What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?

[BAGTIC]

Liberals don't want to fix anything, they want America to crash. Our problem is the Federal government, how elections are funded, and the Left.  Start prosecuting for Treason. Another thing one trillion is approximately 33,000 years worth of seconds, how exactly did we spend even one trillion? Why? I say seccede from the corruption. This is a bit better than anarchy but that is also an option.

If a State secedes the U.S.A. will require it to pay off its share of the national debt. I doubt it will accept I.O.U.'s. Do you have it?
Also remember that all of you States that get more from the Federal government than you pay in will not be getting it anymore. Everyone that works for the USA will be unemployed including military and military associated. For the landlocked States it might be a little difficult shipping things by sea or for that matter leaving home by air as that would require flying over USA airspace and I doubt it would be very eager to grant a route easement.

[nw_hunter]

"First.....we hang all the lawyers!"

+1 , we all seem to not include tort reform. If you look lawyers have caused most of our problems
from getting elected to office, to finding ways to get around the Constitution.
No one has included real border control, this is just another reason that welfair has ballooned like
it has. If you look at any problem we now have, you will find a lawyer in there somewhere that
caused it. Thomas Jefferson a lawyer warned us about this, he wanted it to where lawyers couldn't
run for any office.

I agree with Jefferson! There are 56 Lawyers in the US Senate (62%. 37% of the House of Reps. are lawyers.Do we need lawyers? You bet! We need them defending or prosecuting the laws on the books.Do we need them running for office? I agree with Jefferson the Lawyer.

[Gary G]

Liberals don't want to fix anything, they want America to crash. Our problem is the Federal government, how elections are funded, and the Left.  Start prosecuting for Treason. Another thing one trillion is approximately 33,000 years worth of seconds, how exactly did we spend even one trillion? Why? I say seccede from the corruption. This is a bit better than anarchy but that is also an option.

If a State secedes the U.S.A. will require it to pay off its share of the national debt. I doubt it will accept I.O.U.'s. Do you have it?
Also remember that all of you States that get more from the Federal government than you pay in will not be getting it anymore. Everyone that works for the USA will be unemployed including military and military associated. For the landlocked States it might be a little difficult shipping things by sea or for that matter leaving home by air as that would require flying over USA airspace and I doubt it would be very eager to grant a route easement.

Most states are required by state law to balance their budgets. Why would they be required to pay a part of another entities debt if they had nothing to do with it? It would be like requiring one to pay his neighbors debt. They neighbor may desire that, but it would not be likely.


["Also remember that all of you States that get more from the Federal government than you pay in will not be getting it anymore."]

They will not be sending it anymore.

["Everyone that works for the USA will be unemployed including military and military associated."]
To be successful, a nation must produce more than they consume. Those you speak of are consumers only.

For the landlocked States it might be a little difficult shipping things by sea or for that matter leaving home by air as that would require flying over USA airspace and I doubt it would be very eager to grant a route easement."]
What idiots would turn down profitable business?

[DDZ]

We can write down all the suggestions for a better America we want, but it won't do a lick of good. The suggestions have to be made at the voting booth. What America was is over, because we have lost the traditional American virtues that had made this country strong. Like God, family, liberty, Hard work, free enterprise, and initiative to moral greatness. None of these virtues inspire a majority of the electorate anymore.
America is saturated with sloth, greed, envy, and materialistic excess. It has lost its moral foundation. Half of the population doesn't care about high taxes, promoting business, or creating jobs. Nor do they care that the money for their free stuff is being borrowed from their children, and from the Chinese.
Some suggestions written above are very good suggestions, but they will never be implemented, as long as the majority keeps voting in Marxists, socialists, communists, progressives, etc... What America votes for is what America is.     

[lgm270]

... What America votes for is what America is.   

Very well said.

[ChungDoQuan]

NOTHING in the Constitution allows for secession--- they made sure of that when they got rid of the Articles of Confederation. It's like the Mafia or the CIA--- you can't just quit.

To fix America:
-- Re-regulate Banking and Wall Street.
-- Tax the upper 2%, starting with eliminating the Bush cuts for them, and make the sliding scale go to a 10% increase for the top 1%
--Instate 1% tax on every Wall Street transaction.
-- Make the military, secular education, and universal health care the exclusive province of the federal government.
-- Simplify the tax laws and make it illegal to pass any law that you have to be a lawyer to interpret.
-- Use an a priori rule for criminal cases--- if you are guilty of committing a crime, you lose your rights beginning at the time you started the crime. In other words, criminals could not sue victims.

That would be a start.

[45-70.gov]

some people have watched that stupid cartoon   a few too many times

[rickt300]

Liberals don't want to fix anything, they want America to crash. Our problem is the Federal government, how elections are funded, and the Left.  Start prosecuting for Treason. Another thing one trillion is approximately 33,000 years worth of seconds, how exactly did we spend even one trillion? Why? I say seccede from the corruption. This is a bit better than anarchy but that is also an option.

If a State secedes the U.S.A. will require it to pay off its share of the national debt. I doubt it will accept I.O.U.'s. Do you have it?
Also remember that all of you States that get more from the Federal government than you pay in will not be getting it anymore. Everyone that works for the USA will be unemployed including military and military associated. For the landlocked States it might be a little difficult shipping things by sea or for that matter leaving home by air as that would require flying over USA airspace and I doubt it would be very eager to grant a route easement.

Share of the "federal" debt? Who exactly caused the debt problem? I have been paying my taxes for more than 40 years so I feel I have been paying my "share". Why, if a group of idiot politicians spends more money than the huge amount that we the people send to them should "we" be held responsible?

[rickt300]

NOTHING in the Constitution allows for secession--- they made sure of that when they got rid of the Articles of Confederation. It's like the Mafia or the CIA--- you can't just quit.

To fix America:
-- Re-regulate Banking and Wall Street.
Government handled this very poorly with the Dodd Franks act and the Community Reinvestment act.

-- Tax the upper 2%, starting with eliminating the Bush cuts for them, and make the sliding scale go to a 10% increase for the top 1%
And this will pay for government for less than 2 weeks. Hooray!
--Instate 1% tax on every Wall Street transaction.
I already pay a fee for stock transactions.

-- Make the military, secular education, and universal health care the exclusive province of the federal government.
What? Communism, nice try CDQ.
-- Simplify the tax laws and make it illegal to pass any law that you have to be a lawyer to interpret.
This will never happen, the Trial lawyers assosiation now has a hit man looking for you.

-- Use an a priori rule for criminal cases--- if you are guilty of committing a crime, you lose your rights beginning at the time you started the crime. In other words, criminals could not sue victims.

?.
That would be a start.
Of the end for freedom in this country.

[scootrd]

........ how exactly did we spend even one trillion? Why?......

HMM lets see ........................

Financed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan on Americas credit card along with Bush tax cuts account for just about 50% of the deficit The stimulus law and short term financial rescues account for about 10 percent .

Our debt could be cut nearly in half by 2022 by simply letting Bush tax cuts expire of which 82% of the tax cuts go directly to Millionaires. 18% goes to all others.

The Govt is taking in less Tax Revenue , this along with the increased spending are the two factors that have combined to produce a deficit that is the highest since WWII. Corporations contributed only 8.9% in tax revenue in 2011.

If we misdiagnose the problem, we will never cure the disease.

Semper Fi

[BUGEYE]

What America votes for is what America is.   

If obama has his way, the november election may be the last one we ever see.

[45-70.gov]

........ how exactly did we spend even one trillion? Why?......

HMM lets see ........................

Financed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan on Americas credit card along with Bush tax cuts account for just about 50% of the deficit The stimulus law and short term financial rescues account for about 10 percent .

Our debt could be cut nearly in half by 2022 by simply letting Bush tax cuts expire of which 82% of the tax cuts go directly to Millionaires. 18% goes to all others.

The Govt is taking in less Tax Revenue , this along with the increased spending are the two factors that have combined to produce a deficit that is the highest since WWII. Corporations contributed only 8.9% in tax revenue in 2011.

If we misdiagnose the problem, we will never cure the disease.

Semper Fi

what is the real difference between pay roll tax  and individual income tax?


its  all income tax  over 80%


corporate money  is nothing more than stability or investment money....untill
untill  some one recieves it as   ''income''...then  it gets taxed again


man A  delivers wigits on a bicycle.....................................gets $500 a week
man B delivers wigits  in a truck with insurance,,,,,,,,,,,....gets $500 a week


man B can't deduct the truck  and gas cost??
if not  he needs to stay on a bike....truck mechanic gets laid off....stops paying taxes
so  corparate deductions are needed is my point

[DDZ]

........ how exactly did we spend even one trillion? Why?......

HMM lets see ........................

Financed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan on Americas credit card along with Bush tax cuts account for just about 50% of the deficit The stimulus law and short term financial rescues account for about 10 percent .

Our debt could be cut nearly in half by 2022 by simply letting Bush tax cuts expire of which 82% of the tax cuts go directly to Millionaires. 18% goes to all others.

The Govt is taking in less Tax Revenue , this along with the increased spending are the two factors that have combined to produce a deficit that is the highest since WWII. Corporations contributed only 8.9% in tax revenue in 2011.

If we misdiagnose the problem, we will never cure the disease.

Semper Fi

Just as we suspected its all  "BUSH'S FAULT"  16 trillion in debt, maybe upwards of 80 trillion with unfunded liabilities. Yep all Bush's fault. You radical right wing nuts should all know that by now, so us liberals can stop typing it out for you. 

[ChungDoQuan]

........ how exactly did we spend even one trillion? Why?......

HMM lets see ........................

Financed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan on Americas credit card along with Bush tax cuts account for just about 50% of the deficit The stimulus law and short term financial rescues account for about 10 percent .

Our debt could be cut nearly in half by 2022 by simply letting Bush tax cuts expire of which 82% of the tax cuts go directly to Millionaires. 18% goes to all others.

The Govt is taking in less Tax Revenue , this along with the increased spending are the two factors that have combined to produce a deficit that is the highest since WWII. Corporations contributed only 8.9% in tax revenue in 2011.

If we misdiagnose the problem, we will never cure the disease.

Semper Fi

Just as we suspected its all  "BUSH'S FAULT"  16 trillion in debt, maybe upwards of 80 trillion with unfunded liabilities. Yep all Bush's fault. You radical right wing nuts should all know that by now, so us liberals can stop typing it out for you. 

Word! 

[Ranger99]

i'm afraid things are way too far
gone to fix.
we'll have to crash and burn before
the decent folk can pick up the pieces
and make a nation again from the ashes.
too many apathetic people and entitlement
mindset leeches outnumber the doers and
the folks that pay the toll.
started when i was a kid or most likely before
with the concept of "do whatever the eff you
want to, regardless of consequence or whoever
gets hurt as long as your action makes you feel good"
and "as long as i get mine, i don't give a rusty ****
about anybody else"
took my elderly mother to the dollar store today
and while checkin out talked with an assist. manager. they're going
to close or move the store to a less crummy neighborhood
because they had $40,000.00 of theft this year so far,
including 2 crash&dash robberies. told of one last week
where the shoplifter had a zip lock bag in his jacket
pocket and poured whatever it was he stole out of the
container and into the bag. also told of the numerous
women who use their infant children in strollers
to "assist" them in the theft by taking clothing and
other items and tucking them up under the child in the
stroller. iv'e witnessed this before at megalomart, and
when i reported it they said there was nothing they could
do, and prosecuting shoplifters was bottom of their
totem pole.


way too much greed, apathy, jealousy, covetousness,
and dishonesty in this nation now to continue on
any other path other than the yawning chasm of failure.
hate to put it like that, but i don't see any other outcome.

[Anna]

Liberals don't want to fix anything, they want America to crash. Our problem is the Federal government, how elections are funded, and the Left.  Start prosecuting for Treason. Another thing one trillion is approximately 33,000 years worth of seconds, how exactly did we spend even one trillion? Why? I say seccede from the corruption. This is a bit better than anarchy but that is also an option.

If a State secedes the U.S.A. will require it to pay off its share of the national debt. I doubt it will accept I.O.U.'s. Do you have it?
Also remember that all of you States that get more from the Federal government than you pay in will not be getting it anymore. Everyone that works for the USA will be unemployed including military and military associated. For the landlocked States it might be a little difficult shipping things by sea or for that matter leaving home by air as that would require flying over USA airspace and I doubt it would be very eager to grant a route easement.

Wrong, Texas would be the key state. If you look at all those landlocked red states they all are around or above Texas on the map. Or some other southern state with year round deep water ports .
The north would suffer much more in your scenario, try to do your fly overs when the entire center
this country is then a separate entity. And we have the ICBM silos, so as they will say.
Go ahead and make my day !

So tell me , what does the east and NE or California offer us that we do not already have ?  Obama and that's about it.Other than an old and dilapidated industrial complex when we have the real black gold
that the rest of the world wants. What then will they have ? Debt , welfare, bums , and very cold weather. Made even worse when the south turns off the gas line, and the miners in Ohio and W Virginia stop sending coal. Both without the EPA screwing around with them anymore.
They got Obama, how much will he be worth ?

[lgm270]

Liberals don't want to fix anything, they want America to crash. Our problem is the Federal government, how elections are funded, and the Left.  Start prosecuting for Treason. Another thing one trillion is approximately 33,000 years worth of seconds, how exactly did we spend even one trillion? Why? I say seccede from the corruption. This is a bit better than anarchy but that is also an option.

If a State secedes the U.S.A. will require it to pay off its share of the national debt. I doubt it will accept I.O.U.'s. Do you have it?
Also remember that all of you States that get more from the Federal government than you pay in will not be getting it anymore. Everyone that works for the USA will be unemployed including military and military associated. For the landlocked States it might be a little difficult shipping things by sea or for that matter leaving home by air as that would require flying over USA airspace and I doubt it would be very eager to grant a route easement.

Wrong, Texas would be the key state. If you look at all those landlocked red states they all are around or above Texas on the map. Or some other southern state with year round deep water ports .
The north would suffer much more in your scenario, try to do your fly overs when the entire center
this country is then a separate entity. And we have the ICBM silos, so as they will say.
Go ahead and make my day !

So tell me , what does the east and NE or California offer us that we do not already have ?  Obama and that's about it.Other than an old and dilapidated industrial complex when we have the real black gold
that the rest of the world wants. What then will they have ? Debt , welfare, bums , and very cold weather. Made even worse when the south turns off the gas line, and the miners in Ohio and W Virginia stop sending coal. Both without the EPA screwing around with them anymore.
They got Obama, how much will he be worth ?

A good analysis.  You're right about Texas being a key state with its sea coast and deep water ports and its proximity to landlocked red states.  Go north from Texas and Okl., Kansas, Nebraska and the Dakotas are stacked like poker chips.   

California is doomed.  Too many browns have transformed it into a political subdiv. of Mexico, politically and culturally.  Illinois?  Forget it.   Actually I think a break up could some along county rather than state lines in some cases.  The white  majoirity rural counties of many states in the center of the country could simply pull out  of their states.  Why should the white majority rural counties of Illinois pay taxes to give welfare to minoritiy infested cities like Chicago?  No reason for it.  Just pull out, stop sending taxes to Springfield....and let the big cities crash, burn and starve. 

But Texas and the Red states named....add in Louisana and the states north of it.  A powerful strategically located country with energy, food manufacturing and a large white  (gunowning) conservative population. 

[Anna]

My point exactly, and I have named many other resources the south now owns in other post.
It doesn't take a West Point educated General to see this, so I can't see how anyone on the north or
NE can make any claims about their importance in a split up .
Money? In a split up including Alaska who do you think the rest of the world is going to make a bee line toward ? Obama ? I seriously doubt it !!     

[gypsyman]

Few things I might suggest. Tort reform. Higher import tax's on all stuff brought into this country, making them the same price as U.S. made products. Shut down the borders, and all illegals shipped back to whatever country they came from. All loans from the govt. for student loans eliminated, and foreign aid stopped. All politicians wages cut in half, and no retirement for them. Work done on roads,public buildings, any public property done by welfare people.(As long as it's not a job requiring a trade,electrician,plumber,etc.) Thats a start. gypsyman

[blind ear]

On a 30 year schedule, approximately a generation, make corporations pay the same capital gains tax rate that private families have to pay for inheritance taxes. Make the tax follow the corporate stock through and sales or buyouts that are done with that stock for the stocks per rata amount for the percentage value of the stock in it's current setting at the time for the first tax due date of the stock. After that the stock becomes homogeneous with the parent company stock
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When populations of cities reach a determined density set their rules of governance as separate and non comingled from rural populations with elected officials being separate. The laws of one population set not being able to effect or govern the other, separation of powers of states.
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[45-70.gov]

When populations of cities reach a determined density set their rules of governance as separate and non comingled from rural populations with elected officials being separate. The laws of one population set not being able to effect or govern the other, separation of powers of states.
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i don't know how you could do this ...but


but  it does seem the cess-pool  runs the countyside

[SHOOTALL]

Fix America ? hum, First kick out the ones running the republican party and get new leaders with a clue . Realize it took the democrats a long time to get the control they have it will take time to gety it away from them get elected officals to stand their ground but also have realistic goals . Start the reform at the local level that way you get voters on board from the bottom up not try to sway them in the 9 weeks before the election. You want a solid country be a solid party.
Abortion , tell the next president canidate to leave it alone , when the president and both houses are rep. then bring it up 

[Bugflipper]

Both sides point the finger at the other saying they are the problem. Both are actually right. The problem also lies in the sheep that blindly follow them and try to get their party in power to make a difference. No difference is made. The government takes away more rights. The politicians get richer. The masses are  fat and happy as long as they have their lattes and ipads.
My viewpoint, vote out everyone in office with a new non millionaire. No doubt the majority of them will be millionaires by the end of their term anyhow, but we allow it so why complain. Repeat this every election cycle and do away with the electoral college.


Now my suggestion for those interested in the current political system. When someone votes (or is going to) for the president you are opposed to them voting for: Don't be stupid enough to argue how ignorant they were (are) for doing so when neither vote mattered anyway. Perhaps the Continental Congress was right that the American populous was to ignorant to decide who the president was. People can't even figure out that the vote they cast for president does not determine the president.
 I get sick of hearing the same arguments over and over. Then when the people truly in power decide who they want your candidates to be, the people are right behind them like little lemmings a few weeks after they were bashing them for their viewpoints. The only reason being that they feel the need to support a party to continue to line the pockets of those who always look only to their personal interests and dictate what is best for those below them instead of serving them. I think the main illusion is that it can be fixed. Well at least fixed without the fall of the Nation. This has never happened in history. Nations that have started with good intentions historically divert further and further from that prospective until they fall. There has never been a solution to that problem because it is the nature of mankind.

[SharonAnne]

close the southern border.
end illegal immigration
ENGLISH ONLY LEGAL/GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS
end limitless time 'entitlements'
require efforts to find work or enrole in work oriented education to stay on welfare etc.
if you cannot read and write english, no citizenship
deport illegals

[SHOOTALL]

With the current economy deporting illegals might be an expense we can't afford . Consider low estimates say 12 million illegals are here but most feel it exceeds 25 million. What would it cost to round them up and deport them ? I would guess a thousand dollars average would be low . So if we take a middle figure at 18 mil. and do the math we are looking at $ 18000000000.00 . It might be better to make them legal workers and tax them at a higher rate than citizens . Allow them to become citizens who can speak english and pass other requirements . Then they would be supporting the system and not be a burden on the system. Of course the borders would need to be leak proof. And qoutas would need to be set as to how many per year could immigrate in. It would seem none for a few years due to the high number already here whos numbers would need to be spread out over future years  . Of course there would be exceptions for political issues, speical talents , etc.

[SHOOTALL]

I do feel there will be alot who will leave if forced to pay high taxes since their plan was to earn a bank roll and return home to live in comfort not make America their home.

[45-70.gov]

cut  off the food stamps and welfair


and amreicans will get out from the TV  and take back those jobs


some may ever go to mexico looking for work

[mcbammer]

With the current economy deporting illegals might be an expense we can't afford . Consider low estimates say 12 million illegals are here but most feel it exceeds 25 million. What would it cost to round them up and deport them ? I would guess a thousand dollars average would be low . So if we take a middle figure at 18 mil. and do the math we are looking at $ 18000000000.00 . It might be better to make them legal workers and tax them at a higher rate than citizens . Allow them to become citizens who can speak english and pass other requirements . Then they would be supporting the system and not be a burden on the system. Of course the borders would need to be leak proof. And qoutas would need to be set as to how many per year could immigrate in. It would seem none for a few years due to the high number already here whos numbers would need to be spread out over future years  . Of course there would be exceptions for political issues, speical talents , etc.

How   do  you  tax   a  people  that  get  paid   cash  and  wire  it  back  home?

[SHOOTALL]

Well if you go back and read what I wrote about making them legal workers . Btw most pay taxes and other govt. deductions now . many under false names so they never get it back now ( hum is that incentive for the feds to look the other way or what) .

[finisher]

Quote from lgm270:


If I comment any further I will probably be removed from this board as you should have been IMHO.
GuzziJohn

Why should advocating  equal rights for whites be grounds for removal from the board?

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I'll say this much (and it is some what in your favor); White people are not the only racists in the world. They come in all colors and ethnic backgrounds. You can have that.


So far, science has shown that every single biped above the primate level is of the same genetic origin thereby making every human being on this planet a member of ONE RACE. ONE! This is so regardless of skin color, or eye shape, or even body odor  .


But lets do a little definitive review from 'ol Websters:
RACISM n.1 belief or doctrine asserting racial differences in ones character, intelligence,etc.and the superiority of one race over another or others: racist doctrine also, typically, seeks to maintain the supposed purity of a race or races   2 any program of racial discrimination.segregation,etc.specifically., such a program or practice that upholds the political or economic domination of one race over another or others  3 feelings or actions of hatred and bigotry toward a person or persons because of their race---rac'-ist n.,adj.

Now on #1: The way I interpret the last part is that to even make any distinction between individuals as anything other than a HUMAN BEING or just a plain old PERSON can define you as being in a racist frame of mind, or at the least prejudice. What can I say    we all have our prejudices. Some rise above them, some don't. But for the most part, in this area you very narrowly dodge a bullet as a racist.


#2: Now here, I kinda of have to give it to you as I do agree that there has definitely been established over the years some double standards by the J. Jacksons and Al Sharptons of the world. However, I don't see where, in general, people with dark skin have "dominated" much of anything significant in this country other physical sports.


#3: Now on this one..., well, based upon much of your past rhetoric (as I've called out before) you truly define and hang yourself with your own rope. You openly make the distinctions and consider yourself white before anything else; not a person, not a human being but specifically WHITE. Fact is, by definition you and many of your remarks are just plain RACIST.But don't feel bad, I suspect you have quite a bit of silent company here.


I see you as hateful and racist, yes, but at least you don't try (too hard) to conceal what you are. And it is your right. I can respect that. But it doesn't change the fact that you are just as much of a hateful racist pig as Farakahn or Sharpton. And it doesn't seem as though you realize it. Or maybe you do and you just don't care.


Either way, this type of mindset is not a part of any solution (except for maybe "Adolf's" Final Solution) and it is as much a part of the problem as all the things about which moan and groan.


But go ahead and keep on pointing fingers and throwing hateful imaginary bullets at the "blacks" (or negroes as you stated in another post, what is this, the freakin' 1950's), or the browns, or whoever is different than you and your anglo "race" that is so divine, pristine, and free of any human wretchedness  ... if it makes you feel better about yourself.


On topic (although I'll probably be deleted anyway), if any of us want to fix anything; I say we start with fixing ourselves as individuals. Although I'm sure we're all aware of the folly of self diagnosis...or maybe not    Stop worrying about things over which we all have very little individual or even limited collective control and focus on what is within your direct span of control. It may not fix the nation, but it's the best place to start.


Another idea; instead of waging war on drugs, terrorism, homelessness, lets declare A FULL SCALE war on IGNORANCE. I don't know if that one is even winnable though.


Peace to you lgm. If I met you some where in LA, I'd probably offer to spring for lunch and cold ones but my pigmentation might not be light enough for you and you wouldn't even talk to me. Sad.