As have the Lyman 429421s in several ov mine??? Seems every mold maker has his opinion of what Elmer designed. Verbal Smith offers his as original design?
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