Aren't some of these guys Liberals ?

[Anna]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/slideshow/2012/11/16/celebs-packing-heat/?intcmp=features#slide=1&intcmp=features

Some of them come as no surprise, but a couple of them are always on the left side of other issues. Oh,I guess the
commoners are not good enough to own a gun. Or they are not smart enough to have such an awesome responsibility.
Only a Hollywood star has the mental capacity to understand all of that. So if we are lucky enough to make a Tv commercial
about the deodorant we use does that then give us the right ? 

[magooch]

I think that any well known person who brags about hating guns and that they wouldn't have one in their home is just asking for trouble.  There are some libs that are that dumb.

[BUGEYE]

Senator Percy from Ill was anti gun until his daughter was murdered in their home..
he then bought a gun....

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good example  of the old saying


''hind sight  is 20-20''

[lakota]

Dont forget about Diane "I have a California concealed carry permit but you peasants dont have the right to own a gun" Feinstein.

[ironglow]

Senator Percy from Ill was anti gun until his daughter was murdered in their home..
he then bought a gun....

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  "Locking the barn door after the horse is gone?"
   
   Of that villian's list , I can see, Trump, Stern & certainly Eastwood as genuine.....  If I am not mistaken with any of them...the rest appear to be genunine hippy-crits!

[yellowtail3]

not everyone who is a poiltical liberal, is a gun-grabber or prohibitionist... they're just defined that way, sometimes.

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birds of a feather..........


for the most part

[SHOOTALL]

I would guess most visiting this site have a gun but would suggest there are alot of different birds here

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but  most are self suppoeting  and  lean toward freedom  here

[ChungDoQuan]

Something like 40% of liberals are gun owners. There's even a Liberal Gun Club on the web.

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Something like 40% of liberals are gun owners. There's even a Liberal Gun Club on the web.

my parents are gun toting liberals


and they ALWAYS  vote for gun grabbing  politicians


they  just carried  illegal  before they got a permits
liberals  think the laws are for other people

[yellowtail3]

liberals  think the laws are for other people

No, it's POLICE that think thataway...

[hillbill]

Something like 40% of liberals are gun owners. There's even a Liberal Gun Club on the web.

my parents are gun toting liberals
 
info i did not have, i just assumed liberals would not own a gun.or if they did, would not carry it.now im confused? why would you vote for sumone who wants to take away a constituional right that yu excercise?on a daily basis? i think this is what makes it so hard to fight them.what they do makes no sense and contains no logic.
 
our side works on logic and facts.we have problems dealing with people who dont deal in fact or logic.it may be our undoing but i dont know how to fight it?


and they ALWAYS  vote for gun grabbing  politicians


they  just carried  illegal  before they got a permits
liberals  think the laws are for other people

[DDZ]

Something like 40% of liberals are gun owners. There's even a Liberal Gun Club on the web.

Ok maybe. Wonder what percent of that 40% understand that the 2nd amendment was written so we have the capacity to resist tyranny. Not so we have a gun to hunt rabbits or protect your money from a robber. What percent of that bunch thinks we need more laws that affect everyone, so bad guys can't get guns? How many of the 40% vote for people that would love to have guns registered, outlaw semi's, or restrict magazine capacity, or just remove all guns from society? 
I know some of those 40% Chung. They are the ones that say, "what does anyone need an AR style rifle for" Or, "what do you need a 17 round magazine for" Or, "we need more laws to keep guns out of bad guys hands" etc... While they own their shotgun or '06 for hunting, they like to have government that will set limits on what can be owned.

[Anna]

It was Brad Pitt that surprised me.

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HILL BILL


you are correct  ...liberals are either stupid or deranged
my parrents actually enjoy shooting and the feeling  of security a gun gives them
they also  think guns are a nessesary evil  that need to be regulated
and  that COLLECTIVELY  we can build a better society

[ChungDoQuan]

I'd say MOST "liberals" are conservatives on a lot of issues. I'm not a member of either party. Conservative extremists call me a liberal, because even if I agree with them on 99 points and disagree on 1, that's enough to make me a liberal in their eyes. So be it. The conservative extremists are the ones drawing lines in the sand--- most of us are just walking their own path. MOST voters are undeclared. There are things in both parties I just can't abide. The difference is that "liberals" accept those differences in opinion, whereas conservatives do not. Conservatives are like fundamentalists that want me to join their "religion," and in fact, I can't tell the difference between their religion and their politics. I'm not a Democratic Party member, and I'll never be a Republican Party member. Like this election showed, if the right finds some sane candidates that are not RNC extremist puppets, people like me might vote for them. As long as they're on the lunatic fringe, not a chance.

[SHOOTALL]

I'd say MOST "liberals" are conservatives on a lot of issues. I'm not a member of either party. Conservative extremists call me a liberal, because even if I agree with them on 99 points and disagree on 1, that's enough to make me a liberal in their eyes. So be it. The conservative extremists are the ones drawing lines in the sand--- most of us are just walking their own path. MOST voters are undeclared. There are things in both parties I just can't abide. The difference is that "liberals" accept those differences in opinion,Oh really so the brain behind the Obama re election drive who said those in opposition will pay after the election was really accepting a difference of opinion. whereas conservatives do not. Conservatives are like fundamentalists that want me to join their "religion," and in fact, I can't tell the difference between their religion and their politics.Good then they are good consertive christians I'm not a Democratic Party member, and I'll never be a Republican Party member. Like this election showed, if the right finds some sane candidates that are not RNC extremist puppets, people like me might vote for them. As long as they're on the lunatic fringe, not a chance.they do need to pick their battles and quit spinning their wheels on issues that are only bait set out by the democrats.

[ChungDoQuan]

There ya go.

[hillbill]

HILL BILL


you are correct  ...liberals are either stupid or deranged
my parrents actually enjoy shooting and the feeling  of security a gun gives them
they also  think guns are a nessesary evil  that need to be regulated
and  that COLLECTIVELY  we can build a better society

 
your post made me think a lot. when it comes right down to it, i guess i believe in gun control also to a certain extent.
 
i like the backround check we have now where i live. you give them your drivers license and they check to make sure your not  a felon or a nut. i think that is reasonable,however that being said, i know a few felons whose crimes had nothing to do with violence or weapons that should be able to own guns but that is a fine line and really no real way to sort it out.
 
i also think fully auto guns should be regulated. does that make me a liberal? i do honestly feel better that they are tightly regulated. im sure a lot of people feel this way also. i would like to hear others thoughts on this as well.

[Anna]

No one would ever hijack an airplane if everyone on board had a gun! Think of 9/11, Mr. Box cutter
this is my Colt Python. Even if you shot a hole in the fuselage it would have been much better than the way that ended. After awhile no one would ever try that again and we wouldn't need the perverts from
the TSA.

[Defoe]

HILL BILL


you are correct  ...liberals are either stupid or deranged
my parrents actually enjoy shooting and the feeling  of security a gun gives them
they also  think guns are a nessesary evil  that need to be regulated
and  that COLLECTIVELY  we can build a better society

I've seen some enigmas in my time, but your folks take the cake.
** no dis-respect intended **

[hillbill]

HILL BILL


you are correct  ...liberals are either stupid or deranged
my parrents actually enjoy shooting and the feeling  of security a gun gives them
they also  think guns are a nessesary evil  that need to be regulated
and  that COLLECTIVELY  we can build a better society

I've seen some enigmas in my time, but your folks take the cake.
** no dis-respect intended **

this is just my guess on this subject. liberals think they are the elite and way smarter and have waaaay better judgement than us commoners.therefore they should not be subject to the rules us commoners must live by. lots of them are better educated than i am, but still couldnt change a flat tire.much less patch the hole in the tire.without us working class blokes they would be walkin every where they go and starveing. sumpin to think about?

[Squib]

No one would ever hijack an airplane if everyone on board had a gun! Think of 9/11, Mr. Box cutter
this is my Colt Python. Even if you shot a hole in the fuselage it would have been much better than the way that ended. After awhile no one would ever try that again and we wouldn't need the perverts from
the TSA.

two or three average women could give a fit man a good fight in an enclosed space that would disallow him the ability to throw them around, they could wrap him up and ground him quick.  two average guys could do the same to a fit guy.  one on one flip a coin.  a wimp blindsiding a haus has the possibility to end a fight outright.  in a plane full of people there were LOTS of types to jump on those guys with box cutters, take the box cutters, and use them.  the problem is they were all cowards.  I don't care what anyone says to the contrary.  I have a tough enough time holding back my anger due to general rudeness let alone an overt insult, how someone could sit still and quiver while being threatened with physical harm disgusts me.  those types want us all to be like them, because they know they are disadvantaged psychologically- they cannot justify us being armed too!

[ironglow]

Something like 40% of liberals are gun owners. There's even a Liberal Gun Club on the web.

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  You said "LIBERAL Club"...didn't you mean "LIARS Club" ?

[ironglow]

No one would ever hijack an airplane if everyone on board had a gun! Think of 9/11, Mr. Box cutter
this is my Colt Python. Even if you shot a hole in the fuselage it would have been much better than the way that ended. After awhile no one would ever try that again and we wouldn't need the perverts from
the TSA.

two or three average women could give a fit man a good fight in an enclosed space that would disallow him the ability to throw them around, they could wrap him up and ground him quick.  two average guys could do the same to a fit guy.  one on one flip a coin.  a wimp blindsiding a haus has the possibility to end a fight outright.  in a plane full of people there were LOTS of types to jump on those guys with box cutters, take the box cutters, and use them.  the problem is they were all cowards.  I don't care what anyone says to the contrary.  I have a tough enough time holding back my anger due to general rudeness let alone an overt insult, how someone could sit still and quiver while being threatened with physical harm disgusts me.  those types want us all to be like them, because they know they are disadvantaged psychologically- they cannot justify us being armed too!

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  Squib;   Not all were cowards that day on flight #93, flying over Shanksville, PA!  Among others on that plane were a couple of courageous men named Todd Beamer and Jeremy Glick.  Yes, they were initially surprised and caught off guard..who would have imagined it in 2001?
   As soon as they found out, (by calls from their families at home) what the enemy's intent was, they formulated a plan...  Beamer conferred with Glick and others....and formulated a plan..and marshalled their forces...   When Todd Beamer said.."EVERYBODY READY....."LET'S ROLL!";  they attacked the enemy and thwarted his plan of hitting our capitol building..
 
  Here in leadership was Todd Beamer..a serious Christian , and Jeremy Glick..a Jew, acting together to defeat an enemy with evil intent.  God grant that this cooperation will continue...

[yellowtail3]

  Here in leadership was Todd Beamer..a serious Christian , and Jeremy Glick..a Jew, acting together to defeat an enemy with evil intent.  God grant that this cooperation will continue...

Don't forget Mark Bingham, the 6'4" 225lb rugby player was there and working with the above named guys to fight back against the terrorists:





Went to the same school as Beamer. Mark was one of those heroes. Incidentally, he was gay... can you believe that some here would call him a funny bunny? Not to his face, of course.

http://markbingham.com/hero.html

[Squib]

I'm not sure why phone calls had to be made, why weren't the hijackers beat to death at the moment they made the attempt to take control.  it doesn't take long to tackle, trample, and stomp in a head.  I'm also skeptical of any phonecalls made during the hijacking, and any stories derived from such an event. 

It seems to me that intent is a negligible concern.  so what, the hijackers wanted to crash the plane(s)... would you wait and see if a few burglars were gonna take your valuables and leave, or burn your house down (with you and your family in it) before shooting them, or just shoot them after they kick your door the first time? 

[ironglow]

  I had not heard the name mentioned in 2001, so I googled...   > Mark Bigham, flight 93 <  ..and found a lot of controversey surrounding the idea..  Perhaps an exercise for our conspiracy theorists..
  In any case, if he was on the plane and did act in a heroic way..kudos to him.
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  Squib;
   If you recall, hijackings previously to 2001 were simple hijackings which forced the plane to land in a foreign airfield..thus, completing the hijacker's mission.  Sometimes one or two passengers were killed..or empty planes blown up..as was the case in Algeria.  Never before had hijackers taken over an airliner to purposely crash the plane.  So as far as the passengers knew as the incident started, the plane would land somewhere in Cuba oir elsewhere and most passengers would eventually go home.
  As I recall, Todd Beamer and Jeremy Glick did not call out, but were called FROM home..as family members watched events transpire on TV.  When they found out that suicide was the mission of the islamic crazies..they decided they were likely doomed, but decided to prevent the murderers from accomplishing their mission..(destruction of the capitol building & as many elected officials as they could).
   A rather basic conclusion, when one reviews the information available. and historical perspective of people on the morning of 9/11/01...