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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #90 on: December 14, 2012, 12:41:34 AM »
i see both your points


but when the GOVERNMENT sets  aside certain jobs


that pretty much EXCLUDE WHITE MEN......any discrimination  is wrong..
..ESPECIALLY WHEN GOVERNMENT DOES IT


i have worked on MANY of these ''MINORITY SET ASIDES''....the tax payers are the looses


finisher......i hope you think this is wrong too
you get to  florida  and i will buy the cold one  and set you strait.....lol
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #91 on: December 14, 2012, 02:16:23 AM »
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Over turn the tables of the money changers and kick their collective arses out of here....and
good people will be able to live their lifes in peace and happiness, and free from fear.
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #92 on: December 14, 2012, 07:12:10 AM »
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Over turn the tables of the money changers and kick their collective arses out of here....and
good people will be able to live their lifes in peace and happiness, and free from fear.
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..TM7

Yup! Good old fashioned Socialism......that'll do it fer sure 'n certain! ::)
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #93 on: December 14, 2012, 02:49:01 PM »
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What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
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Over turn the tables of the money changers and kick their collective arses out of here....and
good people will be able to live their lifes in peace and happiness, and free from fear.
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..TM7

Yup! Good old fashioned Socialism......that'll do it fer sure 'n certain! ::)
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #94 on: December 14, 2012, 03:10:38 PM »
i see both your points


but when the GOVERNMENT sets  aside certain jobs


that pretty much EXCLUDE WHITE MEN......any discrimination  is wrong..
..ESPECIALLY WHEN GOVERNMENT DOES IT


i have worked on MANY of these ''MINORITY SET ASIDES''....the tax payers are the looses


finisher......i hope you think this is wrong too
you get to  florida  and i will buy the cold one  and set you strait.....lol
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I do agree that this is wrong. It is Racism (wolf) disguised in the (sheeps) clothing of equality.
But I also get the same vibe of ugliness from anyone who preaches equality for anyone other than all HUMAN BEINGS/PEOPLE. By definition, to address any specific group in a racial or ethnic context is racism. The definition is what it is. If some are OK with that then they shouldn't get defensive when someone calls them on it. It is plain defined truth.


I realize that it is difficult for many(most), to examine their own mindset in regards to how they view themselves. I for one try to present myself as just another human being . My cultural and ethnic back ground is very diverse so I have no real identity, in a sense, if I were to chose "racial sides".


All I'm saying is equality for EVERYONE; without reference to skin color. Some here write as if they are the ONLY ones who have ever experienced prejudicial treatment. And I'll set this to everyone as "straight" as I can; until we start viewing everyone on this planet as simply "another human being", this kind of hateful BS will never end and this country will never be fixed while the powers that be can so easily pit PEOPLE against each other.


Thanks 45-70, one day I may just take you up on that cold one.

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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #95 on: December 14, 2012, 03:25:09 PM »
"First.....we hang all the lawyers!" 8)
i think we should make them sue each other. should be  fun to watch

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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #96 on: December 15, 2012, 05:46:20 PM »
Many of the posts listed here are things that need to be done to fix our country. However, none of these   things in and of themselves will be possible because of the divisiveness created by the political parties.  What needs to be done is what our founding fathers did when they couldn't agree on what should be in our Constitution.  They locked themselves in the meeting hall and prayed.  In 1962 the Supreme Court kicked God out of our schools and look where that has gotten us.  God has been more and more removed from our society till now He is a faint memory to many and many more don't even believe in Him.  Carnal man can in no way restore what this once great nation stood for till we are willing to stand for what our founding fathers stood for.  God can restore this country faster than you could ever imagine and He is the only one.  Blessed is the nation that calls the Lord their God.  I will honor them that honor Me.  If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will forgive their sin and heal their land.  I believe we havd a lot of humbling, praying and seeking to do.  It's our choice, He's waiting.  God bless you all.  Merry Christmas.
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #97 on: December 16, 2012, 03:14:13 AM »
Peshtigo71.  I think you hit the nail right on the head.  Since 1963 we have had the hippy movement, Vietnam, the drug culture, free sex, sexually transmitted disease, higher divorce rate, welfare state created, our industry going overseas.  Like the Bible says, knowledge shall increase, but never coming to a knowledge of the truth. 
 
In 1960 sexually transmitted disease was almost eliminated as well as most childhood disease.  35% of the American people worked in manufacturing.  85% of the American people had health care insurance.  Most American women stayed home to raise kids and be homemakers.  90% of kids under 18 were still virgin. 
 
When we kicked God out of schools and public prayer, He removed Himself from our public lives and the flood of sin and problems began.  Sure we had some issues to deal with like civil rights, but not much else other than external pressure from communism. 
 
Now we are a divided country.  We know what works, and what has worked in the past, but we can never get these things done without America allowing Freedom OF Religion again.  No one religion or denomination  was ever supported by the government.  It was all generic.  Generic prayers were always offered, from both Catholic and Protestants.  Even Jews who immigrated here didn't fight this.  Muslims were here back then in Dearborn.  I lived in Dearborn from 1959-62 and Muslims lived next door.  They didn't even file a lawsuit to stop public prayer in schools, ballgames or otherwise.  It was atheists.  Muslims, Christians, and Jews all three agreed on the 10 commandments, no problem there. 

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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #99 on: December 18, 2012, 07:04:28 AM »


Yup! Good old fashioned Socialism......that'll do it fer sure 'n certain! ::)
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Biblical reference wasted, huh?.. ::)

.....TM7


That's because you were mixing up your metaphors......THE TEMPLE was the location that Jesus had his little hissy fit in. In this case we are not talking about money transactions in a religious site. But you knew that, didn't you? You just wanted to make fun of those who didn't spot the difference. ::)
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #100 on: December 18, 2012, 07:49:03 AM »
Over turn the tables of the money changers and kick their collective arses out of here....and
good people will be able to live their lifes in peace and happiness, and free from fear.
..TM7
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Well, that's OK...lets go North and watch alittle video from a Banking Expert that explains the crux of the problem...
..TM7
Truly a Jeffersonian. I have no doubt whatsoever , this thoughtful , more tolerant , less prejudicial , more humanitarian younger generation will change the world.They have a way of breaking complex issues down into simple root causes and doing what is necessary (not ideological or politically expedient) to solve. My sisters kids amaze me in thir though processes as well.

From the mouth of babes as the saying goes. 
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #101 on: December 18, 2012, 08:00:55 AM »
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Biblical reference wasted, huh?.. ::)

.....TM7


That's because you were mixing up your metaphors......THE TEMPLE was the location that Jesus had his little hissy fit in. In this case we are not talking about money transactions in a religious site. But you knew that, didn't you? You just wanted to make fun of those who didn't spot the difference. ::)
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.Phew!... ???  and Jesus' hissy fit....sheezz... ::)  Cuts, you're not too good with metaphors or applying relativety_ _are you?....Today's money temples are found on Wall St.,,,,principly The Fed and Goldman Sachs......all bow and genuflect.......Tell you what, Cuts,,,,just forget about it!...OK...Let others listen to the Canadian Banking Expert. 
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Nice try! But no score......some of us still know the difference between a bank and a place of worship. YOU might worship in a bank, money being your god, but a lot of us don't.
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #102 on: December 18, 2012, 08:20:39 AM »
my short answer to fix america.... put a libertarian in office. bring the troops home for good and let these people wipe their own ass.. our troops, put them on our borders, in our schools, and shopping malls as well as airports and any public facility. notice i said "public"... legal conceal carry everywhere regardless of type of weapon. legalize/decriminalize marijuana and free up the courts and prisons so they can focus on making life miserable for real criminals that deserve punishment, because now we're going to kick some major ass opn all these pedophiles, rapists, murderers and other scumbags..... use the tax money from the legal marijuana to fund all this and in addition it will eliminate the a large % of illegal drug traffic coming in from mexico and other shithole countries that use this drug trade that we cant stop to fund their army's that fight against us.

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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #103 on: December 18, 2012, 08:23:16 AM »
and once akll that is done you can move "forward" and address the issue of the federal reserve, term limits, money in politics, and the assault on our constitutional rights. among other things

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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #104 on: December 18, 2012, 08:29:48 AM »
oh and when i say "kick some major ass on criminals" i mean, put their ass's to work. no free ride in prison. thye have to earn their keep. period. no exceptions. there are a million things that need to be done in every town usa...... same goes for welfare and unemplopyment... keep it available to those who deserve and need it, BUT they are going to WORK

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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #105 on: December 18, 2012, 10:35:03 AM »
I have an idea! Lets put more like people like TM7 And Cuts  in DC for leaders.They would be fighting among themselves so often, they wouldn't have time to legislate. ;) 
Seriously! Could you two stick to topic and quit trying to out do one another in your word games?
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #106 on: December 18, 2012, 10:48:23 AM »
scootrd:
thanks for the video. i watched that show with my father and both my father and i were very moved by Red's performance. i considered him as well as Bob Hope two of Americas great patriots. Sadly he is gone but a least he did not live to see the attemps to remove those words "Under God".

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« Reply #107 on: December 18, 2012, 11:11:31 AM »
I have an idea! Lets put more like people like TM7 And Cuts  in DC for leaders.They would be fighting among themselves so often, they wouldn't have time to legislate. ;) 
Seriously! Could you two stick to topic and quit trying to out do one another in your word games?

Hmm? He made a suggestion about what to do, I pointed out the fallacy/misnomers in his suggestions. That's called debate. Others have done the same.

Regarding your snide comments about us running for office, I'm sorry but I'm too honest and blunt to be in politics........and apparently for this board. At the risk of being "politically incorrect" I have a tendency to call a spade a spade.

As I've mentioned before, if you don't like me here, and/or my posts, just tell me to leave and I will.
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #108 on: December 18, 2012, 02:36:10 PM »
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What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
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Over turn the tables of the money changers and kick their collective arses out of here....and
good people will be able to live their lifes in peace and happiness, and free from fear.
.
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..TM7

Yup! Good old fashioned Socialism......that'll do it fer sure 'n certain! ::)
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I see were you're coming from Cuts but I think maybe you read just a little too much "religion" (too deeply) into TM's statement.
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #109 on: December 18, 2012, 02:54:05 PM »
I have an idea! Lets put more like people like TM7 And Cuts  in DC for leaders.They would be fighting among themselves so often, they wouldn't have time to legislate. ;) 
Seriously! Could you two stick to topic and quit trying to out do one another in your word games?

Hmm? He made a suggestion about what to do, I pointed out the fallacy/misnomers in his suggestions. That's called debate. Others have done the same.

Regarding your snide comments about us running for office, I'm sorry but I'm too honest and blunt to be in politics........and apparently for this board. At the risk of being "politically incorrect" I have a tendency to call a spade a spade.

As I've mentioned before, if you don't like me here, and/or my posts, just tell me to leave and I will.




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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #110 on: December 19, 2012, 04:35:15 AM »

s it. And as if corruption is only wrong if done in an official temple... ::) ...Jesus' point being it wasn't where the 'money changers' were doing their trade_ _it was what they were doing
......TM7

If you really believe that.....you have my pity.
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #111 on: December 19, 2012, 08:58:23 AM »
only allow people who pay taxes vote ! after that we can iron out the small stuff.  ;D
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #112 on: December 19, 2012, 09:52:18 AM »
.......and now TM is trying to put words in my mouth that I never implied or wrote.

Again...nice try. But trying to equate Christianity, or Christ, with socialism is not advancing your argument, and really should be beneath you. And frankly it doesn't belong in this thread.

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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #113 on: December 19, 2012, 10:13:31 AM »
Christ never taught socialism.  He just taught independent personal decisions in our hearts.  The early Christians in Jerusalem practiced socialism.  They almost starved to death.  Paul took up collections for them in Greece.  Jesus approved of one man's repentance who gave half his wealth to the poor, yet told another to sell all he had and the man went away sad.  Jesus saw where his heart was not anything to do with his wealth.  Actually in both old and new Testiments, capitalism is taught, but NOT GREED or covetousness. 
 
We are to enjoy the fruits of our labor.  We are to help the poor.  America has in the past been the most giving country in the world.  I don't think that is true any more since the government took over where charities once worked. 

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« Reply #114 on: December 21, 2012, 02:39:55 AM »
.......and now TM is trying to put words in my mouth that I never implied or wrote.

Again...nice try. But trying to equate Christianity, or Christ, with socialism is not advancing your argument, and really should be beneath you. And frankly it doesn't belong in this thread.

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Cuts_ _Those are direct quotes from you. I simply made a short quote about Jesus concerning corruption in the system being at he heart of the problem, which you label a hizzy fit. Then I posted a video from a Canadian banking expert stating same in more modern detail.  Just trying to understand your point of view given that you're skating on really thin ice.
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Mr. DD...imo, false syllogism.....capitalistc vs socialistic economic theory did not exist per sey in Jesus' time...there were little if any macro economist around.. ;) .  For most of recorded human history mankind existed in a colonialism and mercantilism system combined. Indeed, in thousands of years of primitive tribal existence most endeavors were on the socialistc side of the spectrum_ _i.e. collective survivalism.
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Thinking of economic systems as black and white; as in capitalism vs socialism is counter productive, tends to be contrived idealogical dogma depending on who is talking and benefitting. In reality various endeavors of man are probably best served by both theories depending on the endeavor....Such idealogical thinking is part of what is wrong with the system and protects corruption, imo. Capitalism and socialism are polar extremes in the spectrum of an economy and either can be made parasitic on society at large, which the Canadian banking expert explains above. i.e. privately held fractional resevre banking and debt schemes....correct this and the economy likely will recover.
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TM, yes those are direct quotes above in red just like those are your words.........doesn't prove anything. ::)

Meanwhile you consistently prove grandads rule.....to many words to try to prove your point. If it takes that many words it's most likely BS. Simple truths are better, always have been, always will be. When ya gotta jack yer jaw that much......it's highly suspect.
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Re: What Are Your Suggestions to Fix America?
« Reply #115 on: December 21, 2012, 08:53:15 AM »
Is this just a simple misunderstanding?  More specifically, do the two of you incorrectly believe that you continue to address topics and not each other?  Do you believe you are posting in a mature, adult, and family friendly way?  Have you failed to notice the numerous times you have been asked to take your little sniping fits to PM?
 
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