Man says wife died in Hungary after airlines sais his wife was too fat to fly

[Conan The Librarian]

That may be true for part of it, but it's surprising how unscientific our knowledge is about the use of energy. A lot of what we "know" today is based on some very unscientific guesses made over a hundred years ago.
 
I disagree with the thermodynamics analogy because some people, as a matter of fact, are much better at storing energy from the food they eat. This is believed to be related to evolution of people who needed to store fat or die during winter or other lean times. Google steatopygia for a graphic example of one kind.
 
We don't all use food and fat at the same levels of efficiency.

[45-70.gov]

i am one of those that has to really watch his  weight  all my life




i was 100 lbs in the 3rd grade


some just have to work harder


physics can't be denied......to build a 500 pound person you  need  500 ponds of material


if they can't go get the materials  someone has to feed them


i bet those  sick  puppies buy another drink for an alcoholic just to watch them puke
[wait  i have done that]

[dukkillr]

We don't all use food and fat at the same levels of efficiency.

No we do not.  Nor have I, nor anyone else, suggested that we do.  But that has nothing to do with what I wrote. 
 
X and Y are variables.
X = Calories put into your body
Y = Calories burned by your body
 
X > Y = You gain weight
 
There is no debating that.  Some people have much higher Ys than others, but if your body uses 1200 calories a day on average and you eat 1100 calories YOU MUST LOSE WEIGHT.  There is no independant place calories can come from.  Your body cannot spontaneously create them.  You can't get them from sunlight.  You MUST consume them.
 
Find a picture of lean times in history, lets say pictures of Confederate soldiers in 1865.  Find the fat one.  You can't, of course.  You think none of those guys had low metabolisms?  Of course they did, but the environment surrounding them kept them from consuming even that low level of calories, and presumably also required them to raise their Y value by moving around.  It is not genetics or luck that tells us there were 450lb-ers on the front lines at Appomattox Station, it's that those people were hungry...

[45-70.gov]

no  one has yet answered  if it is  posible for some one to get THIS FAT


with out help??

[guzzijohn]

Look up some pictures of 1950s school classes then compare that to kids in today schools. It is no longer uncommon to see 300#+ kids in high school. Think what they will weigh when they are 50 if they make it that long.
GuzziJohn

[lakota]

45/70 is right. There has to be an enabler for a shut-in to reach these weights but there again mental health comes into play. No mentally healthy person is going to bring in food for someone who cant walk to shovel down their throat. I used to work in a district where there was a nursing home we went to frequently. A resident there was in their late 30's weighed 576 pounds and was unable to walk. This person seemed to have a normal life before the weight spiraled out of control. I always wondered what happened to trigger such a drastic change. Consequently this person's room was always well stocked with junk food and soda pop. Someone was bringing it in to the person. Turns out it was the mother. It would be easy to say that mom didnt care about the health of this person because she supplied the garbage that contributed to the problem but I dont think thats the case. A few times I transported this person we talked and they told me about their hobbies and career before they became confined to a nursing home and there seemed to be regret and remorse and yet everytime the nursing home tried to institute some sort of weight loss program the patient stead fastly refused to participate. This person is now dead-long before thier time.
 
A normal person eats around 2000 calories per day. A normal person burns almost 1000 calories a day just through the caloried needed to carry out basal metabolism. To reach and maintain these exreme weights you are talking about eating 8-10,000 calories per day maybe more. That just isnt normal. There has to be underlying problems contributing to this. It could be mental health, all of the medications modern medicine shoves down our throats or all of the chemicals and hormones that they put on our food.
 
I feel no offense to previous posts. It is easy to just judge, and disrespect obese persons, I have caught myself doing it on many occasions. Just try to remember that there is a person in there and its hard to say what lead them to their current condition.

[45-70.gov]

so  why did this mother bring him food??


do you think a restraining order against the moom could have saved  him?


not  meaining to sound dis-respectfull....just the way  i see it
say probly  not and best he died.....he  is  second generation  mentally defective


who paid for his treatment??
if it was the tax payers  paying to save him  and the mother was poisoning him
she should be arrested  for trespassing at the least

[lakota]

so  why did this mother bring him food??

Hard to say. I never met the mother. For some reason I always pictured her as treating this person like a pre-teen even though the person was an adult.
 

do you think a restraining order against the moom could have saved him?

Absolutely not. This person refused to get out of bed. Refused to participate in any attempts to curb food intake or weight and at times even refused basic hygeine. There was definately a screw loose. Maybe there was a death wish. Who knows but that is a hell of a way to commit suicide.
 

not meaining to sound dis-respectfull....just the way i see it
say probly not and best he died.....he is second generation mentally defective

Cant say that I disagree with you. I know I would rather be dead than be bed confined a resident of a nursing home.
 

who paid for his treatment??
if it was the tax payers paying to save him and the mother was poisoning him
she should be arrested for trespassing at the least

Of course that person was a ward of the tax payers. I have no idea about the legality of barring the mother or charging her with som sort of crime but to tell you the truth most of these nursing homes dont really give a rats ass about the health of their patients beyond passing the next state inspection as long as they are getting paid.
 
 

[45-70.gov]

thanks   she was probly new he was termanal mentally just making him comfortable in his last years


i finally told my alcoholic father
if it was that important to him  to have at it
just  not in front  of  me or my kids/his grand kids
he  showed up drunk  one day...told him he was welcome back  another day
 but today he had to leave


he went down the road and killed  some one with his car
i should have called the police on  my dad....but  i didn't....
so any thing i say  about enablers  applies to me to some degree