45 COLT PRIMING QUESTION

[markp]

I managed to put two primers in backwards while loading 45 colt. Win  primers and win brass.
Should I while wearing safety glasses gentlee push the primers out with my decapping die or throw the brass away or other ??



   

[quickdtoo]

Add hearing protection and go for it, been there, done it. 

Tim

[.22-5-40]

Hello, markp.  I just finished de-priming 6 live-primed  .44 Spec. cases. ..used drill press to push out primers..in my case I was pushing directly on anvil..nothing exciting happened..and after haveing done so many times in past..didn't expect any surprises.  In your case, your pressing on solid surface of primer..unless you wack it hard enough to dent, your fine!

[markp]

I was gentle and as expected it went off without a hitch.  I get real gentle handling primers.


Thanks Guys

[Blackhawker]

Here is the million dollar question:
Now that you see how easy it is for them to come out and without any sign of damage or markings, were you tempted to re-use them?   

[Land_Owner]

I always reuse the atypically backward inserted primer without hesitation or failure to fire.  In a Handi-rifle or Super Blackhawk there is no risk that I precieve.  Potential deconstruction of a loaded round that does not fire is not a deterrent to reuse of that primer.  Impact bullet pullers were made for this.

[Blackhawker]

Have you ever taken apart a bullet that has been fired upon but didn't detonate?  I've never known what to do with dead rounds like that.  Too scared to use my kinetic bullet puller on one.

I always reuse the atypically backward inserted primer without hesitation or failure to fire.  In a Handi-rifle or Super Blackhawk there is no risk that I precieve.  Potential deconstruction of a loaded round that does not fire is not a deterrent to reuse of that primer.  Impact bullet pullers were made for this.

[Land_Owner]

First, I cock the hammer and refire the round. 

Failing that and back at the loading bench, I unload the misfired round with the impact bullet puller to save the bullet, save the powder, and hopefully save the case.  There is little chance that the powder, pounded only by a kinetic bullet puller, will reverse detonate a primer that has been struck by a spring activated firing pin yet did not go off. 

Then I resize the case and deprime the spent but unfired primer.   Then I make the struck primer inert with WD40.

Die makers also sell bullet pullers and collets for different calibers to use in your ram if there are a lot of loaded rounds to be deconstructed. 

[quickdtoo]

Modern primers are NOT easy to kill. 

Tim

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/killprimers.shtml

[.22-5-40]

Here is the million dollar question:
Now that you see how easy it is for them to come out and without any sign of damage or markings, were you tempted to re-use them?   

I unprimed some .22 Hornet brass..was tempted to re-use..in fact did reprime couple of cases..But..the primers slipped in without much resistance..must have been swaged slightly smaller first time thru.  Now upon firing, the powder pressure might have expanded the primer walls tight to pocket..and might not..I didn't feel like gambling with a cratered breech block face from leaking gas on the savings from a few primers...I tossed e'm.

[Land_Owner]

..in fact did reprime couple of cases..But..the primers slipped in without much resistance...I tossed e'm.

If that had been my experience, I concur, I would toss mine too.  So far, that has not been what I have experienced in the calibers I reload. 

I have one Factory round from a box of 20 on the loading bench right now in which the primer was inserted backward.  Someone in Quality Control was out on coffee break that day.  Makes me wonder how many they inadvertently load that way and what they do with those themselves?

[beerbelly]

I reuse primers in cases like this, except a few where the anvil came out of the primer. those I tossed.

[Blackhawker]

I didn't mean to take over the thread but I kinda thought it was additive to the original question.  Thanks to all for the added info. 
Tim, that's interesting data on killing primers.  I always wondered how many days in oil it would take to kill them. 
Land Owner, I always recock and fire repeatedly when I hit a "dead" primer.  Many times, they actually fire the second or third time.  In a single shot, after counting roughly ten seconds, I'll open the action and turn the round roughly 45 to 60 degrees and oddly enough, they usually fire that way. 

[srussell]

i once in my younger days deprimed 200, 3006 blanks reused the primers no problem