I don't see any Federal government attacks on the people if they chose to seccede. We are covered constitutionally for the move. Lincoln had an excuse and the fervor of the anti slavery movement to help his cause. Obama is the slavery movement. Who would Obama get to fight this battle. People are far more educated and the first Civil war was an American disgrace that most would rather not repeat. I'm not saying that there would not be some violence just that it would not be like the Civil war was.
"Obama is the slavery movement."
Very well said.
I agree with much of the rest of what you wrote. I don't think secession would be as bloody as in the 1860's. If there was enough support for it that the state legislature voted for it and the governor signed it, that would create a huge crisis of confidence for the Fed Gov. I think we're looking at a break up of the USA, much like that of the USSR. There will be a power vacuum and it will be filled by the states.
The great thing about an independent Texas is that it could implement its own immigration policies and immediately start round ups of Mexicans for shipment back to where they belong. Purging society of deadweight would save billions in public welfare, unnecessary public schools excess crime and would open up jobs to Americans who would work on the books and who would pay taxes unlike the illegal aliens who work for tax free cash off the books and then get free health care, etc., as the expense of productive law abiding Americans.
A Mexican-free state with the size and resources and freedom of Texas would be a beacon for freedom loving white Americans who would jump at the chance to live in a parasite free community like we had before the LBJ Great Society. No affirmative action. No "Chicano Studies." No "Black Studies." De-funding the "Liberal arts", anti-American, anti-White curricula in tax payer funded schools and universities would save billions. You could have real education instead of white hating racist propaganda and recruiting centers for the unfit, the misbegotten and the dysfunctional whose only purpose is hating us and working to destroy us.
Groups of productive American refugees would flee crime infested, minority controlled areas and rush to a free and independent state where they could be part of a real community once again and not have to worry about being murdered by black flash mobs or Mexican gang bangers shooting each other over turf wars. One example of likely new residents would be Medical Doctors and other health care professionals driven out of the medical profession by Obamacare. I know people, myself included, who would take a pay cut and endure a lesser standard of living just to be around decent people once again. Imagine living in a community where you would hear church bells instead of gun shots from turf wars between black and Mexican gangbangers?
Texas could issue its own currency and free us from the tyranny of the Federal Reserve debt based notes. The possibilities of a free society that weeded out the parasites in favor of the producers are mind boggling.
Texas has enough of a technical basis and an aerospace tradition that it could conceivably its own space program or at least participate jointly with other states that did.
Just thinking and writing about the possibilities is exhilarating. America is too big to be saved, at least for the foreseeable future. Maybe in the distant future, the forces of European civilization could regroup in free states like Texas and actually pick up the pieces of other regions that will have collapsed into anarchy. A campaign of reclamation and rejuvenation could be possible.
+1, Texas actually owns and controls the oil fields here in southern NM. I seriously doubt that they would let them fall to the north. And our south is where Sandia and Los Alamos labs are located.
Not to mention white sands missile range, Holloman AFB, Cannon AFB, Fort Bliss in El Paso, the space port, URENCO nuclear enrichment, United Salt and Intrepid mines who mine a lot of potassium nitrate.
Westinghouse , Motorola, the military's VLR, the German AFB at Alamogordo, and that's just to list a very few. Texas would not sit on her hands and allow Mexico or someone else to control all of that right on her border. Also what a lot of people do not know, look at Alabama! Extremely high tech biological warfare labs that could end any civil war in only days.White sands has the delivery capibility
to put these horrors right in your back pocket.Kansas,Trident ICBM hardened silos that could target and destroy any submarines capabilitys by far.The new isotope production plant that is due to be built
near Hobbs NM very soon.WE in the south have NUKES, and little bugs that will make the Ebola Virus
look like the common cold. Now who exactly is afraid of who ?
Don't mess with Texas.
Wow. You're really thinking this thing through. Every time I sit down to write something I end up with 2,500 words. The possibilities are endless. You have opened an issue I have only wondered about, to wit, the corporate assets located within Texas and adjacent state borders.
There are other questions too. The USA is going broke and is over extended like other empires before it, namely, the British Empire, British India, the Hapsburg Empire, the old Ottomann Empire Yugoslavia and the USSR.
The British Empire was dissolved by accountants after Britain "won" WW2. It destroyed Germany but was too broke to hold its own empire together. For all of the blather about Gandhi and "non-violence", Gandhi was a minor annoyance to the British, who packed up and left India because they were bankrupted by WW2. After British withdrawal, Muslim Pakistan split off after a year of horrible sectarian violence that took 1 million lives.
The Hapsburg Empire, the Ottoman Empire and the USSR just collapsed. New countries moved in to fill the power vacuum in the case of the Habsburghs and the Ottomans, but not with the USSR. Russia is struggling to reconstitute its shattered people after 70 years of Bolshevism.
If the currency collapses in the US, as is increasingly likely, it would be a very drastic situation and lots of states could be looking for new arrangements.
Look at Texas and note that 5 land locked states are stacked right on top of Texas just like poker chips. All ethnically homogenious
with huge agricultural surpluses and shale oil reserves. Go west from there and you get Montana and Wyoming. West from there you get Idaho, Washington and Oregon. Pacific ocean sea ports, lots of resources.
Look at Louisiana and go due north and notice the 4 landlocked states stacked on top of Louisana like poker chips. Arkansas, Missouri, Iowa, and Minnesota. All bounded on the east by the mighty Mississippi River that ends up in the sea port of New Orleans, an important commercial hub.
What could be a more natural alignment of states than Texas, Louisana and the contiguous landlocked states up to the Canadian border and then west along the Canadian border to the Pacific.
I like the idea of a confederation. Each state has its own schools, its own criminal codes, its own "civil rights laws"
(i.e. none), its own immigration laws, and its own constitution, legislatures, governors and state courts, state militia, national guard, state troopers, etc. During the Civil War states actually had their own military, many units of which were merged with the Union Army.
OMG! Just think of it. No more "Black Studies." No more "Chicano studies." No more "Gay-LGBT-HIV" studies for us to fund!!! No more bitching and complaining "civil rights" activists in their thousand dollar suits and limousines and TV shows, telling us how evil we are. We will have the legal ability to define "
citizenhship" and it won't include them. As non-citizens, they can be deported to their...ah.... ancestral homelands, far from us where we will oppress them no more.
It's amazing how few taxes healthy, vibrant people need when they're not indentured with with "mandates" to fund parasites and freaks, when they don't have millions of third world parasites flooding across the borders and when they don't have to be constantly at war all over the world. Just writing about this is incredibly liberating.
There would be minimal need for a "defense" budget because the new Confederation would be engaged in defense and not imperialistic wars for Israel or any other country that has manipulated the US like a puppet. Note that most of the demographically troubled areas are the huge, unsustainable cities of the East and California. California will go its own way and burn itself out with bankruptcy and some kind of civil war. Although having an Hispanic majority now, when the easy living runs out and the welfare and free healthcare stop flowing, they may decide living is better in their own country. California is not sustainable.
Other states might fall like dominos into this alliance, namely the old Confederate states. They're loaded with minorities, but most minorities are not into nation building, but rather into nation destroying. When these 3d world invaders are no longer protected by the "civil rights" division of the federal DOJ, the demographic problem will kind of sort itself out in the way these conflicts have been historically resolved.
This would be a powerful union, economically and demographically. With a new gold based currency and no more Federal Reserve and Wall Street looting, this new confederacy could quickly be the center of gravity for a re-constituted North America. American has a problem with too many people sitting in the wagon and too few pulling it. Separate the takers from the makers and this new country would be a powerhouse. No foreign wars. No foreign empire.
If this new confederation openly promulgated a foreign policy of friendship toward all the other nations of the world with malice toward none, no imperialist wars of aggression, no more torturing people, no more drones killing people, etc...
I BELIEVE THAT OTHER COUNTRIES, WEARY OF U.S. WAR AND KILLING AND LOOTING, WOULD RUSH TO GRANT DIPLOMATIC RECOGNITION TO A NEWLY RECONSTITUTED, PEACE PROCLAIMING WHITE AMERICAN NATION STATE. AMERICA COULD ONCE AGAIN BE A BEACON OF LIGHT, OF LIFE AND OF HOPE TO THE OTHER PEOPLES OF THE WORLD AGAINST WHOM WE WILL NO LONGER WAGE WAR!
What better incentive could there be for other countries to extend diplomatic recognition to a new country? RECOGNIZE OUR NEW COUNTRY, HELP US ACHIEVE OUR FREEDOM AND WE WILL HELP YOU ACHIEVE YOURS.
RECOGNIZE US AND WE WILL NEVER KILL YOU, NEVER STEAL FROM YOU, NEVER OPPRESS YOU, NEVER BOMB YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN WITH DRONES AND WE'LL NEVER LOOT YOUR WEALTH.
God it felt good to write that!