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do we need to worry??...Please read
« on: November 13, 2012, 01:11:16 PM »

Obama Waited A Whole 24 Hours

Before Telling The UN

We Are All In


New UN Gun Treaty Meetings Set For MarchUnfortunately I was expecting to be writing a thank you to all of the patriots that gave it their all during this gruesome campaign. We were going to be preparing for Governor Romney's agenda instead we must prepare for the worst. You have seen how much damage President Obama has generated in four years; now that he does not have to worry about re-election we will finally see his true agenda. This is not a prediction; he has said it when he did not know the cameras were rolling:President Obama: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."Russian Prime Minister Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir."
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2012, 02:12:54 PM »
Be afraid, be very afraid...  the treaty on the surface doesn't sound too bad, so hussein can get the senate democrats and some republicans to pledge their votes, then amend it in a midnight meeting and the 2nd amendment would be history.

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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2012, 02:51:25 PM »
I think it is way too late to start worrying.  Your main concerns should be whether you have sufficient arms and munitions to surivive a initial onslaught by swat with nat'l guard support and enough local support to be able to resist for the long term.  Do not buy any crap about the neighborhood leo or local guard units not firing on innocent civilians because they do it now and they will not see you as anything other than the enemy and will not hesitate to kill you or your family.  Anyone remember Waco? 
Oh yeah, you need to worry and you need to worry very much.  I would look for a milita or something similar to join as goiong it alone is much more difficult, although not impossible.  Good luck in the future and I hope you survive.

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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2012, 03:52:33 PM »
NO. Do not worry. If you worry , and it happens, you have wasted a lot of energy and been upset also, causing health issues. If you worry and it does not happen, you have wasted a lot of energy, been upset, and possibly caused yourself health issues.
 The word is PLAN. What are your most plausible scenarios, what are your most likely and successful responses, what resources will you need to achieve this ? If you are planning to directly confront some SWAT unit, I suggest that your plan consist of a good life insurance policy. This is a chess match, not Modern Warfare.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2012, 08:46:44 PM »
These are sure troubling times!  Here I was worrying about looters..but fighting off the govt.?
 Last weekend did winter walk around the house..and have been taking notice of other homes in area.  I have come to conclusion that the modern American home is a poorly designed one for defense...what with all those windows and door openings.  If anyone armed outside wanted in..you sure wouldn't want to be walking upright inside!
     So what is answer?  The only thing I could come up with would be steel plates over windows & doors..perhaps some type of hanger system for removal..but the larger ones would be heavy!
   Best probably would be built-in on new construction..slide or fall into place between walls..but you still have problem of roof..chainsaw up there & they could burn you out!
   Other than a reinforced concrete bunker with most living areas underground..and air filteration, water & waste removal built in?  But who would want to have to live like that in the U.S.?  Kind of depressing ain't it!

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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2012, 02:13:37 AM »
Mikey, the school principal where my wife works is a retired Army Colonel and he says the military won't fire on civilians.
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2012, 05:10:53 AM »
maybe this will be the wake up  call


and  people will snap out of their FANTASY WORLD


AND REALIZE  THAT  DEMOCRATS ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO FREEDOM


and that  the ''lesser of two evils''  IS the  ONLY  game in town....for now




i did  not like mitt romnee  much
but  he is a great business man......good enough to choose him over the communist


but  voting  for the man  is  done  in the primaries
after that in the general election...VOTE  PARTY....
..with  very few exceptions...[i have yet to find an exception]


all you have to do  is read the party platforms
dems  want more gun control
repubs want  less gun control


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DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2012, 05:29:28 AM »
Mikey, the school principal where my wife works is a retired Army Colonel and he says the military won't fire on civilians.
Gen. McArthur had troops fire on vetrens turned civilians  in Washington DC, Kent State students , ...................... so what new reason does this col. have to make him believe it won't happen again ?
Consider the military can't arrest civilians , think about it.
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2012, 05:39:25 AM »
i  think  more than 2%  will fire  on the civilians  if told to do  so


i think  that less then 50%  will fire on his fellow soldiers to defrnd the civilians


i don't think you can argue with these numbers


it could be     over 50% will fire on us if told to and less the 2%  will fire to defend us
nut  this point dould be argued....my first oiunt can't


and  how much damage and intimidation could they cause
at  kent state...did  any soldeirs fire to stop a civilian from being shot????
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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no one is encouraged to do anything dangerous or break any laws.

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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2012, 07:40:56 AM »
Mikey, the school principal where my wife works is a retired Army Colonel and he says the military won't fire on civilians.

He is an old school dude, I would not rely on his opinion at all.
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2012, 12:08:33 PM »
I believe the military is made up of people just like us, that believe our Constituion and want to protect it. I don't think that once someone enters the military they become some programed robot to follow every order they are given without any thought. I really don't think that if it came down to it, that many of them would fire on civilians trying to protect their Constitutional rights. Just go ask people that are in the military. I have, and not one of them said they would follow an order to kill resistant citizens protecting their right to own a firearm.     
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2012, 03:38:31 PM »
"People just like us"......... that is the problem. There are a bunch here that would fire on people that perform abortions...... that is constitutional. There are those that would continue to prosecute and persecute people who use drugs----even if the state says it is legal.  There are people in the military who don't like homosexuals.....and homosexuals that are not inclined to put up with any crap from people whom do not like them. There are black nationalists- and white supremacists. This Idea of the "Super Soldier"- Captain America- is just that, a comic book fantasy. Those soldiers are trained to obey orders, and the power structure is not dumb, they will send urban born and educated soldiers with a cosmopolitan outlook to Redneck areas where they will have no real problem with controlling a bunch of inbred semi-intelligent hoosiers that they hold in distain. They will send rural born and educated with conservative backgrounds to citys where they will have no hesitation to open up on the "boyz in the hood", that they consider to be welfare cheats, illegal aliens- OTHERS, not actually Americans.
      Have you ever read "Lord of the Flies"? Civilization is a veneer, not solid wood, and just under the surface is a whole different world just waiting for the cover to rupture to be revealed. Once it is, and the first round of some type of violence begins , all bets are off, because now EVERYONE is all in, they ALL see themselves as "saving America" by "pacifying " it, they will ALL be willing to "destroy the village in order to save the village". They (police and military) are a weapon, to be used by whomever holds the controls at the moment, they can and will find or rationalize whatever they need to be operational. A tank does not care who drives it, nor a plane on whom the bombs dropped from it fall.
     This is clear with many of the 3rd party folks here. We know that both devout Democrats AND devout Republicans in that situation would find the FIRST imperative to "restore order", and both would do pretty much whatever it took to achieve that. THAT IS THE GREAT LIE-  that they are concerned about rights and freedom, they are both all about control, just in favor of different masters.


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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2012, 12:24:49 PM »
just look at what appened  in KATRINA


if they  do  start confiscateing
will you fire  on fellow americans in uniform??


not  suggesting this.....just asking


how  about  mexican or canadian troops


watch the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUnqdf09uvw&feature=related
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2012, 02:47:27 PM »
maybe this will be the wake up  call


and  people will snap out of their FANTASY WORLD


AND REALIZE  THAT  DEMOCRATS ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO FREEDOM


and that  the ''lesser of two evils''  IS the  ONLY  game in town....for now




i did  not like mitt romnee  much
but  he is a great business man......good enough to choose him over the communist


but  voting  for the man  is  done  in the primaries
after that in the general election...VOTE  PARTY....
..with  very few exceptions...[i have yet to find an exception]


all you have to do  is read the party platforms
dems  want more gun control
repubs want  less gun control


please go to this web site


http://capwiz.com/nssf/mailapp/
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47-70 GOVT. Good post Sir, agreed. I really doubt most of the obama supporters here even own a gun, let alone hunt or shoot. Looks like we got the entire graduating class from the dnc here. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2012, 07:17:08 AM »
We could not get the 50million gun owners to vote as they should have, do you relay think they will raise a hand when the time comes.  They will just complain and blame someone else for the problem

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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2012, 08:21:42 AM »
Quote from Powderman:
"I really doubt most of the obama supporters here even own a gun, let alone hunt or shoot. Looks like we got the entire graduating class from the dnc here. POWDERMAN."


Sorry to break into you alls little private club here. By the way PW, try coming into my house uninvited and find out if I own any guns. Hope you can count past 10.
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2012, 08:24:34 AM »
eLet's not be unrealistic.  My father was an ATF agent.  He's passed on now.  I remember when my father-in-law inherited a factory made .410 smooth barrel handgun.  It was during my dad's career that the gov't annuonced such weapons to be henceforth illegal.  Those who owned them had a grace period in which they could turn them in.  Beyond that date, said firearms would be illegal (a felony) to possess.  I didn't actually see the gun, but after the grace period, my father-in-law tried to give it to me to keep it in the family.  No way, I told him.  Quoted the law to him.  He has also since passed on.  I never did know what became of that gun. 
My point is, we speak with bravado about keeping our guns after they are declared illegal.  The ATF won't fold because the new law is bad.  They will enforce it.  Everyone here would comply.  If you say you wouldn't, you haven't thought it through.  I have a particular rifle that I've owned for about 25 years.  Price tag was very high, even then.  My favorite gun.  But if the ATF comes with a search warrant to seize it, I won't (and you wouldn't either) fight them.  I would not break a state or federal law unless the country was divided so completely that we had devolved into civil war.  We will obey the gun laws, not matter how stupid or unfair or in violation of the 2nd Amendment. 
The little .410 was once legal, then it became illegal to possess.  It can and I think likely will happen again. 
Rush Limbaugh said today that Mark Warner was interviewed.  Warner said he had an "A" rating with NRA and he believed in the citizens being armed.  But then he said enough is enough and it's time to get tough with gun laws to keep the kind used in the recent killings out of our hands.
I think the time is coming.  I think the nation voted stupidly, and the idiot's second term will show us some more unconstitutional laws.  First, "assualt rifles" will be illegal to sell.  Then they will be illegal to own.  Semi-auto pistols will become California style only, then it will be illegal to own a magazine that holds more than 10.  Then it will be illegal to sell or own or buy any weapon of any kind that can't reasonably considered for sporting use.  Defensive weapons will be banned. 
Remember when we had to show ID to buy handgun ammo?  Had to sign for it.  That kind of stuff is coming back, only stronger.  It will be show ID and pay a huge tax.  Then it will be no handgun ammo to be bought or sold or owned.   
It will come to us a little at a time, not all at once.  We can't prepare for a little at a time.  We will simply comply.  If Obama tried to pass extreme measures all at once, the outcry would be too strong.  But look for it fellows. It's coming soon to an ATF office near you.   

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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2012, 11:13:23 AM »
......... that is the problem. There are a bunch here that would fire on people that perform abortions......
Please refresh my memory, I must have missed the post that said it.
abortion is my number one issue and I certainly wouldn't.
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2012, 06:23:17 AM »
Mike in V. I will not comply. I have little to live for with all of my health problems all of which result in me living in pain 24/7. The meds and medical devices reduce the pain but it is never gone. I still have periods where I take break through meds, curl up and cry.

If my my legal refusal to surrender my firearms results in my death then perhaps that will be the start of every gun owner saying NO. Then if possible take a couple of the JBTs with you. From then on, ambush the DHS and FEMA until no one wants to work for them.

Someone has to die to get this thing rolling for the good side. My partner will object like hell but I won't mind it being me. Really.
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2012, 06:25:59 AM »
Mike in V. I will not comply. I have little to live for with all of my health problems all of which result in me living in pain 24/7. The meds and medical devices reduce the pain but it is never gone. I still have periods where I take break through meds, curl up and cry.
 
 If my my legal refusal to surrender my firearms results in my death then perhaps that will be the start of every gun owner saying NO. Then if possible take a couple of the JBTs with you. From then on, ambush the DHS and FEMA until no one wants to work for them.
 
 Someone has to die to get this thing rolling for the good side. My partner will object like hell but I won't mind it being me. Really.

oops, double entry, sorry :-[
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2012, 10:21:53 AM »
maybe this will be the wake up  call


and  people will snap out of their FANTASY WORLD


AND REALIZE  THAT  DEMOCRATS ARE THE BIGGEST THREAT TO FREEDOM


and that  the ''lesser of two evils''  IS the  ONLY  game in town....for now




i did  not like mitt romnee  much
but  he is a great business man......good enough to choose him over the communist


but  voting  for the man  is  done  in the primaries
after that in the general election...VOTE  PARTY....
..with  very few exceptions...[i have yet to find an exception]


all you have to do  is read the party platforms
dems  want more gun control
repubs want  less gun control


please go to this web site


http://capwiz.com/nssf/mailapp/
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