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Quote from: Swampman on December 14, 2012, 03:14:53 AMThey don't meet the specs. The alloys, dimensions, coatings, etc. are not to the specs. The Colts are..... maybe for military contract but if it were true foe commerical sales then we would not be dealing with large take down pins on one end or the other or booth or off set pins.
They don't meet the specs. The alloys, dimensions, coatings, etc. are not to the specs. The Colts are.....
Quote from: SHOOTALL on December 14, 2012, 03:46:18 AMQuote from: Swampman on December 14, 2012, 03:14:53 AMThey don't meet the specs. The alloys, dimensions, coatings, etc. are not to the specs. The Colts are..... maybe for military contract but if it were true foe commerical sales then we would not be dealing with large take down pins on one end or the other or booth or off set pins. We no longer are. The Colt M4 Carbine and all new Colts are mil-spec. The fact is even the pins both large and small are mil-spec. Colts are mil-spec.
As long as the pins meet some mil-spec then they are mil-spec.
they are mil spec, they are mil spec, they are mil spec, they are mil spec, they are mil spec, I think I can , I think I can, I think I can
right now I have only one AR15, an AR15A2 with an Aimpoint on the handle. I got lucky and the trigger is pretty good. I have two bare lowers. On one I put a GI trigger assembly, what a POS. I had a small windfall and am going to build a nice mid/long range AR15. It will start with a VLTOR heavy wall upper receiver and a Kreiger heavy fluted barrel of 22" ( I think ). Locally we have 300, 500 and 1000 yd ranges. Any suggestions on a scope? I am thinking of a Bushnell 4.5-30X50 probably with a Mil Dot. I know the Nightforce 12-42X56 is the more popular for 1000 yd shooting but it is also more that twice the $$.Since most of our shooting is in the winter it is with gloves on. I am thinking a 4-4.5# trigger. Opinions on anything?
mil spec is irrelevant if what you have does what you want it to do.
My oldest son is wanting to add an AR to his stable. Thinking about buying him one for Christmas. Wondering if any of you have any experiance with this one: http://www.star15.com/DSC_MIDNIGHTDRAGON.html Good? Bad? Indifferent?
Quote from: Cuts Crooked on November 17, 2012, 07:25:33 PMdid you get it or not?......did i miss where you posted?Yes, I got it for him, and it arrived in time to be under the tree on Christmas day. Actually, I WANT that rifle....and I have never had any real desire to own a "black gun". It is a work of gun makers art!But......I have been reluctant to comment, given the recent events involving a school shooting, since my son is autistic. I hope you understand.
did you get it or not?......did i miss where you posted?
Totally understand. Did he say "nice gun"?
Let us also keep in mind that a "Mil-Spec" M4 is a 14.5" barrel "select fire" (semi-auto/burst or semi-auto/full auto) carbine. . . . ."NOT" a 16" barrel semi-auto carbine. . . . .that's a AR15 carbine. Calling a AR15 carbine a M4 is like calling a AR15 20" rifle a M16. . . . .not the same, not at all! Also, you'll be VERY hard pressed to shoot 1/2 MOA groups with either a M4, M16, AR15 carbine or AR15 rifle if they have a chrome lined bore. . . . .which ALL "Mil-Spec" M4 and M16 variants will have. I The chrome line bore helps with ease of maintenance, durability and bore life but has a real negative effect on accuracy. Anyone that was in the military or that has really world experience with chrome line bore M4, M16, AR15 carbines and AR15 rifles would know this.i beg to differ .. but ... i have three bushmaster barrels and twoFNMI barrels .. all chromed ..they shoot very very well . one of the FN barrels has shot 1/2 @ 100 .. with lake city ..NYH1.