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Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« on: November 26, 2012, 11:17:58 AM »
 The famous US Supreme Court  1954 decision of Brown v. Board of Education ruled that racially segregated schools were "unequal'  and that white children had no right to object to demands that their physical attendance in racially integrated class rooms could be compelled by blacks, in complete defiance of white rights and white personal preferences.  Thus, Brown had nothing to do with educational equality, but rather with establishing a racial caste system that elevated blacks to a superior legal status and the right to control the physical persons of white children.   Time to end this outrage and restore racial equality to white children, whose personal preferences should be equal in the eyes of the law to   black personal preferences. 


Brown vs. Bd.  of Education  (Brown) elevated blacks to a superior legal status and  lowered whites to a subordinate legal status by relegating  white children to the  legal status of livestock.  The Brown decision vested in black people a legally enforceable property right  over white people, by giving  black people the right to force the compelled, physical  attendance of unwilling white children in racially integrated schools.   Brown  did not  establish  racial or educational  equality.  In    In fact, Brown had nothing to do with education, but with vesting in black people property rights over the persons  of  white children.   Nothing in the US Constitution establishes in  any one race  the “right” to  round up the children of any other race and violate the personal preferences of them and their parents.   

The Brown decision:    

        1.            Elevated black people to superior legal status over white people, more specifically over white children by: 

                              ·        Reducing white children to the level of livestock whose physical presence would be subject to black dominion and control, pursuant to which blacks could compel the physical presence of unwilling white children in defiance of their personal preferences and personal freedom.

                       ·        Establishing black racial superiority under the law  by giving the personal preferences  of Blacks the  force of law while nullifying the personal preferences of white children and their parents.


 
2.            Made public schools inaccessible for white children by normalizing poor educational quality and legitimizing  racially motivated violence against white children.

3.             Suppressed the white birthrate by forcing whites, who  as a group limit the   number of white children to those they can financially  support, to limit the number of  children in light of the increased financial burden of private education or home school, notwithstanding that whites were forced to pay taxes to provide free public schools  for minorities that were inaccessible to whites because public schools were unsafe and  substandard.  Forced racial integration of schools unequally increased the financial burden of having children on white parents and disincentivized  having white children.

Whites are denied  equal protection under the law under the 14th Amendment because they are penalized for having large families.
By vesting in blacks racial superiority over white children, Brown violated the rights of  white children  to racial equality as well as to  good schools and safe schools.   

 Forced racial integration of schools has not improved black educational outcomes but it has harmed white educational outcomes and  unfairly subjected white children to racially motivated violence.  It is high time to restore racial  equality for white children by dismantling the  racial caste system which  relegates them to second class status

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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2012, 12:26:03 PM »
I am totally speechless or in this case writerless. :(
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2012, 01:18:28 PM »
Why is it that when people point out that some conservative ivory tower is in fact, racist, those people are oft as not people of color, but, when conservatives point to the results of progressive ideology as being racist, those people are always white?  :o
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2012, 01:57:22 PM »
integration is one of the most cruel things I have ever seen.  a lot of little kids are scared to ride a bus with kids they know. but taking a kid away from his/her friends and dumping them with kids of another color who may not want them there is sinful.
kids deserve our protection, not use them as pawns in some stupid PC game that democrats play.
a kid should go to the closest school to his/her neighborhood.
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2012, 01:59:36 PM »
integration is one of the most cruel things I have ever seen.  a lot of little kids are scared to ride a bus with kids they know. but taking a kid away from his/her friends and dumping them with kids of another color who may not want them there is sinful.
kids deserve our protection, not use them as pawns in some stupid PC game that democrats play.
a kid should go to the closest school to his/her neighborhood.

Thanks for defending the rights of white children, who have been abandoned and sacrificed during the 70  year race war that has been waged against them.

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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2012, 02:01:28 PM »
Is this why my white kids listen to hip-hop music?

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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2012, 02:42:08 PM »
Why is it that when people point out that some conservative ivory tower is in fact, racist, those people are oft as not people of color, but, when conservatives point to the results of progressive ideology as being racist, those people are always white?  :o

Tell that to this guy:
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2012, 03:00:06 PM »
Show two more. Make that three--- YouTube doesn't count.
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2012, 03:03:52 PM »
Is this why my white kids listen to hip-hop music?
that and "gangsta rap"   blacks listen to some of the most vile lyrics there is, plus what my daughter calls wiggers.  she hates what some of her former close friends have become.
too many of them have no respect for authority, life, or even their families.
but, it's the future....
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2012, 03:35:39 PM »

 The famous US Supreme Court  1954 decision of Brown v. Board of Education ruled that racially segregated schools were "unequal'  and that white children had no right to object to demands that their physical attendance in racially integrated class rooms could be compelled by blacks, in complete defiance of white rights and white personal preferences. Thus, Brown had nothing to do with educational equality, but rather with establishing a racial caste system that elevated blacks to a superior legal status and the right to control the physical persons of white children.   Time to end this outrage and restore racial equality to white children, whose personal preferences should be equal in the eyes of the law to   black personal preferences.-- --In nation that is supposedly "Christian" anyone who questions that racial segregation  is not spitting in God's face in a supposed "Christian" nation then the one/s are lying to being Christian.


Brown vs. Bd.  of Education  (Brown) elevated blacks to a superior legal status and  lowered whites to a subordinate legal status by relegating  white children to the  legal status of livestock.  ----At worst it took white children to the same level as Black children.

 The Brown decision vested in black people a legally enforceable property right  over white people, by giving  black people the right to force the compelled, physical  attendance of unwilling white children in racially integrated schools.   Brown  did not  establish  racial or educational  equality.  In 
  In fact, Brown had nothing to do with education, but with vesting in black people property rights over the persons  of  white children.   Nothing in the US Constitution establishes in  any one race  the “right” to  round up the children of any other race and violate the personal preferences of them and their parents. ----This is a bunch of clap-trap whining, based on bull-sh"",  that mimics the same standards the Democrats used to win the past election. 

Whites are denied  equal protection under the law under the 14th Amendment because they are penalized for having large families.
By vesting in blacks racial superiority over white children, Brown violated the rights of  white children  to racial equality as well as to  good schools and safe schools.   

 Forced racial integration of schools has not improved black educational outcomes but it has harmed white educational outcomes and  unfairly subjected white children to racially motivated violence.  It is high time to restore racial  equality for white children by dismantling the  racial caste system which  relegates them to second class status
----There is no doubt the courts have taken legal decisions and skewed them into liberal socialist debris that is being dumped on the rest of the country, but rhetoric like the asinine above simply gives them more power to do so.
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2012, 03:15:55 AM »
my county is 55% black, 38% white, the rest comprise about six other races.
this county is what the USA will look like in a few years.  nearly every elected position is black.
the school board fought within themselves until they lost acreditation, so whites with high-schoolers fled so their kids would be able to enter college from an accredited system..
they finally got it back with conditions, but as soon as their probation period was over, they started again and SACS has warned them again...  the Governor had to remove one of them.
the whites who are left, are old folks like myself who have to give away their homes to move.
between the economy and the school board, my home lost over 60% of it's value.
the police in my town had to put out a nation-wide call for a cop who could speak the asian languages.  we know the cops in my town, and one told me and the wife, that when they stopped an asian, he/she would just smile and nod and pretend not to understand him.  he said when he sees an asian breaking a traffic law now, he's just ignores it.
as Anna said, welcome to the cesspool.
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2012, 06:34:17 AM »
my county is 55% black, 38% white, the rest comprise about six other races.
this county is what the USA will look like in a few years.  nearly every elected position is black.
I doubt this will come to pass any time soon; black people are what, 12-13% of population? how they gonna get every elected position, just on race/numbers?
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2012, 06:36:58 AM »
All form of human association should be voluntary. Forcing associations is wrong regardless of the feel good rationale that some may use to justify it.
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2012, 06:45:41 AM »
Quote from lakota:
"All form of human association should be voluntary. Forcing associations is wrong regardless of the feel good rationale that some may use to justify it."


Association should be voluntary but for most of our country's history many blacks in many settings could not "voluntary" associate because they were not allowed in that school, cafe, hotel, etc.
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2012, 07:22:45 AM »
Quote from lakota:
"All form of human association should be voluntary. Forcing associations is wrong regardless of the feel good rationale that some may use to justify it."


Association should be voluntary but for most of our country's history many blacks in many settings could not "voluntary" associate because they were not allowed in that school, cafe, hotel, etc.
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blacks have since had every opportunity handed to them and they have not taken advantage of them.
they have a different way of life than most americans, so if you don't want to associate with them, you shouldn't have to.
the other day at walmart, there was two black women in the frozen food department yelling and laughing until you could probably hear them in sporting goods.
the local TGIfriday is now only black customers believe you can't carry on a normal conversation because of noise.
southlake mall here is about to close because the white people have to go to an adjoining county to walk safely from their cars to the mall and be able to sit down in the food court without dealing with the noise.  they are different but it's not PC to tell the truth.

http://www.ajc.com/news/business/mall-woes-gwinnett-place-changes-hands-southlake-t/nR9GK/
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2012, 07:41:06 AM »
Before Brown, public education consisted of  providing tax funded facilities and teachers.

After Brown, public education  also  included providing  an inventory of white children.

The building contractors and the teachers were paid for their work on behalf of the state.   White children, who were transformed  under the Brown decision  from  from  merely being students into instruments of the public school system,  were paid nothing for their contribution to the education of blacks. LIkewise, they were not compensated for the substandard education forced upon them and  the constant threat of racially motivated violence against them by blacks.

The Brown decision did not establish racial  equality. The Brown  decision established a racial caste system by vesting blacks with property rights over white children and imposing upon the state the duty to maintain an inventory of white children to be distributed for purposes of  forced racial integration at the pleasure and discretion of legally superior blacks. 

In the name of racial equality for white children, Brown v. Bd of Education must be repealed.


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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2012, 07:48:45 AM »
Quote from lakota:
"All form of human association should be voluntary. Forcing associations is wrong regardless of the feel good rationale that some may use to justify it."


Association should be voluntary but for most of our country's history many blacks in many settings could not "voluntary" associate because they were not allowed in that school, cafe, hotel, etc.
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 Blacks are now allowed in "that" school, cafe, hotel, etc.  A wrong done in the past does not justify a wrong done in the present.
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2012, 07:58:43 AM »
Quote from lakota:
"All form of human association should be voluntary. Forcing associations is wrong regardless of the feel good rationale that some may use to justify it."


Association should be voluntary but for most of our country's history many blacks in many settings could not "voluntary" associate because they were not allowed in that school, cafe, hotel, etc.
GuzziJohn
Here in the state of-- Minnesota Nice-- one of the biggest damned lies ever, at one time, not only were the blacks once banned to a separate section in the Twin Cities, the signs that said where they were allowed to be, also listed Jews.
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2012, 09:42:46 AM »
Show two more. Make that three--- YouTube doesn't count.

It doesn't count because it proves your "always white" statement untrue.
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2012, 09:52:52 AM »
Show two more. Make that three--- YouTube doesn't count.

you can find others it you really want to.
the reality is all children in America now get less of an education. The sacrifice on whites right or wrong has not created a better socity it has caused it to drop in all standards as compared to many other countries in the world . One time it was called the dumbing down of America .
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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2012, 09:53:29 AM »
BTW I lived it and have seen it first hand.
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2012, 11:25:37 AM »
I went to a segregated high school.
the black school had a band and a hot lunch program that we didn't.

we would "intregrate" on the week-end and play basketball with them because the black school was never locked.  then we went our separate ways and never had problems.
the problems started with the MLKs and jesse jacksons etc. and it all went downhill.

I know I may catch flak, even from Ironglow, but I think the first black was Ham, son of Noah.
Noah marked him and said he was to forever serve his fellow man.   Ham left Noah and went to Ethiopia...
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2012, 02:04:06 PM »
I went to a segregated high school.
the black school had a band and a hot lunch program that we didn't.

we would "intregrate" on the week-end and play basketball with them because the black school was never locked.  then we went our separate ways and never had problems.
the problems started with the MLKs and jesse jacksons etc. and it all went downhill.

I know I may catch flak, even from Ironglow, but I think the first black was Ham, son of Noah.
Noah marked him and said he was to forever serve his fellow man.   Ham left Noah and went to Ethiopia...

BUGEYE,

You are essentially correct.  Noah's son Ham is the source word for the Hamitic group of peoples and languages.


And, yes, Brown v Board was the worst thing to happen to this country in the 20th century.    The blacks, as a group, pretty much destroy any neighborhood they move into.  In Jacksonville, Springfield was the happening place to live in the 1950s and early 1960s.    There were clean streets, safe schools, and people with a sense of respect and dignity.    Now, you could not pay me to go to Springfield without an M1 Abrams tank; even then, I would still say no.   "White flight"occurred for a very real reason, but the PC do-gooder libbies cannot accept that fact without plaing the race card.

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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2012, 03:00:59 PM »
 I wonder if the supporters of forced integration ever stopped to consider that forcing people to associate with one another in order to achieve a great utopian society might acutally do more harm than good...by creating resentment and hatred and racial dischord where none existed before...then again maybe thats the point?
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2012, 10:21:45 PM »
Brown is morally indistinguishable from slavery:

Slavery vested whites with property rights in the persons of black slaves.

Brown  vested blacks with property rights in the persons of white children.

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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2012, 06:47:23 AM »
I wonder if the supporters of forced integration ever stopped to consider that forcing people to associate with one another in order to achieve a great utopian society might acutally do more harm than good...by creating resentment and hatred and racial dischord where none existed before...then again maybe thats the point?
No different from forcing people to live separately.

Amazing how a forum with christians can be such a chamber-pot of self-pitying bigots.

The court ruling, and more so Johnson's turning minorities into welfare whores, screwed the country but the attitudes shown here are one reason it happened.

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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2012, 07:01:53 AM »
Oh no! Are you going to call me a racist because I dont believe it is ok for the government to tell me who I have to socialize with? Get off your high moral horse before you get a nose bleed from the thin air up there.
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2012, 07:35:36 AM »
Oh no! Are you going to call me a racist because I dont believe it is ok for the government to tell me who I have to socialize with? Get off your high moral horse before you get a nose bleed from the thin air up there.
my wife and I socialize with one black couple, and once in a while one or two that I used to work with will come by and drink a cup of coffee with me.
but those blacks know how to talk plain english without yelling and not so lazy that they slur their words.
but that's about it.  blacks are different than whites in most respects, so if one culture doesn't want to mix with another culture, it's nobodys business but their own.
if Lakota is like me, he's never mistreated a black or anybody else.
so you liberals can just shut your trap about it.
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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2012, 08:11:57 AM »
I wonder if the supporters of forced integration ever stopped to consider that forcing people to associate with one another in order to achieve a great utopian society might acutally do more harm than good...by creating resentment and hatred and racial dischord where none existed before...then again maybe thats the point?
No different from forcing people to live separately.

Amazing how a forum with christians can be such a chamber-pot of self-pitying bigots.

The court ruling, and more so Johnson's turning minorities into welfare whores, screwed the country but the attitudes shown here are one reason it happened.


You missed the  whole point.   Brown is about public education and the exercise of property rights over white children.

The state had a obligation to provide public education, which meant providing facilities and teachers.   Brown imposed an additional requirement to public education:  To provide an inventory of white children to be distributed like a special kind of school supplies for the benefit of the personal preferences of the blacks and in complete disregard for the personal preferences of the whites.  Brown  vested blacks with property rights in the  physical persons of white children.  Brown gave black personal preferences the force of law and  declared white personal preferences to be null and void.   This  created a racial caste system, where legal rights are based on skin color and it vested blacks with property rights in white children.

Forcing races to be separate is the opposite of racial supremacy and the opposite of racial servitude.  Forced racial integration began with slavery, when slave traders captured blacks, violated their rights of freedom of association, and forced them into involuntary associations with whites and other races. These involuntary associations were  called slavery.

Brown imposed on a subservient race an involuntary association called "Forced racial integration", this time with blacks the superior race and white children the subservient race.

Associate with whomever you chose,  but do not deny to white children the same right you claim for yourself.
   

 

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Re: Time to Get Rid of Brown v. Bd. of Education
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2012, 09:23:55 AM »
Oh no! Are you going to call me a racist because I dont believe it is ok for the government to tell me who I have to socialize with? Get off your high moral horse before you get a nose bleed from the thin air up there.
The government is not telling you who to socialize with, so burn that straw-man.