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Thinking of those less fortunate. / With an addition for Dale
« on: November 22, 2012, 09:36:42 AM »
As we go into this festive holiday season, Thanksgiving through Christmas, I wish people would think of those less fortunate.  I'm not thinking about those who are just too lazy to work, or just want to live on the public dole.  But those who through no falt of their own, find themselves homeless and alone during these festive times.  I would like to repost something I posted back in 2010.  It's about one of these people.  Someone that was very near and dear to me, that I lost and found only after it was too late.  This person was homeless and lived on the street.  Why, no one knows. 
 

 
 Thinking of Mary  « on: December 19, 2010, 06:55:59 PM »             
 
The post about giving at this time of year caused me to start thinking about Mary.  Then I breakdown and cry, thinking about how things could have been different if only something small had been different years ago.

Back in 1971 while going to University Of Alaska, Fairbanks.  I met a young woman named Mary.  She was tall, vibrant, dark brown hair, brown eyes, and one of the most bubbly personalities you could meet.  We dated for several months, and we became very close, and intamate.  One thing I did learn about Mary was she was real paranoid about Fairbanks flooding.  She had been caught in the flood waters of the 68 flood and almost drown. 

I also met Leanna during that time.  Leanna was a hot little red head, with a body to kill for.  I let myself be drawn away from Mary, and ended up marrying Leanna.  I then left Alaska, often thinking of Mary.  I especially thought of Mary when three years later Leanna and I got divorced.  But Mary was in the past and I had no way of knowing what had happened to her.

I met Michelle in Pheonix and we got married in 1977.  In 1985 Michelle and I were reassigned to Eielson AFB here in Alaska.  One day I saw this old bag lady, pushing a shopping cart, wearing an orange Life Vest.  The type that goes over your head and keeps you on your back with your head above water.  I thought there goes a real Loon.  I retired and we moved away in 1989.  We returned to Fairbanks when Michelle retired in 1996.  Now I worked in Fairbanks and I saw the old bag lady more and more as I spent more time in Fairbanks.  I saw her getting into shoving matches with drunks, and other street people.  I asked who she was but no one seemed to know or care.  All they could tell me was that she did not talk.  I sort of felt sorry for her, wondering what had happened to her to cause her to be in that sort of shape.

Back in 2005, during the winter just before Christmas, I was in town and saw a commotion going on in the doorway of a business.  I went over to the area and there lay the old bag lady.  She had been lying in the cold for many hours, and was suffering from hypothermia.  I took my coat off and put it around her while waiting for an ambulance.  I knelt there and talked to her while we waited, trying to keep her concious.  The old lady never said a word.  Finally the ambulance arrived, and the ambulance crew started calling her Mary.  At that point it had no meaning to me.  As they got her ready to load on the ambulance she screamed "stop".  The ambulance crew was shocked, they had never heard her speak before.  Mary held out her arm to me, I moved close and she said, "Thank you Roggie" then laid back and went to sleep.  I was confussed, I had not told her my real name and no one calls me that anymore, how did she know me?  Then it hit me who she was.  I followed the ambulance to the hospital, but Mary did not survive the trip.

I wonder if I had not met Leanna, or had not fallen head over heels for her, what would Mary's life have been like? 
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Re: Thinking of those less fortunate.
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2012, 01:23:25 AM »
Well Rogg, like two ships passing in the night. Often we never know where the other comes from or ends up. At least you know Mary's end.

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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2012, 02:21:36 AM »
As we go into this festive holiday season, Thanksgiving through Christmas, I wish people would think of those less fortunate.  I'm not thinking about those who are just too lazy to work, or just want to live on the public dole.  But those who through no falt of their own, find themselves homeless and alone during these festive times.  I would like to repost something I posted back in 2010.  It's about one of these people.  Someone that was very near and dear to me, that I lost and found only after it was too late.  This person was homeless and lived on the street.  Why, no one knows. 
 

 
 Thinking of Mary  « on: December 19, 2010, 06:55:59 PM »             
 
The post about giving at this time of year caused me to start thinking about Mary.  Then I breakdown and cry, thinking about how things could have been different if only something small had been different years ago.

Back in 1971 while going to University Of Alaska, Fairbanks.  I met a young woman named Mary.  She was tall, vibrant, dark brown hair, brown eyes, and one of the most bubbly personalities you could meet.  We dated for several months, and we became very close, and intamate.  One thing I did learn about Mary was she was real paranoid about Fairbanks flooding.  She had been caught in the flood waters of the 68 flood and almost drown. 

I also met Leanna during that time.  Leanna was a hot little red head, with a body to kill for.  I let myself be drawn away from Mary, and ended up marrying Leanna.  I then left Alaska, often thinking of Mary.  I especially thought of Mary when three years later Leanna and I got divorced.  But Mary was in the past and I had no way of knowing what had happened to her.

I met Michelle in Pheonix and we got married in 1977.  In 1985 Michelle and I were reassigned to Eielson AFB here in Alaska.  One day I saw this old bag lady, pushing a shopping cart, wearing an orange Life Vest.  The type that goes over your head and keeps you on your back with your head above water.  I thought there goes a real Loon.  I retired and we moved away in 1989.  We returned to Fairbanks when Michelle retired in 1996.  Now I worked in Fairbanks and I saw the old bag lady more and more as I spent more time in Fairbanks.  I saw her getting into shoving matches with drunks, and other street people.  I asked who she was but no one seemed to know or care.  All they could tell me was that she did not talk.  I sort of felt sorry for her, wondering what had happened to her to cause her to be in that sort of shape.

Back in 2005, during the winter just before Christmas, I was in town and saw a commotion going on in the doorway of a business.  I went over to the area and there lay the old bag lady.  She had been lying in the cold for many hours, and was suffering from hypothermia.  I took my coat off and put it around her while waiting for an ambulance.  I knelt there and talked to her while we waited, trying to keep her concious.  The old lady never said a word.  Finally the ambulance arrived, and the ambulance crew started calling her Mary.  At that point it had no meaning to me.  As they got her ready to load on the ambulance she screamed "stop".  The ambulance crew was shocked, they had never heard her speak before.  Mary held out her arm to me, I moved close and she said, "Thank you Roggie" then laid back and went to sleep.  I was confussed, I had not told her my real name and no one calls me that anymore, how did she know me?  Then it hit me who she was.  I followed the ambulance to the hospital, but Mary did not survive the trip.

I wonder if I had not met Leanna, or had not fallen head over heels for her, what would Mary's life have been like?
Rodger I have always enjoyed reading your stories. I do remember reading this one a couple years back but had to take the time this morning a to read it again. There are also a couple girls in my past that I wonder what became of them.
I also remember a story you told about a fellow that drank some alcohol that was hid in a wood pile that killed him because it was so cold. If you get a chance could repost that one. Thanks Dale
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Re: Thinking of those less fortunate.
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2012, 03:45:32 AM »
That is something to think about. Thanks for the story,

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Re: Thinking of those less fortunate./ An addition for Dale
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2012, 09:02:14 AM »
OK Dale, I'll just tell what happened without looking up the old posting.

In November1972 Leanna and I were married in North Pole Alaska.  It was cold that year, with the temps dropping well below Zero weeks before our wedding.  We had lots of snow that year as well.  The night of our wedding my Mother-in-Law hosted a reception at her house.  There was lots of food and drink, with lots of Booze as well. 

An old man that lived second door up the street was known to overindulge and get drunk pretty fast.  His wife told him she was going to cut him off when she thought he had drank enough.  Once the party got started he went back to their house to get some items needed.  When he went back to the house he grabbed a bottle of Everclear and hid it outside in the wood pile near the front door.  That night his wife and several guest tried to keep him away from the booze, but he was soon drunk anyway.  Finally they cut him off, so he sat an sulked for a bit.  Then he decided he wanted to go outside for a smoke.  Someone should have picked up on that since many people were smoking in the house. 

When he did not come back soon someone went out looking for him.  He was found lying in the snow dead, with the bottle in his hand.  He had pulled the bottle from it's hiding place and taken a big drink.  The liquid in the bottle was 45 degrees below zero.  It froze his tongue, throat, and stomach, almost instantly.  The swelling from the freeze damage swelled up to the point it cut off his breathing.  He died rather fast, and as drunk as he was, he did not feel much pain, and probably never knew what was happening to him as he died.     
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Re: Thinking of those less fortunate. / With an addition for Dale
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2012, 09:53:37 AM »
That's a creepy story. I've seen a few that were similar but different. The common element was that if you try to stand between a drunk and his booze, the booze wins.  The saddest one I saw was a more gradual decline where the guy would fill a gallon milk jug with vodka and keep that on the back floorboards of his car. He'd go to work and step out occasionally for a swig. His wife and son found it and diluted it without taking it away. It didn't help much and the guy ended up dying from heavy drinking shortly after the dilution incidents. The lady was pretty much broke and we were three young guys renting a house. We let her live with us for about six months while she got everything settled.
 
Another guy was in his early 20s and I think he only consumed beer, no food, for a while. It looked like he aged about 50 years in one year. At first he was kinda funny because he'd open a beer can and tip it up to drink it and he could empty it in a couple of seconds. After a while it wasn't funny anymore.
 
I just went out for a walk on the Minneapolis skyway. It's the first wintry day of the year, with snow and ice. It brought all the "homeless" drunks inside. They're everywhere.

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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2012, 10:03:08 AM »
Thanks for the story Rodger
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Re: Thinking of those less fortunate. / With an addition for Dale
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2012, 01:19:18 PM »
I don't know whether to thank you or curse you Roger!

Most of us who have achieved geezer status can relate stories from our past that are bittersweet/tragic. Your story brought back memories of one of my own. Unlike you I am unable to write about it here, it is too long and brings back too much pain. Especially when I face up too my own shortcomings. I can only plead "youth and inexperience" at the time. :-\

However I recognize what a difficult thing it must be for you to share this with us and I thank you for that!
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2012, 02:19:32 AM »
I think of those less fortunate the day before thanksgiving, then I spend the next few days thinking about and caring for friends and family.

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Re: Thinking of those less fortunate. / With an addition for Dale
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2012, 03:48:38 AM »
You never know about the road untaken.  Things may have worked out for the good, or gone to dickens in a different way.  The thing to do is take care or Michelle now.


I had 2 real loves in my life, a girl some distance away where I spent most weekends.  Had I married her it would have changed my whole life, who knows if for better or worse.  She was a bit bossy, and I do not have a strong personality.  Being young and having little money was the real stopper for proposing.
The other was my wife Karen.  I never regretted marrying her.  We had to take care of her dad as he was getting old and ailing, right up to having him live with us.  I was with him when he died.  In return Karen looked after my folks when they needed it.  Looking at who else she could have married, I am glad she got me.  Not to be unhumble, but I am kind, easy going, and every day for the last 40 years have made a point to take care of this special lady, and will to my last breath.  It certainly comes back.
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Re: Thinking of those less fortunate. / With an addition for Dale
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 Thinking of Mary  « on: December 19, 2010, 06:55:59 PM »             
 
The post about giving at this time of year caused me to start thinking about Mary.  Then I breakdown and cry, thinking about how things could have been different if only something small had been different years ago....


Now that's a powerful post. We're here temporarily, and nobody is Just One Thing.


remember that, folks.
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