Author Topic: Court removes judge from ft hood murderers case, threw out shaving order.  (Read 572 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Judge removed in Fort Hood shooting rampage case  Published December 03, 2012
Associated Press    FORT HOOD, Texas –  The military's highest court ousted the judge in the Fort Hood shooting case Monday and threw out his order to have the suspect's beard forcibly shaved before his court-martial.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces ruled that Col. Gregory Gross didn't appear impartial while presiding over the case of Maj. Nidal Hasan, who faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings on the Texas Army post that killed 13 people and wounded more than two dozen others.
 
But the court said it was not ruling on whether the judge's order violated Hasan's religious rights. Hasan has argued that his beard is a requirement of his Muslim faith, although facial hair violates Army regulations.
 
"Should the next military judge find it necessary to address (Hasan's) beard, such issues should be addressed and litigated anew," judges wrote in the ruling.
Hasan appealed after Gross ordered that he must be clean-shaven or be forcibly shaved before his court-martial, a military trial.
The court-martial had been set to begin three months ago, but it remains on hold pending the appeals.
 
An Army appeals court had upheld the shaving requirement in October.
But on Monday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces said the command, not the judge, was responsible for enforcing grooming standards. The ruling said that was one example of how Gross appeared impartial in the case.
Gross had repeatedly said Hasan's beard was a disruption to the court proceedings, but the military appeals court ruled that there was insufficient evidence to show that his beard interfered with the hearings.
Gross found Hasan in contempt of cour
t at six previous pretrial hearings because he was not clean-shaven, then sent him to a nearby trailer to watch the proceedings on a closed-circuit television.
At a June hearing, lead defense attorney Lt. Col. Kris Poppe said the judge showed a bias against Hasan when he asked defense attorneys to clean up a court restroom after Gross found a medical waste bag, adult diaper and what appeared to be feces on the floor after a previous hearing. Hasan, who is paralyzed from the waist down after being shot by police the day of the shootings, has to wear adult diapers -- but the mess in the restroom that day was mud from a guard's boots, Poppe said.
 
"In light of these rulings, and the military judge's accusations regarding the latrine, it could reasonably appear to an objective observer that the military judge had allowed the proceedings to become a duel of wills between himself and (Hasan) rather than an adjudication of the serious offenses with which (Hasan) is charged," judges wrote in the ruling.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/03/judge-removed-in-fort-hood-shooting-rampage-case/?test=latestnews#ixzz2E2jgmFlS
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline yellowtail3

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5664
  • Gender: Male
  • Oh father of the four winds, fill my sails!
sounds like a prudent move.


It'll disappoint those hoping to see Hasan brutalized a bit...
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
I smell husseins hand in this. Protecting his brother hasans right to flaunt our laws in favor of sharia and not shaving. Hasan should have been dirt years ago. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline Conan The Librarian

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4494
  • McDonalds. Blecch!
It makes him more likely to be found guilty, put in a place where he is likely to be beaten up by the other inmates, and made very uncomfortable for the duration of his sentence.

Offline yellowtail3

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5664
  • Gender: Male
  • Oh father of the four winds, fill my sails!
sniff... I smell sumthin'... somebody needs to wash the hatred from their hands. Good news is, it's easier to remove than blood!



Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
CONAN. Hasan will never be around other inmates, imam obama will see to that. He will be pampered and waste even more $ millions making sure his right to murder Americans is not violated. No reason for that thing to live, he is of NO VALUE to any civilized society.
He should be forcibly shaved and tried under military law, not husseins sharia. Shaved, found guilty then executed as quickly as possible. He is a hero to his you know what friends. He is a prime example of what I've said for many years. No such critter as an American muslim, their cult will always come first. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline lakota

  • Trade Count: (26)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3472
  • Gender: Male
Would you defend Sgt Bales' right to wear a beard as vigorously as you have defended Hasan's  right to wear one?
Hi NSA! Can you see how many fingers I am holding up?

Offline finisher

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • A Real Regular
  • *****
  • Posts: 522
sounds like a prudent move.


It'll disappoint those hoping to see Hasan brutalized a bit...
***********
Yep. In light of the serious charges already facing Hasan, it seems a bit petty for a judge to engage in a pissing contest over facial hair.

Offline Sourdough

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8150
  • Gender: Male
That's what we get when we don't vote for the non muslim for president.
Where is old Joe when we really need him?  Alaska Independence    Calling Illegal Immigrants "Undocumented Aliens" is like calling Drug Dealers "Unlicensed Pharmacists"
What Is A Veteran?
A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve -- is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life.' That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today who no longer understand that fact.

Offline Ex 49'er

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (8)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1975
  • Gender: Male
He's still in the military. Shave him with a bayonet and don't worry about any nicks!
When you're walking on eggs; don't hop!!

Offline Shu

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1484
Re: Court removes judge from ft hood murderers case, threw out shaving order.
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2012, 01:45:11 AM »
They should just get on with the trial. Enough delaying tactics. It is a part of war to cause your enemy to spend more and more money. This trial is costing a fortune. Let him come to court wearing a beard, it isn't going to change the outcome. There is just too much physical evidence for him to go free.

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Re: Court removes judge from ft hood murderers case, threw out shaving order.
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2012, 10:52:35 AM »
He's still in the military. Shave him with a bayonet and don't worry about any nicks!

 
EX 49er. Agreed Sir. OUR laws are the only ones that should apply. It made him proud to murder Americans but he'd be ashamed to shave?? Shave him, try him, hang him with a pigskin rope. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline Cuts Crooked

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3325
  • Gender: Male
Re: Court removes judge from ft hood murderers case, threw out shaving order.
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2012, 01:30:27 PM »
Oh, fer cryin' out loud! Try him and get it over with......... so they can execute him already! ::)
Smokeless is only a passing fad!

"The liar who charms and disarms and wreaths himself in artifice is too agreeable to be called a demon. So we adopt the word "candidate"." Brooke McEldowney

"When a dog has bitten ten kids I have trouble believing he would make a good childs companion just because he now claims he is a good dog and doesn't bite. How's that for a "parable"?"....ME

Offline -Shaggy-

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 569
Re: Court removes judge from ft hood murderers case, threw out shaving order.
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2012, 03:26:40 PM »
Drop all charges, announce the date and location of his release, and set him out on the street.
 
Interesting to see how long he would last.

Offline Sourdough

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8150
  • Gender: Male
Re: Court removes judge from ft hood murderers case, threw out shaving order.
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2012, 06:33:38 PM »
He should have been shaved already.  And the trial done as well.
Where is old Joe when we really need him?  Alaska Independence    Calling Illegal Immigrants "Undocumented Aliens" is like calling Drug Dealers "Unlicensed Pharmacists"
What Is A Veteran?
A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve -- is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life.' That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today who no longer understand that fact.

Offline Tommyt

  • Trade Count: (51)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3051
  • Gender: Male
Re: Court removes judge from ft hood murderers case, threw out shaving order.
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2012, 01:46:23 AM »
Agree
 
 get it over already
 
 
He should have been shaved already.  And the trial done as well.

Offline SHOOTALL

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23836
Re: Court removes judge from ft hood murderers case, threw out shaving order.
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2012, 02:05:56 AM »
Had military personel been allowed their right of self protection instead of being treated like untrust worthy and only armed as needed this would most likely not be an issue !
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Re: Court removes judge from ft hood murderers case, threw out shaving order.
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2012, 09:57:08 AM »
Had military personel been allowed their right of self protection instead of being treated like untrust worthy and only armed as needed this would most likely not be an issue !

 
SHOOTALL. True Sir, who would have thought that a United States military base would be such a soft target?? That worthless pediprophet worshiper should have been dirt years ago. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline SHOOTALL

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23836
Re: Court removes judge from ft hood murderers case, threw out shaving order.
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2012, 10:11:20 AM »
I'm waiting for someone to say they should not have to be armed at home you don't always go armed at home , home being on a base in the US . to which I would counter - that didn't work out so well . And I do go armed at home. Fact of the matter is I would be inclined to fight to defend my  home than any other place.
If ya can see it ya can hit it !