Demand Bow Control NOW!!!!!!!

[Cuts Crooked]

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/30/15574250-bow-and-arrow-type-attack-leaves-3-dead-in-casper-wyo-including-2-in-college-classroom-officials-say?lite   By M. Alex Johnson, NBC News Updated at 7:11 p.m. ET: A man killed a woman in Casper, Wyo., on Friday and then headed to the campus of Casper College, where he killed a man in front of students during a science class before killing himself, police said.
       The man used "an edged weapon" — earlier described by police, college officials and eyewitnesses as a "bow and arrow-type" weapon — in all three killings, including his own suicide, Casper Police Chief Chris Walsh said.
Walsh wouldn't identify any of the victims, including the killer, pending notification of their families. College officials said the man who was targeted in the classroom was a faculty member, whom they also wouldn't immediately identify.
 
   Walsh did say that all three victims were adults who knew one another and that the killer wasn't a current student at the college. The incident didn't appear college-related, he said. The man appeared to have acted alone. "There is no one at large, and there is no threat of violence," Walsh said Wednesday afternoon.
Police found the two men on the third floor of the community college's physical science center, where they had been called to investigate a "traumatic injury" at about 9 a.m. (11 a.m. ET), Walsh said. Shortly after they arrived, they received a similar call involving an address about two miles from campus, where they found the dead woman.
All told, 33 local, state and federal officers responded at the campus, which was locked down temporarily while police checked for other suspects, authorities said. An alert on the community college's website said that all classes and activities had been canceled and that counselors were being provided for the colleges faculty, students and staff.

Casper College is a two-year community college of 4,400 students in Wyoming's second-largest city.
The school has a small security team on campus, but they're not armed. 
"It's such a small town that Casper police is very close," Fujita said.

[Anna]

Cuts, we need to ban swords and knives also.                                                                                Ice picks.                                                                                                                                     Nail guns.
Sling shots.
BB guns.
Rocks.
Nail clippers.
Rope.
Toothbrush shanks.
Cars.
Beer bottles.
Sticks.
Bats.
Oh forget it! Lets just do like England where you are guilty of everything ! 

[lakota]

Dont give them any ideas. They will ban high capacity quivers, carbon assault arrows, broadheads and stablizer bushings. Maybe even fast flight strings.

[joeinwv]

In the UK you cannot have a locking pocket knife. Spyderco and Leatherman make special editions without locks for that market.

[twoshooter]

OK, I get the sarcasm. I appreciate it, and even agree.

I have a serious question to bend this a little-   what are the CCW implications- of "edged weapons"? As far as I know, only firearms are covered under the CCW permits, is that correct??

[lakota]

My permit says "License to carry a concealed handgun" at the top so I doubt it would cover me carrying a KA BAR knife but I dont think I will get any grief for the Barlow knife I carry with me every where.

[lakota]

Cuts, we need to ban swords and knives also.                                                                                Ice picks.                                                                                                                                     Nail guns.
Sling shots.
BB guns.
Rocks.
Nail clippers.
Rope.
Toothbrush shanks.
Cars.
Beer bottles.
Sticks.
Bats.
Oh forget it! Lets just do like England where you are guilty of everything !

Maybe the government should just mandate that all opposable thumbs be amputated at birth that way no one will be able to grasp anything to use as a weapon and everyone will be safe and sound.

[Cuts Crooked]

OK, I get the sarcasm. I appreciate it, and even agree.

I have a serious question to bend this a little-   what are the CCW implications- of "edged weapons"? As far as I know, only firearms are covered under the CCW permits, is that correct??

Depends on where yer at I reckon.......mine is a "permit to carry weapons"

[boomerralph]

In Florida, the CCW Permit DOES include edged weapons, as well as anything else concealable

[Anna]

Here in NM you can have anything, its only the Federal laws that apply.

[Old Syko]

I never got into the bow and arrow thing much.  Couldn't find a loincloth I was comfortable with in public.    Besides, If old Sam Colt had been an Indian........well you get the idea.

[Anna]

I never got into the bow and arrow thing much.  Couldn't find a loincloth I was comfortable with in public.    Besides, If old Sam Colt had been an Indian........well you get the idea.

Lol, it would have surely resembled the revolving fully automatic cross bow as seen in the movie     Van Helsing. It had unlimited fire power and you never saw the string move it was so fast. 
Just imagine if John Browning had of been an American Indian ? A belt fed version of the above
mentioned that would have put the Gatling gun to shame. 

[Empty Quiver]

I don't quite understand why the local Police are / were so loathe to say bow or crossbow was used. Some sort of "edged weapon" , either it's an arrow or it ain't. Most of the time I was listening to, er, uh, umm NPR so maybe that was the main source of confusion. Since it wasn't a gun they had no idea how to denigrate the weapon system, (We all know coyboys are bad and indians are good nowadays right?) so defered to edged weapon until they figured out how to handle a non gun, shooting. 

[BUGEYE]

An elderly lady in my neighborhood tried to kill her ex-husband with a hammer a few years ago.
so add hammers to the list.

[Anna]

I don't quite understand why the local Police are / were so loathe to say bow or crossbow was used. Some sort of "edged weapon" , either it's an arrow or it ain't. Most of the time I was listening to, er, uh, umm NPR so maybe that was the main source of confusion. Since it wasn't a gun they had no idea how to denigrate the weapon system, (We all know coyboys are bad and indians are good nowadays right?) so defered to edged weapon until they figured out how to handle a non gun, shooting.

The MSM is filled with idiots, for one thing if its a crossbow it isn't an arrow. It's called a bolt, so what
are they in their infinate wisdom going to do ? Make bolts illegal to own ? That will make for some
very useless nuts and washers . 

[lakota]

As I said in a previous post-just ban opposable thumbs and we can all live in a violence free Utopian society.
 
One thing about this situation confuses me: this was a mass killing at a college. Why didnt it recieve the same frantic media attention it would have got if he had used a gun to kill these 3 people at a college? Dead is dead wether a gun killed them or a bow and arrow killed them. Why is it less of a tragedy because no gun was involved? GBO is the only place where I have heard of this murder spree. Granted I dont watch a lot of TV bu somehow I think the media would be shouting it from the roof tops if this whack job had used a gun.

[Ranch13]

Pretty tragic deal, kid killed his Dad, his dad's lady friend and his self.
http://trib.com/news/local/police-id-victims-suspect-in-casper-college-slayings/article_7e34f622-3be2-11e2-a57e-001a4bcf887a.html

[Empty Quiver]

I don't quite understand why the local Police are / were so loathe to say bow or crossbow was used. Some sort of "edged weapon" , either it's an arrow or it ain't. Most of the time I was listening to, er, uh, umm NPR so maybe that was the main source of confusion. Since it wasn't a gun they had no idea how to denigrate the weapon system, (We all know coyboys are bad and indians are good nowadays right?) so defered to edged weapon until they figured out how to handle a non gun, shooting.

The MSM is filled with idiots, for one thing if its a crossbow it isn't an arrow. It's called a bolt, so what
are they in their infinate wisdom going to do ? Make bolts illegal to own ? That will make for some
very useless nuts and washers . 

I see what you did there.
 
Bolts, arrows, clips, magazines, it's all so confusing. Could we just go back to rocks and clubs?

[gstanfield]

I don't quite understand why the local Police are / were so loathe to say bow or crossbow was used. Some sort of "edged weapon" , either it's an arrow or it ain't. Most of the time I was listening to, er, uh, umm NPR so maybe that was the main source of confusion. Since it wasn't a gun they had no idea how to denigrate the weapon system, (We all know coyboys are bad and indians are good nowadays right?) so defered to edged weapon until they figured out how to handle a non gun, shooting.

The hesitation to define the weapon came from the complexity of the scene. There was a crossbow used to shoot in the head, a knife also used one two of the victims, plus the assailant used the knife to end his own life. When you roll up on a scene with blood everywhere and cut wounds galore you take a few minutes to get your facts straight instead of just assuming you know what happened. I know several of the cops on the scene that day (I work the next county over) and with a media that is biased against law enforcement you always want to make dang sure you have your facts 100% before you commit to a statement. In the later releases the did get more specific as to what happened.

[Empty Quiver]

I don't quite understand why the local Police are / were so loathe to say bow or crossbow was used. Some sort of "edged weapon" , either it's an arrow or it ain't. Most of the time I was listening to, er, uh, umm NPR so maybe that was the main source of confusion. Since it wasn't a gun they had no idea how to denigrate the weapon system, (We all know coyboys are bad and indians are good nowadays right?) so defered to edged weapon until they figured out how to handle a non gun, shooting.

The hesitation to define the weapon came from the complexity of the scene. There was a crossbow used to shoot in the head, a knife also used one two of the victims, plus the assailant used the knife to end his own life. When you roll up on a scene with blood everywhere and cut wounds galore you take a few minutes to get your facts straight instead of just assuming you know what happened. I know several of the cops on the scene that day (I work the next county over) and with a media that is biased against law enforcement you always want to make dang sure you have your facts 100% before you commit to a statement. In the later releases the did get more specific as to what happened.

I can certainly understand a department having a CYA approach. A family tragedy spread all over town.

[Ranch13]

Eyewitness account of the killing of the professor http://k2radio.com/eyewitness-recounts-events-inside-jim-krumms-classroom-exclusive-interview/

[Cuts Crooked]

Ok it wasn't a crossbow........I thought I had read that fact earlier, in another article, but I wasn't sure.

Still......it's time to add string to list of things needing to be banned! Bows won't work without string!

[Anna]

Ok it wasn't a crossbow........I thought I had read that fact earlier, in another article, but I wasn't sure.

Still......it's time to add string to list of things needing to be banned! Bows won't work without string!

I'm with you Cuts, I have heard and read so many variants to this story from the web to the MSM
you have to grow wings to stay on top of it. It all reminds me of when the Glock pistols first came out.
The media was in an uproar about plastic guns getting on airliners.
Or when the PS90 came out the ammo it shot was a cop killer. When in fact we in the civilian market
could only get a dumbed down version of that ammo where a 22 mag was a lot better round.
And the 22 mag was a 10th of the price of that high dollar FNH stuff.