Howdy, Sat AM son shot a 3x4 14" (all western w/o eye guards) w/ his Mod. 7 260 Rem. w/129 Nosler PT's, top of heart ran 30 feet end of story, My friend shot one in the field (175 yds.) yesterday first light (had to wait till you could see orange horns against yellow grass, 15 min, after hours opened) 3x3 17", 300 WSM 180 Nosler PT's PP, center of shoulder broadside, and mine a 3x3 w/Model 93 Mauser 7x57 I got in high school in 1970 using old machine screw turned 140 Nosler PT's at 25 yds @ 11:30 AM. (uphill spined him) Yesterday (last day of late buck) was the first day that bucks were seen w/does which is fairly typical in NE WA. We saw others yesterday but mine was uphill under the power line and was as dumb as dirt, so there ya go. All 1 shot kills w/Partitions and as Jonny B. says "pointy end forward and shoot them in in the front 1/2" -Muddy