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Rush Limbaugh
« on: November 30, 2012, 12:28:45 PM »
Last Wednesday Rush Limbaugh was saying the government needs to cut Federal Employee retirements, before they do anything else.  Well I'm a retired Air Force Msgt who would hate to lose my Air Force retirement.  And there is a lot of other reitred Military members that will agree with me.  We put our lives on the line for twenty or more years for this country.  Now someone with great influnce with the Republican Party says we should have our retirements cut.  Military personnel are Federal Employees.
 
 They have already took our health care program away, and made us take Tricare.  Now few doctors will accept Tricare, I'm told to pay up front then I can submit to Tricare for reimbersement.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2012, 12:31:47 PM »
We need to honor our commitments.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2012, 12:37:35 PM »
There are already two Federal Retirement Systems.  (CSRS and FERS, with FERS being less generous on the Pension calculations and more heavily employee funded)
There needs to be a Third one for employees who start after TODAY.  It consists of a 401K with an employer match on contributions, PLUS a pension that is employee funded and administered by a NON GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION. 

Get the pension money out of the Governments hands so that it can actually be invested and provide a return.

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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2012, 12:51:38 PM »
rush has always been pro  military and ill bet if yu get rite down to it he has no intention of cutting service mens retirement.jut call in and ask him? now useless gov waste people who do nothing and git paid waaaay more than those of us in the private sector, yeah im with him.ive never heard him do nothing but respect service men.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2012, 01:04:45 PM »
As long as the Right follows Rush, nobody's going to follow the Right.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2012, 01:11:51 PM »
As long as the Right follows Rush, nobody's going to follow the Right.
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   Sourdough;
  I greatly doubt Rush would advocate the reduction of military retirement income.  I believe that when he talks of reducing govt worker retirements, he is thinking the same as most of us..the bureaucrats and other union represented employees...some of whom pull down ridiculous sums..
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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2012, 01:44:47 PM »
If you did your time dangerous or not, you deserve your retirement. Years of being not at home, moving your family at a moments notice, long hours with a salary type pay.
They have already all but taken the importance of your vote away from you, leave what little you
have left alone.  Go for the thousands of illegals that are flowing into this country sucking it dry.
THIS is our biggest problem right now, and most of them hold no allegiance to this country.
You want to talk about flag degradation? They need to leave their flag back in the country it came
from. Because if that country is so great, why are they here ? 


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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2012, 01:51:41 PM »
As long as the Right follows Rush, nobody's going to follow the Right.
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  ...And some folks can't even tell Right from Wrong..Rush is right..the left is wrong.. ;)
 
   Sourdough;
  I greatly doubt Rush would advocate the reduction of military retirement income.  I believe that when he talks of reducing govt worker retirements, he is thinking the same as most of us..the bureaucrats and other union represented employees...some of whom pull down ridiculous sums..
when I hear about government workers, the military never comes to mind.  they are not workers, they are warriors and always deserve more than they get.
so I agree with you about Rush.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2012, 03:00:54 PM »
General Motors was 'failing' because they became a retirement org. that just happen to make and sell some cars. The 'legacy' cost were killing them, it was mathematical and predictable. The 'Gov. Employees are a similar situation; in many cases way overpaid for what they do and benefits far beyond the private sector. I agree that Rush L. was not likely even hinting at cutting the Armed Services benefits. but this insinuation will be used by the Left to further demonize a rational approach to deficit spending.
I advocate elimination of any retirement or continued health care funded by taxpayers for those in elected office.
Rank & file should be paid and beni'ed commensurate with the private sector.
Im still undecided about what to do with bureaucrats, I know what I'd like to do with a bunch of them.........
BTW CDQ, if the Right becomes more like the Left why should anybody vote for them at all, they still wont be far enough left for lefties and will have abdicated any responsibility to deserve conservatives; it just ain't logical.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2012, 03:11:23 PM »
Rush Limbaugh, Republican Leader- party failure elucidated

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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2012, 03:40:43 PM »
The problem is that workers were guaranteed a pension per contract. Regardless of the terms, the companies agreed to them and signed off. Now, decades later, their life mostly over, the workers are being told by the companies" we just cant afford this". This is no difference than Bernie Madoff or snake oil salesmen. If all the men who sat on the board of directors and the chief officers of those companies were hung, and their families deported to sub-saharan africa, perhaps the next group would be more thoughtful. I thought that the Chinese solution regarding the company that had the lead in the toys was very creative, they were marched outside and shot (as far as I heard).
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     Maybe some of you guys should just take home a tank, or a plane, or a ship- start your own charter service  :o ??? ;) 8)
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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2012, 05:08:03 PM »
Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer, no more, no less.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2012, 05:34:57 PM »
History is rife with pension funds that went belly up and the retirees who lost it all.  With the exception of our military retirees, I see no reason why government employees should be any more exempt from pension mismanagement than anyone in the private sector.  One way to avoid this situation would be for all forms of compensation to be paid at the time they are earned.  The pension part of compensation should be handled the same as 401K and IRA funds as regards taxation and distribution.
 
Rush was making a point that government in general should not get a free pass when it comes to making the cuts and adjustments that must be made to stop the out-of-control government waste.  I'm absolutely sure that he was not including the one department of our government that is essential; the country's defenders.  That doesn't mean that I believe that all military spending is justified. 
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2012, 11:51:06 PM »
Willing to bet that the Senate and congress will be the last ones to see any negative adjustment done to their pensions, but they really need to be the first ones.   
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2012, 02:23:18 AM »
It's amazing that a supposedly backward country like Chile can come up with a better system than the USA
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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2012, 02:26:47 AM »
30 year GS-6 government employee under FERS at age 62......retire today and your payments will not cover your health insurance costs.

OH!!!! You thought they have low cost health insurance too? :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ::)

PS, most government jobs have not been under the civil service retirement system for just about 30 years now.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2012, 02:26:54 AM »
General Motors is a loan company that makes a few cars.  They failed because the loan business is in the tank.  Congress and the President should get nothing when the leave office.  That would save some money.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2012, 02:31:02 AM »
To me Limbaugh isn't an entertainer at all, just a windbag.

DDZ, you hit the nail on the head about congressional pensions and the need to have the same health care plan as they have forced on the masses but this is a perfect example of what happens when the fox is in charge of the henhouse, so to speak.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2012, 02:46:30 AM »
FLUSH RUSH!!!
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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2012, 05:44:05 AM »
i enlisted in the military in 1953 and was given a $10,000.00 life insurance in 1956 it was taken away from all of us,  good old USA. i stayed in 4 years and got out.

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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2012, 05:58:49 AM »
One thing about Rush, he is a truthful character. Notice how the leftists hate him, he's gotta be good.
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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2012, 07:31:42 AM »
FLUSH RUSH!!!

Rush is a savvy self-centered businessman and political Buffoon who has managed to make millions by inciting hateful discourse .
But in all fairness most pundits are .

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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2012, 07:35:08 AM »
Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer, no more, no less.

X2.......turn him off if you don't like him.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2012, 07:51:34 AM »
military retirement is a extremely good deal, and very, very expensive.


very expensive. Play your cards right - commissioned at say 24, stay for 30,out at 54 as O-6 or at 20 as O-5... it's a great deal.
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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2012, 08:10:27 AM »
The GI getting screwed goes back a long time,ever apply for VA Disability Benefits?
 
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« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2012, 07:19:59 PM »
Last Wednesday Rush Limbaugh was saying the government needs to cut Federal Employee retirements, before they do anything else.  Well I'm a retired Air Force Msgt who would hate to lose my Air Force retirement.  And there is a lot of other reitred Military members that will agree with me.  We put our lives on the line for twenty or more years for this country.  Now someone with great influnce with the Republican Party says we should have our retirements cut.  Military personnel are Federal Employees.
 
 They have already took our health care program away, and made us take Tricare.  Now few doctors will accept Tricare, I'm told to pay up front then I can submit to Tricare for reimbersement.




LOL!Old Limblow doesn't have to worry about retirement does he?
He was talking about Government workers........Not Military. Different animal all together.


Besides! Who the Heck is He anyway?. Just a cheer leader for the RNC, like Bill Mayer or one of those Oprah types operates for the DNC.


The largest voting age group in the US are people over 65.They vote at the rate of over 60%
The retirees in the country are responsible for electing the President. Since the largest employer in the country is the Federal Government, you don't think they will mess with the retired vote do you? Theirs will be the last retirement check to bounce.
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« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2012, 03:33:33 PM »
Last Wednesday Rush Limbaugh was saying the government needs to cut Federal Employee retirements, before they do anything else.  Well I'm a retired Air Force Msgt who would hate to lose my Air Force retirement.  And there is a lot of other reitred Military members that will agree with me.  We put our lives on the line for twenty or more years for this country.  Now someone with great influnce with the Republican Party says we should have our retirements cut.  Military personnel are Federal Employees.
 
 They have already took our health care program away, and made us take Tricare.  Now few doctors will accept Tricare, I'm told to pay up front then I can submit to Tricare for reimbersement.




LOL!Old Limblow doesn't have to worry about retirement does he?
He was talking about Government workers........Not Military. Different animal all together.


Besides! Who the Heck is He anyway?. Just a cheer leader for the RNC, like Bill Mayer or one of those Oprah types operates for the DNC.


The largest voting age group in the US are people over 65.They vote at the rate of over 60%
The retirees in the country are responsible for electing the President. Since the largest employer in the country is the Federal Government, you don't think they will mess with the retired vote do you? Theirs will be the last retirement check to bounce.
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  Some  demographics we can be assured of..........  he was preferred by East and Left coasts, blacks and the urban areas in between coasts..
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Re: Rush Limbaugh
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2012, 04:16:11 PM »
The AARP link below tallies the election results instead of being a pre-election prognosis.
Overall seniors voted for Romney. In every swing state, except Florida, they voted for Obama so they may be responsible for his win.
 
http://www.aarp.org/politics-society/government-elections/info-11-2012/election-2012-results.html
 

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« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2012, 11:47:01 PM »
  Again; It was also the urban areas of Florida which went leftward..as usual..
 
 
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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2012, 04:59:25 AM »
Now why would urban areas do that?
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