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AZ principal punishes fighting boys by making them hold hands.
« on: November 30, 2012, 05:18:02 PM »
 Arizona prncipal punishes high school boys with public hand-holding   Arizona principal punishes high school boys with public hand-holding Arizona principal punishes high school boys with public hand-holding  by ABC News  WHAS11.com Posted on November 30, 2012 at 8:28 PM
Updated today at 9:00 PM       MESA, Ariz. (ABC NEWS) -- An Arizona school district has condemned the in-school discipline at one of its high schools after two boys were forced to hold hands in front of their classmates as a punishment for fighting.
Earlier this week, the two students at Westwood High School in Mesa, Ariz., who have not been named, were faced with the prospect of either suspension from school, or sitting in chairs in the high school’s courtyard and holding hands for 15 minutes during a lunch period. They opted for the latter.
“Kids were laughing at them and calling them names, asking, ‘Are you gay?’” student Brittney Smyers told ABC affiliate KNXV.
Teens at the high school inevitably posted photos of the two, who spent the time shielding their faces with their heads in their hands, to social media sites.
On the Facebook posting, users commented that the public punishment is not appropriate, as it positions the teens as targets for taunting and name-calling. Others suggested the punishment was anti-gay, as it implies two males holding hands is embarrassing.
 
Helen Hollands, director of communication and marketing for Mesa Public Schools, told ABCNews.com that the school’s principal, Tim Richard, who is in his first year at Westwood, had the idea.
“He’s done some great things there,” she said. “He’s focused highly on maintaining a standard where [ideally] no students are failing a class.”
Calls placed to Richard by ABC News were not returned.
Once the school district got wind of Richard’s unique punishment, it issued a statement saying it doesn’t condone what the school did.
“Mesa Public Schools is dedicated to maintaining a safe and supportive learning environment. The district has guidelines for appropriate student discipline and our site administrators have the authority to impose consequences within our policies and regulations,” the statement said.
“The district does not condone the choice of in-school discipline given these students, regardless of their acceptance or willingness to participate. District leadership will address this matter with the school principal and review district protocol regarding student discipline with all administrators.”
Hollands said that the district is aware that many perceived the discipline as bullying and biased.
“The district is looking at how the actions have been perceived,” she said. “That’s a very important piece to know.”

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Re: AZ principal punishes fighting boys by making them hold hands.
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2012, 02:55:01 AM »
Well  there's two more lost to Satan's deviant life style. Whether he knows it or not, whether he's gay or not, the principle just borrowed a page from the gay recruiter's handbook! >:( >:( >:(
It only takes a second, the one lost soul is already wearing pink!  :'( :'( :'(

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Re: AZ principal punishes fighting boys by making them hold hands.
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2012, 05:44:33 AM »
I like it. Perhaps those two and other potential hotheads will reflect on their behavior as not to become laughing stocks. Better than a suspension. I doubt it leads to them becoming lovers.
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2012, 06:25:11 AM »
I think it's funny. ;D
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2012, 07:08:10 AM »
When I was in grade school Mr Fischer our principal would take the two combatants outside and make them put on these huge boxing gloves and have at it. When they stepped back and said they had enough he would make them go at it again. He would make them wear the gloves and box each other for about an hour. Fights became fewer and fewer.

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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2012, 01:51:57 PM »
Yep, similar punishment at my grade school.  The two combatants would be hauled off to the gym strapped into big boxing gloves and told to have at it until one or both had their fill.   

We are raising a nation of weenies.   IMO it's crap like the above, PC sports where they don't keep score and there are no winners or losers.  And not recognizing or publicly awarding  high achievers in school because it would make the 'dummies' feel bad about themselves that leads to screwed up malcontents like the knit whit who shot up the theater in Colorado.

Seems there were a lot fewer kids growing up screwed up in the head when we were allowed to smack them off side the head and tell them to "straighten out and fly right"  when they needed it. 
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Re: AZ principal punishes fighting boys by making them hold hands.
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2012, 01:56:26 AM »
Well guys, you can't bust their little spoiled butts anymore, the parents don't want their little darlings butts to be red. Since paddling ain't allowed any more, and the boxing gloves only work when BOTH combatants actually WANT to fight (some were defending themselves against bullies and didn't want to fight in the first place, and were usually smaller), why not just FINE THE PARENTS for student misbehavior.
As far as making them hold hands, turning these two in the picture into queers, I would certainly call that a pretty wild stretch of the imagination, and as far as the "pink shirt" being an indicator, I find that as silly as well.
Given the present state of affairs in public schools it might not have been such a bad idea. The two boys don't look that happy, and might think again about disrupting the school, but even on the forum here, folks are complainin about a situation they didn't have to deal with in the real world of public schools TODAY, not in "yesteryear".
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2012, 04:05:41 AM »
Yes Dee, I agree about how much things have changed in school. I don't know what I would have done if I was the principal. It's probably good I am not in the education system becuase I would be in jail. I think the breakdown of the family unit and lack of positive male role models is degrading our society.
 
Our principal wasn't mean but he had our respect. We weren't afraid of him becuase he could use the paddle, we were more afraid of becoming a disappointment. I think that speaks of how far things have changed.

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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2012, 04:37:15 AM »
Yes Dee, I agree about how much things have changed in school. I don't know what I would have done if I was the principal. It's probably good I am not in the education system becuase I would be in jail. I think the breakdown of the family unit and lack of positive male role models is degrading our society.
 
Our principal wasn't mean but he had our respect. We weren't afraid of him becuase he could use the paddle, we were more afraid of becoming a disappointment. I think that speaks of how far things have changed.
this is true, there is no "shame" anymore.   now a lot of kids like to brag about the length of their rap-sheet.
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Re: AZ principal punishes fighting boys by making them hold hands.
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2012, 08:10:59 AM »
Well  there's two more lost to Satan's deviant life style. Whether he knows it or not, whether he's gay or not, the principle just borrowed a page from the gay recruiter's handbook! >:( >:( >:(
It only takes a second, the one lost soul is already wearing pink!  :'( :'( :'(
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Funny thing is that the guys that I've known since elementary school, with whom I would often have brutal, fist to fist confrontations, ended up becoming my closest and life long friends. Couple of them are almost more "BROTHER" to me than my own blood brother.


I don't engage in the lifestyle or condone it, but I really don't see where homophobia is warranted here at all, though. Perhaps some subconscious uncertainties, hmmm?

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Re: AZ principal punishes fighting boys by making them hold hands.
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2012, 08:28:48 AM »
Yep, similar punishment at my grade school.  The two combatants would be hauled off to the gym strapped into big boxing gloves and told to have at it until one or both had their fill.   

We are raising a nation of weenies.   IMO it's crap like the above, PC sports where they don't keep score and there are no winners or losers.  And not recognizing or publicly awarding  high achievers in school because it would make the 'dummies' feel bad about themselves that leads to screwed up malcontents like the knit whit who shot up the theater in Colorado.

Seems there were a lot fewer kids growing up screwed up in the head when we were allowed to smack them off side the head and tell them to "straighten out and fly right"  when they needed it.
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I also think that kids in the past were just smarter and better at hiding their evil ways from their parents because the didn't have their creative process numbed by the technology of today.

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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2012, 08:35:01 AM »
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Well  there's two more lost to Satan's deviant life style. Whether he knows it or not, whether he's gay or not, the principle just borrowed a page from the gay recruiter's handbook!   
It only takes a second, the one lost soul is already wearing pink!
   


Well I guess I just see it a little different.

Both boys accepted the punishment for their actions. To me this is an indication of remorse for their actions. By having remorse for their actions they must have a sense of right and wrong. By having an sense of right and wrong they are more likely to learn from this incident. If they learn a little humility and integrity from this then they are better for it.

I do not think that this will make them gay or that pink on a guy is gay and to state such is a sign of deeper issues, let go of the hate.

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Re: AZ principal punishes fighting boys by making them hold hands.
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2012, 12:27:34 PM »
Wearing pink does not make one a homosexual. My golf partner and I golf with pink balls and his car has a pink ribbon on the antenna. My car has a pink ribbon along with a yellow ribbon.
Pink is shown for supporting the fight against breast cancer, yellow is remembering our troops and wanting them to return home safely.

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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2012, 04:30:22 PM »
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Both boys accepted the punishment for their actions. To me this is an indication of remorse for their actions. By having remorse for their actions they must have a sense of right and wrong. By having an sense of right and wrong they are more likely to learn from this incident. If they learn a little humility and integrity from this then they are better for it.

I do not think that this will make them gay or that pink on a guy is gay and to state such is a sign of deeper issues, let go of the hate.

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